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Comment 05/31/14: How many of you have taken loans from your 401k in recent years to "catch up"? No raises...diminishing benefits...low, to no morale. Many of my co-workers, if not all of them - - have not gotten a raise in years. Cost of living continually rises yet IBM pay has remained stagnant. This place is a waste of time. But we all know that already. -Belt_axe-
Comment 05/31/14: Forbes Article - Why IBM is in Decline -ibmindecline-

Comment 05/30/14: IBM's Shelton said, "IBM's long-standing commitment to workforce diversity recognizes the contributions that all individuals make to IBM's success, regardless of age. At any given time, IBM has thousands of open positions in the U.S., many of them are entry level positions in our business' strategic growth areas." <=== alot of those jobs are bogus, or are intended for a specific person with no chances of any kind of competitive internal selection process. I had applied for an internal job before I was let go on 3/31, that was perfect for me. My mgr pressed the hiring manager and was told it was for someone else in the org. There's some IBM requirement that the job be posted, although the hiring manager has no intention of considering others... totally bogus process. BTW, I was contacted by a recruiting manager about a position I applied for outside of IBM. The person noted I had been with IBM for over 20 years and wondered why I wanted to leave. ha. Dude, I was laid off. -We don't buy that line-
Comment 05/29/14: "Suit says IBM targeted older workers for cuts" -- -anon-

Comment 05/29/14: "To _Anon_ and _Anonymous_, Why exactly would someone not want to disclose where they are going if you've given notice? " You should not freely disclose private information about yourself. You don't know when it will come back to bite you. Its one thing if you post on DICE when looking for a job but to post a running tab or your personal or professional life is just plain foolish. People who post to linkedin and facebook post content for free with which they make millions with paltry if any returns to you. At least make them pay for it. -The Network-
Comment 05/29/14: There has been a lot of discussion recently about IBM stock buybacks. Here's an article making the rounds about that:
This draws a straight line between buybacks and executive compensation, particularly options.
And, this: "During the 7-years ending in 2013 IBM booked about $100 billion in net income, and spent virtually every single penny on share buy backs." This is entirely criminal. There is an IBM bubble coming, and when it bursts, you'll know why. -Ben Dover-

Comment 05/29/14:
Three former IBM employees, all laid off last year, have filed a lawsuit in federal court alleging they were victims of age discrimination. -anon-

Comment 05/29/14: Lawsuit for layoff of IBMers. -Joe-

Comment 05/29/14: Lenovo is probably using IBM intellectual secrets to create it's own mainframe line. The Chinese bankers who are masters in currency manipulation and shadow banking and probably many politburo members too wouldn't want it any other way.
Never could trust a communist government and we just had Memorial Day to prove it. Obvious Big Blue doesn't mix with Red. Now watch for more IBM RAs in of all places: China. -anonymous-

Comment 05/29/14:
An employee who was laid off at IBM?s East Fishkill semiconductor plant in July has filed an age discrimination against the company.Before his termination, McCormack, who worked in coding, applied for at least 15 positions at the company, according to his lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in White Plains.
He didn't get any of the jobs. IBM managers and supervisors told him those positions had been targeted for "young persons" who had recently graduated from college, according to the lawsuit. McCormack, however, had recently graduated from college: In 2012, he received a degree in computer engineering.
Comment 05/29/14: Hmmm, with HP announcing that they are laying off more folks, it appears to be a two-way contest between two of the CEO's of the IT titans. Who will win the contest, Ginny or Meg. At least Meg is up front with the numbers. -Ginny Tookus-
Comment 05/28/14: The huge increases in pay for IBM CEOS started when Louie became CEO. He was the one who destroyed a great company with his greed and corruption. He has destroyed many IBM families with RAs. Sam and Ginni have followed. Those three have employment contracts, without a union all other IBMers are at will employees. IBM employees need a union to protect us from greed and corruption by the these three CEOs who stole our pensions, benefits, retirement and salaries so they could receive millions per year in perks private jets ect, stock options, and salary They and their families are will taken care of ON THE BACKS OF HARD WORKING IBMERS, while the rest of us worry about RAs every quarter. Join the union -ANA.-
Comment 05/28/14: Another nail in the SoftLayer coffin.
IBM: Can SoftLayer Save Their Cloud? Asks UBS; A Lou Gerstner Moment
UBS's Steve Millunovich today reiterated a Neutral rating on shares of IBM, which he believes faces something of a Lou Gerstner moment in its evolution, banking on the acquisition last year of startup Softlayer Technologies to help the company?s position in cloud computing.
Comment 05/28/14: IBM faces age bias suit. A former employee of IBM's semiconductor plant in East Fishkill filed a federal class-action lawsuit against Big Blue this month, claiming the multinational corporation laid him off because of his age..... -JustSaying-

Comment 05/28/14: Why do the actions of the Chinese government surprise anyone? IBM like many American corporations turned a blind eye to the fact that their proprietary information would not be safe. Confidentiality agreements or not it was known that Chinese employees owed their loyalty to the government not IBM and would provide the government whatever they wanted. Once the Chinese government got what it needed it could do away with IBM. Just think how much of this might have been avoided if IBM US employees had been unionized. While there is no guarantee this wouldn't have happened it would have been a lot less likely with the work being performed here with US employees. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 05/28/14: "It is important to not put where you work on LinkedIn" ... How did this board go from layoff rumors to absurd career advice? -Anon-
This is the hide under the desk mentality that has prevented organization at IBM. Even after leaving, people are scared of the Big Blue Monster. Better to hide under the desk or melt into the woodwork than risk anything that might sound like resistance . Sad indeed isn't it? -Exodus2007-

Comment 05/28/14: My buddy just got his third Transition to Retirement reminder, the deadline for his response is June 6. I wondered why I didn't get one since our age is similar and I have more years in IBM. It turns out that commission employees are not eligible. Anyone know why? I was really hoping for it to get off this sinking ship. Same reason that some folks didn't get their GDP bonus, despite Ginny saying she was giving it to "non-Executive PBC 1's" without qualifying it as non-commission only. More lies. --NoTransition--
Comment 05/28/14: To -also_in_RTP-. It's better to keep your integrity and respect and walk out rather than cave into their abusive pressure. If you're already on the way out, I doubt the 2weeks pay would make up for the horrible feeling you may have with disclosing where you're going. I knew I would feel like $#!+ if I caved in so I didn't and feel so much better now. -sad_in_RTP-
Comment 05/28/14: -OuttaThere- you did the right thing taking your whole FSA! Good for you to look after yourself other than give any credit to the Big Blue Pig! Remember take care of #1 and don't step in #2 (IBM)! -IdiotsBecomeManagement-
Comment 05/28/14: "China Orders Banks To Remove High-End IBM Servers"
Chinese government is still communist and we lost thousands of lives and had thousands of wounded we just memorialized this weekend. Once Lenovo gets into high end servers then as Paul Harvey used to say "you now know the rest of the story".
Comment 05/27/14: The CEO Got a Huge Raise. You Didn't. Here's Why.
Pay for globe-trotting CEOs has soared to new heights, even as most workers remain grounded by paychecks that are barely budging. While pay for the typical CEO of a company in the Standard & Poor's 500 stock index surged 8.8 percent last year to $10.5 million, it rose a scant 1.3 percent for U.S. workers as a whole. That CEO now earns 257 times the national average, up from a multiple of 181 in 2009, according to an analysis by The Associated Press and Equilar.
Those figures help reveal a widening gap between the ultra-wealthy and ordinary workers around the world. That gap has fed concerns about economic security - everywhere from large cities where rents are high to small towns where jobs are scarce. Here are five reasons why CEOs are enjoying lavish pay increases and five reasons many people are stuck with stagnant incomes. -Anon-

Comment 05/27/14: China Orders Banks To Remove High-End IBM Servers -anon-
Comment 05/27/14: Not the kind of headlines that you want:
The Chinese government is reviewing whether domestic banks' reliance on high-end servers from International Business Machines Corp.
(IBM:US) compromises the nation's financial security, people familiar with the matter said -NoMorale-

Comment 05/27/14: Re: "There have been two instances I'm aware of where management threatened to walk the employee our the door if they didn't disclose where they were going."
Who cares? If you give notice, and they walk you out early they're only hurting themselves. Hell, I think I'd call their bluff if they threatened that.. I'm glad I left in 2012 on my own accord.
Comment 05/27/14: More trouble for Ginni in China.... -anon-

Comment 05/27/14: "It is important to not put where you work on LinkedIn" ... How did this board go from layoff rumors to absurd career advice? -Anon-
Comment 05/27/14: China kicking IBM when it's down.
China ponders ban on IBM servers
The dispute between China and the USA over backdoor-riddled information technology equipment has just heated up, with Bloomberg reporting Chinese authorities are wondering whether the time has come for local banks to ditch their IBM servers. The newswire's report mentions "high-end" servers and suggests Chinese authorities 'are reviewing whether Chinese commercial banks' reliance on the IBM servers compromises the country's financial security.Might China therefore be taking aim at an American icon? IBM's hardware division is not in rude health. Even the mere suggestion Big Blue is in cahoots with US authorities won't make it any easier to shift boxes, making life harder for IBM at a time it needs to be fighting off spookware allegations like it needs a hole in the head.
Comment 05/27/14: To _Anon_ and _Anonymous_, Why exactly would someone not want to disclose where they are going if you've given notice? You are already quitting. If they ask you to leave that day, who cares... it relieves you of having to work out 2 additional weeks. I was happy to tell my old manager and friends where I was going... letting them see that there are other places to work. Also, you are advising not to put where you work on LinkedIn.... that is a big mistake as I've known a lot of people to get jobs through networking on LinkedIn, and it helped me. Again, why the secrecy as to where you are going... if you are quitting, who cares what IBM knows about you??? -Gonein2013-
Comment 05/27/14: Everyone, and I mean everyone who reads this forum should join Alliance. You're here, so you must recognize some value in it. Nothing will change until enough people join. It's only $15 a month for full membership. Fifty cents a day? Who cannot afford that? -Anonymous-
Comment 05/27/14: -IdiotsBecomeManagement-: Oops, I meant FSA, not HSA! And as I'm sure you know (since you caught the error re HSA), there is no legal way IBM can come after an employee for using their entire FSA amount for a calendar year, even if they leave before the end of the year, if there are enough qualified medical expenses while employed. -OuttaThere-
Comment 05/26/14: @I'veBeenMowed - being knighted is not royalty. Not even close. But I agree with everything else. -Anon-
Comment 05/26/14: IBM selling the VT plant will destroy the economy of Vermont. I lived in Endicott and I saw how Lou Gerstner destroyed Endicott and the surrounding areas economy. Real Estate plummeted, car sales plummeted, revenue down in restaurants bankruptcies increased, and IBM families destroyed. In less than two decades IBM went from employing 10000 IBMers in Endicott, to today approximate 700. Its all about greedy and corrupt CEOS. Join the union -ANA-
Comment 05/25/14: "also used up my entire HSA for the year, although I had only paid into it for a month. :-)"
Be forewarned IBM will likely come after you for HSA reimbursement. It might take time since the elephant is slow but it will happen unfortunately for you. Every last $.001 to make the IBM executives filthier rich and to get to that magic 2015 EPS. -IdiotsBecomeManagement-

Comment 05/25/14: "CEOs greed and corruption have destroyed this once great company"
Sir (he was knighted in the UK so he is officially royalty) Louis Gerstner II perfected that poison pill. Just like large Corporations are just like our USA Government: greed, corruption, and a willingness to do nothing (except for their very selves) of any real, substantive value for the majority of the people. Labor Day will probably mean more in this country in a few years with the systematic death of the middle class that made this country what it was.
We can call it Labor Memorial Day but the 1ers% will make it law to call it End of Summer Vacation Day (to ONLY be observed by the top 1% and NO EXCEPTIONS. For everyone else it is observed as a Monday 12+ hour workday).
Comment 05/25/14: -sad_in_RTP-: Yes, of course do not disclose what company you'll be joining when you quit IBM!! Is this even a question?? This should really be common sense guys... There is absolutely no reason to mention ANYTHING about your plans after you leave IBM. Who says you're going anywhere. When you quit IBM, all you're announcing is your resignation from IBM; it's up to you when you want to announce anything further, which should be well after you have any involvement with IBM.
"For those of you leaving IBM. Do not disclose where you're going, they'll try to pressure you to find out but hold your ground. There have been two instances I'm aware of where management threatened to walk the employee our the door if they didn't disclose where they were going. Hold your ground, it's your right to privacy."
Comment 05/25/14: To -sad_in_RTP-: When I left IBM last year, I gave two weeks notice but did not say where I was going. When pressed on that by my manager, I told him I was going to an IBM Partner. And that was true. It was also true that I was going to a major competitor of IBM's, but IBM does the "coopetition" with the best of them. Before I left, I used all of my floating holidays for the year (I left in January) and also used up my entire HSA for the year, although I had only paid into it for a month. :-) -OuttaThere-
Comment 05/25/14: @sad_in_RTP: I agree with standing firm on keeping your new employer as private info, but isn't IBM allowed to walk you out the door anyway? I'm getting close to this event myself. -also_in_RTP-
Comment 05/24/14: -sad_in_RTP- BTW, I was RAed in the "big one" in 2009. I got information that IBM's Wellness Assistance Program was no longer covering Wellness office visits after my RA so my name was still on file and was still in IBM's Wellness Program database. Since I am no longer an employee of IBM and no longer will get ANY retirement health benefits; I asked to be taken off the IBM Wellness Assistance Program list since it none of IBM's business to know now. So now IBM knows my post-IBM Wellness issues like mental health and chiropractic services since it was billed incorrectly to IBM as late as early 2012. It made me wonder whether IBM has a "dead peasant's life insurance" policy on me! IBM no longer respect's employees or ex-employees privacy. IBM will do whatever they can and say it is to "stay competitive" and if that means finding out about it's (ex)resources whereabouts, happenings, issues, etc. IBM will do it. -BigBlueBrother-
Comment 05/24/14: Globalfoundries does not want Burlington. Its a dinosaur. They would be better off tearing it all down and using the land for another 400,000 $ housing project for all those IBMers that will lose there jobs. The writing is on the wall people. Get out of Chittenden county before your property value drops 50% -Glad 2b gone-
Comment 05/24/14: To -barely remember the place-, I worked in Endicott Building 18 for several years. There were 12000 IBM employees.I Was RA when Lou became CEO. Working now for another fantastic company. Visited Endicott last Month. Once home of IBM is now just a shell of this once great company. EFK is going the way of Endicott IBM. Those days are gone for ever, CEOs greed and corruption have destroyed this once great company and its IBM families. Join the union -ANA-
Comment 05/24/14: New numbers show what's at stake if IBM sells Vt. plant.
News that IBM may sell its chipmaking operations, including the Essex Junction plant, prompted the GBIC to dig deep into Big Blue's economic impact in Vermont.
"IBM has been an incredible economic contributor," Cioffi said. GBIC estimates IBM employs about 4,000 people in Vermont. Its study shows that 10,000 families are directly or indirectly supported by IBM. The analysis reveals the plant injects $1 billion into the overall Vermont economy. Losing that, says Cioffi, would set Vermont's economy into a tailspin. "No economy could sustain the loss of 4,000 jobs," Cioffi said. "It would be catastrophic. It would shock us into a real estate recession and an economic recession worse than the one we are trying to get out of now." -VTAnon-

Comment 05/24/14: For those of you leaving IBM. Do not disclose where you're going, they'll try to pressure you to find out but hold your ground. There have been two instances I'm aware of where management threatened to walk the employee our the door if they didn't disclose where they were going. Hold your ground, it's your right to privacy. -sad_in_RTP-
Comment 05/24/14: I finally quit IBM in January after 8 years. However for 4 of those years I was on mobilization orders with the US Army - some stateside & some deployed overseas.
IBM was kind enough to offer a pay differential - the difference between my salary & my military base pay. Once I came back from my deployment to Afghanistan, IBM (in it's infinite wisdom) decided that I owed them over $38k in overpayments. Of course they are hopelessly wrong but will they admit that? Nope! Will they come to the table and discuss it? Nope!
I am giving them one more chance to recognize their mistakes on a phone call. After that I just may have to approach the media as well as my military employer representative to put additional outside pressure on them.
Just sick & wrong of IBM to err this boldly while a servicemember is called to active duty! -Screwed_over_Soldier-
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Comment 05/23/14: I found a very eye-opening graphic listing the top 5 feeder schools for several prominent American companies. Notice anything odd about IBM?

Comment 05/23/14: IBM screws its own vendors, customers.
IBM Stops Selling NetApp Units to Favor Own Storage Devices IBM will stop buying and reselling storage technology from NetApp Inc. as part of a plan to move customers to its own products.
IBM plans to formally withdraw from selling NetApp?s new N series systems on May 27 and shut down development on the product line, according to an internal memo reviewed by Bloomberg. Instead, the company will encourage clients to buy IBM-made offerings, the memo said.
IBM, seeking to reinvigorate slumping hardware sales, has shifted its focus to newer technologies and product upgrades. The move is poised to be a setback for NetApp, which gets about 2 percent of its revenue from IBM, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. While NetApp has said that its IBM relationship has presented challenges, it hasn't disclosed the reselling shutdown. -Nony-
Comment 05/23/14: Interesting article about IBM corruption. Rank and file are forced to take BCG training instead of actual job training. Job training today is non-existent. Time wasted on BCG training and other nonsense. I suppose executives are exempt from BCG rules. -anon-
Comment 05/23/14: To -I'mLeaving- not worry they will make you work right to the last minute. I recently quit and they worked me right up to end of notice. Also they harassed me about a laptop that I had returned 4 years previously and that started on second to last day. The final bit of harassment was no final payslip so you have to guess if they agree with what vacation pay etc that you are owed. I had to search for a HR phone number. When I called about payslip and record of employment the IBM rep was less than courteous.You will be treated as "nicely" as you are now right to the bitter end. Just makes the company I am at now look that much better. I have gotten more perks in a month than I got in 10 years at IBM. -former canuck ibmer-
Comment 05/23/14: @SalesYouAreOuttaHere, Interesting. I wonder how Mills and LeBlanc take into consideration the ongoing crisis meetings because of product quality, product delivery slippage, inability to deliver Level 2 service because the technical skills required have been RA'd or leaving on their own. Are they so clueless? remote? or just acting as if nothing is wrong? -Anon-
Comment 05/23/14: To -SlimPickens-, Maybe GPS customers have gotten fed up with IBM doing unto them as IBM does to itself (GBS / IGA)? As a former colleague once said with apologies to Ford, "IGS, Quality is job None". -anonymous-
Comment 05/23/14: A bit of history: Sammy went to an all women IBM recruiting drive determined to get a job at IBM so he could avoid the USA draft for Vietnam. He got the job in IBM and avoided the draft. That should tell you something about eroding IBM "leadership" this Memorial Day. Remember and Thank ALL Veterans that answered the call and did their duty instead of trying to get out of it to pursue their own dreams and aims. -anonymous-
Alliance reply: History can sting any American that has marketed themselves as "special" to the patriotic American dream. Patriotism and loyalty to America has especially been hijacked by corporate executives (and even presidents) in the past decades, as a method to "own" for their personal gain. America is an 'empire' run by corporate interests that use the government to and for their own ends.
Sam Palmisano is not the first "self-appointed, important person" to skip doing their REAL duty to their country, and he won't ever be the last. The best advice here is to ignore his past and every other one like him, and choose to be your own leader or lead with your co-workers and organize. You'll still be able to appreciate and thank all the veterans for their service and, if you are a veteran, be proud of your service to your country and to your co-workers. You are the union, and you and your co-workers are the part of IBM that makes the company what it is. You always have been. You are also the part that makes America what it is. Real.

Comment 05/23/14: Whenever I read about some Wall Street analyst casting doubts on IBM's ability to survive or another analyst criticizing the strategies being followed by IBM executives, I get a perverse feeling of joy. This would be understandable if I were a competitor but I AM A CURRENT IBM EMPLOYEE! I hope I am alone in feeling this way. If not, what does that say about IBM when its OWN employees agree more with its detractors than its executives? -ReportReader-
Comment 05/23/14: -I'mLeaving - It all depends but there's no obligation to give them ANY notice, at least here in the land of the free. Whether you do or not is up to you. They may take the two weeks, they may show you the door. I think it depends on where you are going to. If a major competitor or you refuse to say (and there's nothing says you have to tell them) then they may well show you the door. If a smaller or non competing company then they may accept the two weeks. I've seen both situations. Either way, good luck in the future. -I'm Free-
Comment 05/23/14: I held out for what I'm worth after being shown the door last summer, now working in a fantastic environment. The futility of trying to champion innovation in a shrine to cluelessness is a distant memory. So sad to hear of the demise of EFK, where I joined IBM in an extremely cold stretch of winter in early 1985, my first two weeks in a hotel near the corner of 52 and 376. Fishkill was some 15,000 employees strong. I worked in the 300 Building, seemingly a city unto itself. Surely the construction of the 600 complex signaled guaranteed employment for longer than I could possibly live. But slowly it all slipped away, one incompetent clown promoted into management after another. A decade later, process and obedience trumped innovation and respect, the writing dripping off the walls. Another decade and those of us with half a brain stood like deer in headlights, in a perpetual state of not sure whether to laugh or to cry. Goodbye, blue-blooded dream of an IBM of those days! -barely remember the place-
Comment 05/23/14: Summers, Nick. "The Trouble With IBM". Business Week, May 22, 2014.

Business Week article discusses problems with Roadmap 2015. -Gorya-

Comment 05/23/14: If you have to try to sell of the blood (the chips) to Global Foundries "GF" what makes up the heart (the mainframe) of a big computing based company that IBM is not organically sound. This doesn't sound healthy going forward as a mainframe company which IBM still essentially is. The mainframe is what makes IBM unique no matter how IBM wants to portray itself as as a services company which it is failing at. -anonymous-
Comment 05/23/14: Trust your gut instinct guys and good luck, my instinct still tells me IBM does not have a bright future. The IBM India Bharti Airtel subcontracting fraud is shocking, highlights again the greed and ethics right at the very top.
"You can have tons of talent, but it won't necessarily keep you fed. If you have sharp instincts, through, you'll never go hungry. Haruki Murakami, 1Q84 All the best to all." -RAed 2012 aged 41-

Comment 05/22/14: Folks. The IBM that Ginni, Sammy and Lou operate in is totally different than the one you cling to your miserable jobs in. For one they ALL have contracts that define their pay, benefits and severance packages if they are terminated. Second, no one can RA them. There is no reports to chain for them. Just the board of directors who they have preloaded with their own people to ensure they stay in power. Just like the *gerrymandering* most politicians do to stay in power. Why do you waste time second guessing each other about which way IBM is going to screw you next and secretly hope the company goes bankrupt for making you miserable. Put that time and effort into organizing. Then you will actually get something for your efforts besides frustrated. This Memorial day remember the Veterans and others who gave their lives for your freedom. Don't waste their efforts. -Exodus2007-
Comment 05/22/14:
IBM CEO Ginni Rometty Is A Year Away From Delivering On A Plan That Has Tied Her Hands For Years
In Palmisano's time, enterprises were curious but distrustful of cloud computing. They didn't think it was as safe and reliable as doing IT themselves. And back then, it wasn't.
Palmisano all but dismissed cloud computing during IBM's investor's day in 2010, saying, "Enterprise will have its own unique model. You can't do what we're doing in a cloud."
Flash forward to 2014 and cloud computing tech has matured, the risks are lower and there are options for running every kind of software in the cloud, including Oracle databases and SAP financial software. It's not clear why Rometty has stuck with the promise rather than go her own way. Given IBM's culture, and the long history of this promise, it isn't easy for her to ditch it. And now, one year away, she's determined to fulfill it.
Comment 05/22/14: Not a positive outlook from this analyst.
"Whether IBM CEO Rometty recognizes it or not, the real cloud, the one that really matters - the one that most of the world's compute function will eventually run on is this: multi-tenant public cloud. In this all-important market, IBM is not a player."
...... -RAtired-
Comment 05/22/14: The only thing inspiring thing about Sammy was he knew how to lie to the IBM community. Sammy, Louie, and now Ginny are great liars to Wall Street and the IBM employees. What IBM needs is a union to stop this greed and corruption by these three CEOs. Join the union. -Stop the Lying and Deceit-
Comment 05/22/14: Spot on article, cudos to Businessweek, Wall St. about had enough... -misty-

Comment 05/22/14: Just watched a new mandatory internal Steve Mills video that kept emphasizing (quoted ver batim) "one of the things that I've been pressing Bob on quite a bit is the idea that our technical people can effectively provide much of the coverage that our sales specialists are called upon to provide". He said we don't have to keep going in"two by two" with a sales and technical person, we need to get down to a "one" model (as if we don't always go in there with the "IBM Clown Car" of more like 12). Sounds like a major cut is looming in the area of sales. Resonates with what was said earlier about them wanting to fire mass sales people immediately around impact (folks who haven't made their numbers). I'm technical, don't know how that would work since many of us just don't have the polish that sales folks do. He said he wanted tech folks to start dedicating one day a week to call on accounts that have no IBM stuff currently. -SalesYouAreOuttaHere-
Comment 05/22/14: At long last I have found another opportunity away from IBM. The last round of cuts was a signal that IBM is no longer interested in the HW business. Anyone know if when I give my 2 weeks notice whether they will show me the door immediately or have me finish it out? I am Technical Sales specialist so my assumption is they won't want me involved in anything once they know I intend to leave. -I'mLeaving-
Comment 05/22/14: Does IBM CEO Rometty Understand Cloud?
IBM seems to be trying to redefine everything that SoftLayer does as cloud, although SoftLayer's business is almost all dedicated hosting (bare metal, sold month-to-month), not cloud IaaS in the usual sense of the word. There's abundant confusion as a result. Whether IBM CEO Rometty recognizes it or not, the real cloud, the one that really matters - the one that most of the world's compute function will eventually run on is this: multi-tenant public cloud. In this all-important market, IBM is not a player. -anon-

Comment 05/22/14: Another damning article on IBM (Ginni) "The Trouble With IBM" From Bloomberg BusinessWeek. -anon-

Comment 05/22/14: Worth the read: -miss_understanding-

Comment 05/22/14: IBM announced that on July 1st 2014 Global Process Services (GPS) will integrate with Global Business Services (GBS) group. Expect lots of reorganizational synergies and redundancies (ie. RA's). -SlimPickens-
Comment 05/22/14: Speaking of Lenovo.
Lenovo CEO hopes U.S.-China cyber-theft case will not affect IBM, Motorola deal approval
Comment 05/22/14: Harvard Business Review just came out wtih an interesting set of articles. One of those articles,
"The Price of Wall Street's Power" and "Managing Investors," which is an uninspiring interview with Sam Palmisano. He explains why IBM should have such high earnings per share. Frankly, it wasn't convincing. Maybe it makes sense when the company has lots of spare cash, but cannibalizing oneself to meet unreasonable targets is a very different rationale. Plus, it is hard to see how high end semiconductor development can fall into the commodity category. If that was the case, IBM should be able to find a buyer for the microelectronics business. -coupon-

Comment 05/21/14: Word on the street in Essex (BTV) is that FAB sale will be in July to GF. -Vermont Woodchuck-
Comment 05/21/14: A little food for thought for my 7,499 soon to be "Red" colleagues, from people who have already been there and done that.
"At the risk of sounding xenophobic, Lenovo is a Chinese company and every year more and more of the U.S. based functions (and jobs) are shifted to China. If you are seeking a role at Lenovo outside of China it would be best to land a Geography specific role, but also realize this will limit career growth."
"A few years ago, I would've said this was the best place to work. Now, there is too much uncertainty and too much change (without a clear change management process in place). 2 rounds of layoffs this year (2013) with rumors of more at the beginning of the year. People are jumping ship. There is only a retention plan for Executives, nothing for managers or individual contributors. No career advancement - they would rather hire externally to quickly fill a gap." There's more where that came from, visit if you're not high on the Kool-Aid.
Comment 05/21/14: For those IBMers headed to Lenovo on or about Aug. 1 as part of the x86/Pure Flex divestiture, here's some encouraging news:
Imagine that -- a tech company that grows revenue. For the record, growth is not just in China but globally. -x86 in RTP-

Comment 05/21/14: A classic quote by one of our major shareholders, Mr, Warren Buffet; this is a classic:
"I try to buy stock in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will". -Warren Buffet, Source: At a panel discussion after the premier of the documentary "I.O.U.S.A" (2008) -sittingandwaiting-

Comment 05/21/14: Don't Expect Another Earnings-Per-Share Target From IBM.
Comment 05/21/14: @thisisoneway - do you even understand the IBM NZ fiscal calendar? This just adds yet another negative, uninformed and non-productive post to this page. Alliance, please do a better job filtering these -anonymous-
Comment 05/21/14: I was a dues paying member of the Alliance. I paid because it provides tremendous value and insight into an environment where managers exploit employees at _ALL_ levels. I've moved to a new employer, and it's a shame how one discovers that respect, compensation, and benefits are much better on the outside. I encourage all of you to interview and apply elsewhere. You owe it to yourself, your family, and your career. Best of luck to all those who remain behind and ignore the warnings. -Me-
Comment 05/20/14: There is zero chance of this company turning around with the amount of unhappy people in the company. It just is not enough to say "you are lucky enough to have a job". Works in the third world, not the first world. - Anon-
Comment 05/20/14: email sent 15 May:
"-Hi Team - further to Andrew Stevens email 2 April 'Our growth initiative enablement roadmap', the call to action is for each IBMer to make a fast start and dedicate 10 hours of Think40 in 1Q (before June 30th) to this new curriculum."
That is one way to meet Qtrly targets - re-define the calendar :-) - this is one way -

Comment 05/20/14: "IBM is asking for 250 people to take a bus every Monday to GF from EF."
And the employees will be paying for the commutation. And it will be a bus with a bad heater core or no A/C and they'll feel every pothole and bump past the Albany politico cesspool that made this all possible.
Comment 05/19/14: IBM buys startup to give Watson "depth of personality" IBM has bought Cognea, a startup developing virtual assistants that interact with users via A.I.-based personalities. Terms are undisclosed.
Big Blue plans to integrate Cognea's technology with its Watson A.I. hardware/software, with the goal of allowing Watson to deliver "conversational services." Potential end-markets mentioned by the company include "virtual personal assistants, health coaches, companions for elderly people, investment advisors, tutors, travel agents, customer care agents and shopping advisors."
IBM, hungry to halt double-digit server revenue declines, promised to invest over $1B in Watson in January, including $100M in startups working on software/services for Watson systems. But while the company is hoping Watson produces $10B/year in revenue in ten years, the platform had only produced $100M in revenue as of last October. -Anon-

Comment 05/19/14: Saw this on this website. I wondered whether any IBMers had ever been subjected to this kind of pressure from their management? "What Happened In The Basement?" -BlueEyedBlindness-

Comment 05/19/14: IBMers to work for GlobalFoundries: Prelude to a sale? -Nonymous-
Comment 05/19/14: For those of you contemplating or chosen to work in the GF Malta plant, you will be right at home as though it were IBM EF itself. Read the Glassdoor reviews on GF especially those specific to Malta. Don't expect things to get better, but continue to expect more lousy treatment. Wow, I am so glad I'm not in the technology industry anymore. I can't imagine how many of you sleep well at night wondering when the ax will fall. -*Glad_to_be_Gone_too*-
Comment 05/19/14: IBM is asking for 250 people to take a bus every Monday to GF from EF. Work all week and return Friday, for 10 months! All just to get the tax break from the state. Talk about a "work-life" balance plan. I hope all the EF people have the guts to say NO to this crap. -anon-
Comment 05/19/14: This statement from Ginni is disturbing and disheartening -
"If you are uncomfortable with what's going on now in IBM, that's how I want you to stay."
This is not how you motivate people. It reminds me of what John Akers said in his desperate last months,
"I don't want to see people standing around the water cooler."
You know what, Ginni, I'd like to provide value to the IBM company, but you won't let me. You're too busy moving work overseas where you can threaten and abuse employees without constraints. So, you say if I'm not working on cloud, data, or engagement, I'm working on the wrong things? Well, please help me work on the right things me by making it easier to transfer out of this cesspool of GBS IGA despair. -Anon-

Comment 05/19/14:
IBM Shows Robust Growth In Cloud: Does It Matter?
IBM continues to show strong growth in cloud revenues after spending billions on developing its cloud offerings.
However, the company has a lot of work to do before this starts having any impact on its top line growth.
IBM has touted two major cloud deals, but these might not have any meaningful impact on the growth of its cloud revenues.
Comment 05/19/14: "With every news story that comes out of India and Central and West Africa, what sort of company have we become when the CEO thinks that we can depend on them to pull us around."
The strategy is smart when you consider what is happening there is a 20-year view. Central/West Africa corporations on Cloud is a sweet spot for this type of GEO. The results are disruptive for sure. The delivery approach IBM is taking is horrible. The organization change is infantile.
Comment 05/18/14: IBM EFK: Going, Going.... soon gone. Sad. Very Sad. Way to not go IBM.Big Blew. Big Blow.-Dutchess_distressed-
Comment 05/17/14: GF will probably just use the BTV and EFK sites to store toxic waste that they can't get away with dumping in Malta. -Anonymous-
Comment 05/17/14: The one paragraph in todays Poughkeepsie Journal that is all you need to know:
"IBM is going to be using GlobalFoundries in Malta as a foundry going forward," said G. Dan Hutcheson of VLSI Research in San Jose, Calif.,
"and the Fishkill facility is getting long in the tooth. It's now become a fairly old fab. Fabs don't last forever. They do begin to age."
The East Fishkill site is toast. All work going to GF in Malta. GF not taking East Fishkill. -The End is near-

Comment 05/17/14: With every news story that comes out of India and Central and West Africa, what sort of company have we become when the CEO thinks that we can depend on them to pull us around. It is a desperate, last roll of the dice, attemtp to save herself. Thankfully Wall Street is as tired of her rhetoric as are the rest of us. -Anon-
Comment 05/17/14: Boeing conducted unfair practices against U.S. engineers says NLRB: -Alwyn Scott-

Comment 05/17/14: Why You Don't Want to Own IBM:
"In the case of IBM, looking beyond the short-term trees at the long-term forest should give investors little faith in the CEO or the company's future growth prospects. Much is being hidden in the morass of financial machinations surrounding acquisitions, divestitures, debt assumption and stock buybacks. Meanwhile, revenues are declining, and investments in R&D are falling. This cannot bode well for the company's long-term investor prospects, regardless of the well scripted talking points offered last week."
-Adam Hartung-

Comment 05/16/14:
WICCOPEE - About 150 to 200 IBM technical employees based at the semiconductor plant here will be dispatched to work at a partner company, GlobalFoundries, at its growing plant in Saratoga County, the Poughkeepsie Journal has exclusively learned. -Anon-

Comment 05/16/14: -Old Farts- Yep, but why is she so bitter or may I say disgruntled? She might be part of the old club, but she gets full retirement medical for life, executive pension, 401(k), bonuses, top hat SERP, office for life, travel for life, etc. etc. all paid for by IBM mostly as unfunded benefits. We other old farts don't get a smidgen of that. Maybe she is truly DISTRACTED by lack of revenue growth? LOL! -IrritableBowelMovement-
Comment 05/16/14: "If you are uncomfortable with what's going on now in IBM, that's how I want you to stay." Is Ginni crazy or just heartless? This is what a slave owner used to say to their property. -anonymous-
Comment 05/16/14: CEO's lying to themselves. Does this sound familiar? -Anonymous-

Comment 05/15/14: ANA: She had a very hostile attitude and was very very bitter toward older IBMers. <=== Why was she bitter towards older IBMers? Since she is 56 yrs old, she's part of the club. what's she complaining about? -Old Farts-
Comment 05/15/14: Can an Employee Accept a Severance Payment and Still File a Discrimination Claim? -David Barron-

Comment 05/15/14: Former IBM'er here - regarding CLAIM, I also remember getting strange emails about hours being claimed in my name on projects and clients where I did absolutely no work. I didn't claim the hours myself I just got notified of these claims. I then asked my boss about it and he gave me some strange explanation that "these are just maintenance hours to a customer, don't worry about that" or something like that. I always thought it was strange but I have no proof that anything was wrong.
On the other hand, I know that for a month or so they charged a client as if I was working full time on the account when I was working only half-time, but that was to cover up the fact I was only working half-time since I had been assigned to a different account also and things were so political and tense it was impossible to back out of either engagement. Of course I got no overtime despite doing twice the work! -Anon-

Comment 05/15/14: Another IBM botch up: Don't blame SAP, blame npower and particularly IBM Global Services.
They must hold the record for the most botched implementations in the industry. SAP works. Yes, it can be clunky and awkward at times, but it does work. In the hands of a good implementation team and the proper support, SAP can sing like a bird. There used to be a saying that 'no one ever got fired for hiring IBM'. Lately, that alone should be grounds for termination. -Foo-

Comment 05/15/14: IBM sets sights on restoring hardware unit after Q4 slump Summary: IBM's new businesses aren't growing fast enough to offset its hardware unit, but the firm's chief executive is betting on China as a major growth opportunity. -anonymous-
Comment 05/15/14: IBM reaffirms ambitious $20 EPS goal ? but no one but IBM seems to care
IBM is hell-bent on achieving its promised earnings per share goal by next year. Analysts aren?t sure why it bothers.
"I agree with analysts like Bernstein Research?s Toni Sacconaghi who say the $20 EPS goal is more public relations than substance if profit comes from lower tax rates, layoffs and stock buybacks. IBM still has to convince the world that it can do cloud as well as, or better than Amazon, Microsoft, and a raft of other competitors." -Nonymous-

Comment 05/15/14: In the middle of the second quarter, one of the IBM AMS leaders simply decided to command the entire IBM AMS IT army to go forth with an overall utilization target of 131% for the entire Q2.
IBM continues to try to meet their goals by specializing in financial engineering, commanding thousands of employees to simply start billing their customers 55 hours per week for the remaining two months of the quarter to achieve that overall 131% Q2 utilization. Don't you think if the work was already there, we would already be doing it in a planned fashion?
This doesn't get nearly enough attention...salaried workers in the trenches are disgusted,suspect lots of fraud happening to meet billing targets, and the great unsaid - crazy forced, billed 'overtime', but of course that word is never used.
Utilization targets..."if you don't meet them, may lead to executives re-evaluating headcount".
Comment 05/15/14: My reluctance to accept IBM's current trajectory to 'glory' is primarily because of my opinion and beliefs as follows:
1. Its long established culture and beliefs are ignored. Its beliefs and by extension its culture was based on:
    A. Respect for the Individual.
    B. The best customer service in the world.
    C. The pursuit of excellence.
As long as this is being ignored you cannot succeed. In an age of iPads and gizmos, its hard to convince people of intangible things such as justice and fair play and culture.

2. IBM's culture that made it successful in past years has eroded away since it buys and integrates so many companies at a break neck pace and brings in people that are not compatible with its culture or beliefs that have since eroded away - much like Rome integrating barbaric cultures of the north. Haphazard integration of PWC and its foreign culture was the first mistake - and the beginning of the end of its culture.

3. Current management is more focused on cloud and flashy gizmos than actually fixing its sick culture.

4. Management lacks the the type of powerful vision to lead the way the Watsons had done in years past. For what they are paid, they are mediocre at best. I say this because they seem to be chasing markets verses creating them and leading much like TJ Watson Jr. and the S/360 or like Steve Jobs. Current IBM leaders seem to be more reactionary and seem to be chasing whatever bubbles to the top today - and badly that. These are simply my opinions. -Anonymous-
Comment 05/15/14: Wall street is not buying IBM's hype.
Comment 05/15/14: India key in IBM revival, says CEO Virginia M Rometty to staff
BANGALORE: Virginia Marie "Ginni" Rometty, IBM's chief executive officer, conveyed a message of tough love to employees in India during a low profile visit to Bangalore last week. Rometty, 56, who is trying to win over Wall Street's sceptical investors about her efforts to reinvigorate the $100-billion company, spoke about India's rising importance as she implements her gameplan, employees who heard her said.
"If you are uncomfortable with what's going on now in IBM, that's how I want you to stay. That's the only way we will transform this company together," an employee recounted her as saying. -Anon-

Comment 05/14/14: I resigned! I would suggest to all the IBMers that can, should. IBM is a huge machine and nothing we have done seems to make a difference. I was in Sales, could have continued working here as long as I kept selling. I could not look a customer in the eye and"sell" them on IBM. Software and Services are great, but the company is horrible to their employees. Unionization is another avenue to pursue, but that is slow is progressing. However you choose to go forward, do it now and do it big. The only way to impact the top leadership is to make them work. No worker bees someone is going to have to step up. -Concerned IBMer- now EX IBMer-
Comment 05/14/14:
IBM Says Tech-Shift Impact Similar to Financial Crisis
Comment 05/14/14: SERIOUSLY?
"IBM CEO: Revenue 'Is Not The No. 1 Priority On My List' "

There's been a lot of hand-wringing over the shrinking revenues at IBM. But CEO Ginni Rometty wants investors to know that reduced revenue is really part of her grand plan to grow profits.
Comment 05/14/14: I was cut from IBM Rochester MN in 2003. I have been working for a insurance company for the last 12 years in Minneapolis MN where they treat everyone like a person and pay way more then IBM. I just found out IBM is trying to get money from our company by claiming we misused licence agreements by more than 15 million dollars. We disproved their claims and paid them nothing. This was such a sick desperate attempt to get money from us.... so glad I do not work for such a evil sick company/management people anymore. -Roger-
Comment 05/14/14:
The Dow Takes a Breather as IBM Takes a Dive
So far, the market has reacted negatively to the statements, sending IBM down. The likely reason? The presentation has been light on specific reasons for optimism, and heavy on things we already know. The big picture strategy makes perfect sense in speeches and press releases. We've all read the SEC filings, listened to the interviews, and understand the plan.
What investors want to see now is tangible results. How are IBM's customer's responding to the new cloud technology products? Will Watson, IBM's famous supercomputer, ever achieve enough scale to move the revenue needle in a meaningful way? When will the company start to grow again?
The executives presenting today have their finger on the pulse of the company. Investors want to feel a strong, healthy heartbeat when Rometty speaks. And as of yet, that hasn't happened.
Comment 05/14/14: This video link is not about IBM. But it IS about a company (Nokia) that has begun to shed workers in India for a variety of reasons. One of the most interesting things about this video, are the "almost free land" and 'public utility status' that Nokia got from the Indian government as well as other *incentives* to move their operations to India, in 2005. These *incentives* are similar to what IBM was given. Now, the Indian workers are feeling the effects of offshoring and plants shutting down. Sound familiar IBMers? IBM is on the lookout for cheap labor and *incentives* from countries that will allow their workers to be exploited, too. IBM has also fired IBM India workers.
The workers of the world need to unite. IBM workers of the world need to unite. The video is lengthy but it's worth watching: -BlueEyedBlindness-

Comment 05/14/14: To -15yrsandcounting-: We were called to a conference room years ago and the manager told us we had to claim 15% OT every week on our account, no matter what, and if we didn't do it, it was going to cause us a lot of problems, so just make it happen. It came back to bite them in the AZZ soon after when the OT lawsuit was settled and I got my check, hahahahahah. -Gone_in_07-
Comment 05/14/14: Anyone else notice who was noticeably absent from the Z anniversary? Some of our biggest customers were there, but little-ms-Ginny couldn't even be bothered to make a 5 minute video. There's a pretty clear message for you Z folks. Never mind that you've been keeping the bottom line black. :-( -waiting_my_turn-
Comment 05/14/14: -Sharon-: Us peons have no visibility to upcoming announcements... I always wondered about these leaks about upcoming announcements... It had to be mgt, a girlfriend/boyfriend of a manager, or the support staff. Which is it? -Not me-
Comment 05/13/14: I saw Ginny's interview on CNBC this morning. She had a very hostile attitude and was very very bitter toward older IBMers. Expect more RAs for the older workers She said that the bottom line revenue interview for each quarter was as important as satisfied customers. That is why RAs continue at IBM to make the numbers every quarter. Theses CEOs Lou, Sam And Ginny are all about bonuses and stock options and don't give a damn about IBMers. IBM needs an employees union. -ANA-
Comment 05/13/14: Ginni, your customers don't share your vision.,ibm-dont-compare-softlayer-to-amazon-web-services.aspx
IBM: don't compare SoftLayer to Amazon Web Services. Far different to rival AWS, argues IBM.
Some questioned the high price of the Softlayer deal when it was announced in June. SoftLayer had revenue of US$400 million a year when IBM acquired the company from GI Partners, a private equity fund based in Menlo Park, Calif.
A CEO for an IBM Premier partner, who did not want to be identified, said he is skeptical of the SoftLayer cloud infrastructure offering. He said his Fortune 500 customers are not willing to risk their business in a public cloud environment such as SoftLayer.
"It's too big a gamble," said the CEO. "If their systems go down, it could cost them $1 million USD a day. They would rather have their own data center, man it themselves and pay their own electric bill." -Anon-

Comment 05/13/14:

Ginni Rometty, IBM chief executive, says the group is reinventing itself but Wall Street is growing impatient
Comment 05/13/14: Ginny doing the road show trying smoke and mirrors at the NYT and today on CNBC. When asked by David Faber today if IBM is done with divestitures after the Lenovo deal Ginny responds:
ROMETTY: "I would say-- I would always answer never, I mean, because it's continuous transformation. If I have learned anything in my decades with this company, it's constantly changing this company for the future. That's what I'm here for."
Only way she is going to make $20/share by 2015 is to joint venture and dump Microelectronics Division.
Comment 05/13/14: You Want IBM's Cloud? You'll Have to Pay for Watson First. The question is how much of IBM's proprietary advantage is real, and how much is a sales pitch? Like rival Meg Whitman of Hewlett-Packard (HPQ_), Rometty says her company is "poised for growth" but based on Watson's promise rather than the mainstream of cloud. -anonymous-
Comment 05/13/14: IBM/Softlayer Scores Another Massive Hybrid Cloud Deal. Or Does It? Devastating commentary on IBM's PR machine from Forbes.
Comment 05/13/14: -Steven Pearlstein- Yep! When do the IBM executives and insiders buy IBM shares on open market with their OWN MONEY? Like go to a stock broker and say buy me 10,000 shares IBM common and here is my personal check or hard cash for the buy? They get $0 option stock grants and only use their own funds to purchase these options if they make $$$ otherwise they forfeit those options and get another batch of the $0 stock candy. -anonymous-
Comment 05/13/14: Big Blew makes it harder to sue.... -anonymous-

Comment 05/13/14: IBM continues R/A due to age discrimination . If you are over 49 IBM will find a way to get rid of you. All of this started under three figure Lou. I am a third generation IBMer my grandfather had 27 years my father had 32 years and I retired from IBM with 27 years of service. Growing up in Endicott New York, it was a great place to live and work until Lou became CEO. He destroyed my home town and a lot of IBMer lives. IBM needs a union contract to protect the IBM employees of today. Join the union. -ANA-
Comment 05/13/14: On the Bloomberg story:
"Under the old approach, fired employees could either accept severance pay and waive their right to bring an age discrimination claim, or reject the severance offer and preserve the right to pursue legal action. Now, IBM doesn't have to disclose the age and titles of coworkers in a group layoff because it's no longer asking fired employees to waive legal action, since it's offering arbitration in such cases, Bloomberg reported." <===
IBM didn't disclose the data during the 3/31/14 layoffs... so we got no arbitration and no list. Actually, why would anyone really care about the title of the laid off employees? I just want to see the ages to see if the majority of the people are 40+. I couldn't care less about their titles. -Say what?-

Comment 05/13/14: To IBM$uck$ - 20 years ago I started as a secretary to upper level and though this is a forum on job cuts it ties in. Whenever there was a "anonymous complaint" or negative feedback on surveys... the managers would gather and figure out exactly who "anonymous" was.... and that person would be targeted ! I left years ago but my husband still works there.. can't wait for him to leave. -Sharon-
Alliance reply: All the more reason to join the Alliance and work with a group of members instead of doing it on your own.

Comment 05/13/14: The Supreme Court saddles up for an attack on retiree benefits: -Michael Hiltzik-

Comment 05/13/14: Revenue Growth: What Has Happened To IBM's Sales Culture? -anonymous-

Comment 05/13/14: Troubling pattern at IBM. Nice to know you all work at a company that overtly breaks the laws as it discriminates - it seems. Nice to know IBM employees have a backbone and fight to stop it - not. -anon-

Comment 05/12/14: -miss_understanding- Yes, a big HMMM! IBM is more disrespectful to workers and dares them to challenge why they have stopped AGE disclosure in RAs. Sure it is AGE DISCRIMINATION and IBM knows it. But IBM knows the employees are worse than the dumbest of sheep: they don't even know how to flock to try to protect themselves.
That Doug Shelton: what does he look like? Is he WATSON? Says same things ALL THE TIME like a warped skipping 12 inch vinyl record.
"IBM has stopped disclosing age data in resource action to protect (ex)employee privacy"
WTF? When did IBM care about IBM privacy since getting rid of RESPECT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL as an IBM pillar belief?
Oh, about the IBM Open Door process being fair?!? LOL!!!! It's an IBM HR device; not a process.
Everyone I knew who used the IBM Open Door "arbitration" process had that door slam or hit them, on the way out! -IBM$uck$-

Comment 05/12/14: Not sure how many other ways we can say this... let me try saying it more loudly instead. IF YOU POST FALSE BILLING INFORMATION IN CLAIM, *YOU* ARE LIABLE. -15yrsandcounting-
Comment 05/12/14: @Anonymous - Contract CLAIM. Unless you can directly relate your CLAIM billing to invoice, you're making an assumption on the relationship between your time and the bill which could be wrong. Your activities are for internal project cost accounting. Without proof of how your CLAIM is measured into dollars, I wouldn't say anything to the client. There are often times a lot of things rolled into an invoice before the clients sees it. There can be give back in labor (no-charge T&M), there can be billing breaks on volume labor. To assume that everything that is CLAIMED is straight line billed is not wise. You need more information on the invoicing side or you need to give us that information in order for a more-informed opinion. -Ed-
Comment 05/12/14: Things that make you go HMMM: -miss_understanding-

Comment 05/12/14: The IBM CLAIM process is just as rigged and unethical as the IBM PBC process. IBM management uses it for it's own agendas and corrupt goals. -da_facts-
Comment 05/12/14: IBM Poised for Growth, Chief Says: -Anon-

Comment 05/12/14: Unioneer is right - my manager told me to increase my utilization to 128%, but he did NOT tell me to falsify anything. I just know for a fact that productivity in those extra hours is irrelevant. Nobody cares about that. It's all about billing the hours. -A-
Comment 05/11/14: Corporations can't stop gobbling up their own stock: -Steven Pearlstein-

Comment 05/11/14: I'm an IBM contractor, on their AT&T account. Month after month, we are given a list of CLAIM project numbers and percentages to which to charge our time. The projects are often ones we have nothing to do with. Then, every month, we are asked to go in and change those numbers - always to *different* projects we have nothing to do with. I have records of all these requests, in order to protect myself. My question: Should I blow the whistle to the client? This all smells like possible fraud to me. Thanks. -Anonymous-
Comment 05/10/14: Claim is your own responsibility if you are not putting in correct hours then your the one in the dock not your FLM ...get real here you not in school I was asked why I was flat recording 37 hours PW and I replied by saying that's what's on my contract nothing more nothing less bye bye I never heard of them again,Use Them as much as they abuse you rake no crap -Band 6-
Comment 05/10/14: -RAtirement- Re: Freedom of Information request.. To what end? What would it accomplish to know 10, 10000 or 10 Million have been filed? Not busting on you, I just don't understand why anyone would care. The government cannot regulate how IBM treats "At Will Employees". That's why we need a contract. No one else but we the employees can affect this situation. Waiting for management to have a change of heart sure won't work. Waiting for IBM employees to grow a pair figuratively speaking has not worked in 15 years . The only bright side is the more of us they get rid of the less number wise it takes to reach 51 percent. -Exodus2007-
Comment 05/09/14: Falsification of CLAIM or any business records. You sign it, YOU are the one responsible, YOU will take the fall for it. If you have any hard copy documentation being told to falsify or alter records keep copies. IBM will point the finger at you, take legal action against you! Regarding IGA billing, it may be "blue money", but it still comes out of a department, division budget which is funded by real money. There used to be a tool where one could view burden rate costs. That being the cost incurred by IBM for supplying services per employee. It was identified at one time that IGS was billing $500 per employee per month to support a Notes ID. The tool since disappeared. -Anon-
Comment 05/09/14: About the situation where an IBM Global Account employee ("anon") was being told to show higher 128% utilization. I hope you guys are not naive enough to believe that a manager would have ever told him in writing that he has to knowingly submit inaccurate claims. No manager would have told him that he can take a vacation day and still claim that as working day. All the employee was told was that he needs to up his utilization to 128% and he needs to do whatever he can to get there. If that means working during a planned vacation day, so be it. -Unioneer-
Comment 05/09/14: Has anyone ever submitted a Freedom of Information request to the EEOC to determine how many discrimination complaints have been filed against IBM? -RAtirement-
Comment 05/09/14: There was a special edition of Think Magazine that was published September 1989 commemorating the 75 year anniversary of IBM.I found it stashed away in a box in a closet today. It saddened me greatly to read this magazine and remember how great a company IBM was once to work for. Page 8 listed IBM's Basic Beliefs:
1) Respect for the Individual.
2) The best customer service in the world.
3) The pursuit of excellence.
Watson Jr on page 78 said "And the final and most important lesson: A corporation's beliefs must always come before policies, practices and goals. The latter must always be altered if they violate fundamental beliefs." How far IBM has fallen in 25 years -longtimebeemer-
Alliance reply: If the IBM employees in the US had stepped up 15 years ago, and decided to organize then, it's probable that things would be different today. This can STILL happen. It still depends on the IBM workers' unifying and standing up for the beliefs that the Watsons tried to continue to instill throughout the company. Organize and join together. Join the Alliance and let's get to work at uniting IBM US workers and returning to the fundamental beliefs that TJ Watson held above "policies, practices, and goals".

Comment 05/08/14: To -Anon- who was asked to reach 128% utilization (53 hours per week, even if on vacation) in IBM Global Business Services "on the IBM account" and said: "The question is why this CLAIM increase benefits IBM's quarterly results when it is blue money?"
The answer is it won't increase IBM's overall quarterly results, yet it will pad GBS's pockets. Your managementteam in GBS on the IBM internal account have their own internal billing targets that they are supposed to meet. So they are willing to have GBS employees submit falsified CLAIMs (reporting and billing time NOT worked on internal projects as if it was). This falsified reporting won't impact IBM's overall bottom line, however, it does negatively impact the IBM divisions being falsely "billed" while padding GBS' pockets since internal funds will flow from these divisions to GBS. When these managers/execs get promoted it will be further evidence that IBM's own internal measurement systems foster and reward unethical behavior.
-RAd in 2009-
Comment 05/08/14: -Screwed- 40 years old the cutoff. Why? So IBM can avoid age discrimination implications. Of course it was discrimination. Ask respected actuary Andy Lang. He'll tell ya. I suggest the take into account age and years of service like if you are 39 years old with 16 years old you are treated like the 40 year old with 15 years of service. And the extreme case of having 21 years of IBM employment and being 38+ years old. IBM HR told me "..gee, well maybe it was considered, but what is done is now done..move on" and I said "yeah, like spilt milk! -sby_willie-
Comment 05/08/14: IBM has been RA older workers for younger workers ever since LOu was CEO. He was a master at age discrimination. He was the one who destroyed the older workers careers. IBM employee needs a union contract to stop this destruction of older workers. Join the union. -ANA-
Comment 05/08/14: Re: CLAIM. If you are asked to put information into the system that is not reflecting your true working hours, you need to ask your manager if they are asking you to falsify company records. That will usually get them to back off, but it will also ensure that the target is on your back. -Stepping Stone-
Comment 05/08/14: I heard from a 2nd line today that just before and during Impact, execs in SWG sales passed the word that cuts would have to be made, and anyone that is not making their numbers should be fired immediately. There was some pushback from managers, who wanted a chance to be able to lobby for anyone that had extenuating circumstances, so there is a reprieve/delay. The message was that results at the corporate level cannot sustain the current headcounts, which must be cut. Also, the GDP bonus that Ginny said the 1 PBC folks would get was converted into an outstanding contributor award by payroll (probably for some tax benefit or so they don't have to 401k match as I think someone said), which then eliminated anyone on commission from receiving the award, so there you have a brand new batch of top contributors (PBC 1) who are highly motivated to leave and work for the competition. -ShipGoingDown-
Comment 05/08/14: To -Anon-, who was being told to falsify hours to meet 128% utilization.... If you DON'T report your manager, YOU are violating BCG. I'd suggest a simple email to Ginni or HR, saying you're being directed to violate the guidelines and afraid of the consequences of not complying and/or reporting the problem. -Anon2-
Comment 05/08/14: @T2Rworkedforme - thank you for posting about your experience. Re getting ahead of delegating work to others - it would help if they gave us more than two weeks of lead time on the announcement - ie I will not have a definite "accepted" for T2R until June 16, then will tell my team that I'm PT as of July 1. In my present job, that is quite do-able - for others, a month of lead time would probably be useful. But I am looking forward to that acceptance email! Thanks again for posting about your positive experience and your suggestions on how to make T2R work. -15yrsandcounting-
Comment 05/08/14: IBM Favored Young College Grads, Age Bias Suit Says
Law360, New York (May 07, 2014, 8:37 PM ET) -- Three former International Business Machines Corp. employees lodged a putative class action in New York federal court, alleging the company had discriminated against older workers through a hiring policy that favored young college graduates in violation of the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, according to documents made public Wednesday.
In a putative class complaint, dated April 28 but made publicly available on Wednesday, former IBM employees John McCormack, 46, Mark Lingl, 48, and Ron Shelton, 58, allege they were laid off at the same time... -JustSaying-
Comment 05/08/14: IBM reminds me of 3rd world dictatorship.
1. Corrupt leaders looting and hoarding wealth for themselves at the expense of the common people.
2. Common people suffering and being abused and taken advantage of.
3. Corrupt and rigged judicial process/system. Monkey courts absent of any justice. (hint PBC appeals process)
4. You could be charged and convicted without due process - given bad PBC rating and subsequently RAed or fired.
I personally know of organizations that are about near ridding themselves of all IBM software and hardware. They are sick of its sales people and its products and high fees and its poor standing in the court of public opinion.
Comment 05/07/14: ANON: Where do the BCG factor in? ha ha Ask your FLM. haha -RAtirement-
Comment 05/07/14: ~screwed~ I got you beat in the screwed department. On 7/1/99, I had 19 3/4 years with the company and was 39 3/4 years old. Actually, 1 month shy of turning 40. So after 31 years I retired voluntarily with the cash plan, and had to battle with IBM for 6 months to get my 401K match back. I never received 3 patent awards I was supposed to get as a retiree, even after signing a lot of patent documents after I retired. But I got that $100 goldish watch. I'm so glad to now be working for a great company that truly values it's employees. -GoneIn2013-
Comment 05/07/14:
3 insiders sold IBM stock within one month. The stock was not purchased by any insiders in the month of intensive selling. All 3 of these insiders decreased their holdings by more than 10%.
Comment 05/07/14: I took T2R in 2012. I never worked one second past the 24 hours agreed upon. My manager was actually the one that told me I should never even consider doing more than 24 hours. I worked Wed - Fri and turned my computer off all other hours regardless of what was going on. It is each person's own personal decision on what is best for them but if you are planning on retiring anyway and want a part time job, you should consider it. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 05/07/14: Was told we need to stretch utilization to 128%. I was told to increase my CLAIM hours to 53 per week until EOQ. Also, either skip vacation, or CLAIM it regardless of planned vacation. Note that I am on the IBM Account in GBS, but still, the unethical, deceptive, financial engineering continues. The question is why this CLAIM increase benefits IBM's quarterly results when it is blue money? -Anon-
Comment 05/07/14: IBM's chip business: Experts speculate on rumored sale. -anon-
Comment 05/07/14: If you lose FHA even after working 30 years for IBM and lose it due to the 55 yrs old requirement, the Union should help fight for the all the IBMers affected. Whoever is affected, should join the Union to help fight for your benefits being taken away by IBM. -Anonymous-
Comment 05/06/14: I think as far as IBM as an employer goes, we are beating a dead horse, as for IBM, their 2015 plan basically has been to photoshop photos of horse, bet all raises for employees, all profit sharing, , all executives are in a money grab, in horse race scenario, every quarter they lose the race, their solution originally was to cut the fat, they cut fat and lost race, so they cut muscle, now they are cutting bone, None of the executives seem to realize that they are basically "selling the truck for gas money" They themselves are deliberately setting it up so they can take their share and ge4t the golden shower I mean parachute, At some point in future, this 5 year plan will be identified , but only after execs have left with a robber barren worth of share, and they al know that and someone will be put in place to rebuild Humpty Dumpty. The current execs are only looking to how much can they get before Humpty falls from the wall -Itsart-
Comment 05/06/14: Bill, I was 39.5 years old on 7/1/1999 and had 16 years of service. That's sad that someone only 6 months older than me with one year of service, would have an advantage over me. -Screwed-
Comment 05/06/14: I took the T2R 2012 package. Once I was on my T2R schedule, I declined meeting invites that were outside my work hours. My schedule was (4) 6 hour days and I was done by 1 pm. I made a priority list of everything I was doing prior to T2R. I made it clear to my management that I was not able to do all this work in 24 hrs per week and they needed to abide by the commitment they made to me. Their choice was to either re-allocate the lower priority work or decide that maybe what they wanted me to do really wasn't all that important and no one should do it. It took about a month to get everyone "trained". So, if you are considering T2R know that it is your responsibility to enforce your schedule. BTW, I was a FLM and I regularly donated (and still do) to this site because I believe that a unionized workforce benefits everyone. This was the only place to get the real info. So, give up a week of Starbucks and send that money to support this site instead. -T2Rworkedforme-
Comment 05/06/14: "B323 has a buyer! Road Map 2015 in place and on target. Where will you be? -IBM to Real Estate!-"
A buyer for B323? Who? How much? When? -Blue Flu Lou-

Comment 05/06/14: WOW. So we are divided by FHA and Non FHA as well as 40+ in 1999 and Non 40+ in 1999. I stand corrected. Silly of me to believe even folks with the same coverage would really HAVE the same coverage. That would make it too easy. -Exodus2007-
Comment 05/06/14: -Exodus2007-: It's at least 55 years old first and foremost AND at least 15 years of IBM employment for FHA eligibility. -da_facts-
Comment 05/05/14: Yes FHA >=55 years old and employed by IBM at that age. No FSA < 55 years old when RAed or leave IBM age. 30 years of IBM service (once "retirement eligible") doesn't matter if you are NOT yet 55 years old in regards to FHA eligibility! -FHAformula-
Comment 05/05/14: To those working 30yrs or more, you don't loose your FHA if you don't make 55 yet. But you cannot use that account till you reach 55 yrs of age. Clarify with IBM benefits. RA'ed on 3/31/2014. -anonymous-
Comment 05/05/14: The full eligibility requirements for FHA are listed in section 1.4.4 of the "About Your Benefits - Future Health Account" Document number USHR 117 on the NetBenefits, Reference Library page. You do not need to be 55 if you meet the age 40 on 7/1/1999 with one year of service age requirement and have 30 yrs or more of service. -Bill-
Comment 05/05/14: @RAtirement: Sorry to whack all of your assumptions. I am not a management troll, not a manager at all. Born in 1947. Hired by IBM in 1998 when I was 51. Turned 67 this year. Will be 68 when I retire in 2015. Can start Soc Security whenever it makes sense. (ie anytime after 66, and I am way past that!) T2R is a great program for me. -15yrsandcounting-
Comment 05/05/14: To -Exodus2007- If someone was not 40 on 7/1/1999 They needed to reach 55 to get FHA, regardless of years of service. I had 31+ years when I got RA'd last summer but I was not 55 and I lost my FHA, which was close to $35K. I got $100 of that back when I got my retirement gift LOL. -no_respect_for_the_individual-
Comment 05/05/14: I'm been at IBM 30 years as a non-exempt and am very close to retirement. I will not take the T2R , people in the "outside" world this our retirement amount is like a teacher's package...not We get about 30% of that salary... yes I am grateful but hope to stay longer (unfortunetly) . For as many years as I can remember I have put in extra hours at work, due to projects or "emergencies" that if I had left work would have looked VERY bad for my performance review. In probably 60% of the instances, I was told "just take the time off"... managers play "this game" we all know it.... so many times I wanted to tell state government..... but even more times I had hoped for a Union because I'm afraid I'd be targeted to be laid off is I didn't play this game !!!! -closeout not out-
Comment 05/05/14: To -Exodus2007-: huh? I have 32 years with IBM and I'm under 55. RA'ed 3/31, and the ESC said I do NOT get the FHA because I'm under 55. 55 IS the number.
To -15yrsandcounting-: Sorry, but you sound like a mgt troll.... You are going to retire and immediately collect SS at 68 at the end of 2014? So, IBM hired you when you were 53? I don't think they would hire such old people, and it's very rare to have someone nearly 70 on the payroll. -RAtirement-

Comment 05/05/14: To -Exodus2007- 30 is NOT the magic number anymore, at least not when under 55. I had 32 years and was 53 and no FHA there was a little clause you must be 55... So, I lost 30K+ put aside for me because I was 1 1/2 years shy of 55! -GoneinVermont-
Comment 05/05/14: I was RA-ed in September 2013 after 29 years 5 months. I took the 'bridge to retirement' which resulted in an effective retirement date of 4/30/2014. I turned 50 in March. I see conflicting data regarding the FHA. Do I qualify or not? Besides the kick in the *ss I got out the door, do I qualify for the retirement gift at this point? The ESC had to look into this, and haven't gotten back to me yet. Just wondering if there is something I need to do at this point to push things along. -confused in POK-
Comment 05/05/14: Ginny- take T2R! You'll be 57 this year and have more than five years with IBM! It's the ONLY way you will be around 18mo from now! -ilol@t2r-
Comment 05/04/14: If you were 39 at the end of June, 1999 then you do not get the FHA money unless you are 55 with at least 15 years of service. Check Fidelity for effective/availability date of the account. I would have left two years ago if it was based on 30 years. I was one of those 'distracted' phrase appraisals so even if I wanted to the T2R I cannot. But only IBM would offer a chance to work 'less' hours for their most 'valuable' if they promise to leave in 18 months. Must be their method to avoid severance to a large group. Resource Actions are normal seasonal events. Idiot company. -NotReallyTrue-
Comment 05/04/14: If you received the T2R offer you were also added to the"Connections" page for information and document access. Last count heard was about 17K names added. -anonymous-
Comment 05/04/14: IBM breaks labor laws? No surprise. They do it all the time: unchallenged. Why do you think they "agreed" to "remix" exempt employees to non-exempt and give them IBM mandated 15% salary decrease??? IBM does what IBM wants to. To benefits IBM management and their bottom line. PERIOD. IBM $uck$ Join the Alliance PLEASE! There is no other way IBMers to get what you truly deserve which is much better than current treatment. -beammeaboard-
Comment 05/04/14: Ready to retire? Want to see what IBM rewards you with?
IBM company code is 1706. My wife's comment, I quote "WHAT CRAP!" Looking in Kohl's or on Amazon prices average out to about $100. -anon-

Comment 05/04/14: For the person that is 30 years but not 55. The 30 years is the magic number. With 30 years you get FHA. Without 30 years its 55 and some other number. Isn't it neat how even within the company our benefits are so convoluted by age, years of contiguous service and so on that we have trouble understanding what we actually have. A Union contract could fix that. -Exodus2007-
Comment 05/04/14: Does anyone know how does the transfer of the x86 division to Lenovo is progressing? More important, how does Lenovo know how much/what terms to offer the job to the x86 guys? Did IBM gave Lenovo the x86 financials/personal files in order to allow them to make the offers? is that legal? -lenovo-soon2b-
Comment 05/04/14: Another way of looking at "doing the math" ... I was (seriously!) considering retiring at the end of 2014, and starting Soc Sec payments on my 68th birthday in January. So full salary to end of 2014, then SS. With T2R.... taking a hit with 70 percent salary for second half of 2014, granted. BUT... for all of 2014, I have a part time job with IBM that will pay considerably more than any other part time options in my area. And I can use that time to actually develop a better paying freelance practice. T2R is a winner for me, even after doing the math. -15yrsandcounting-
Comment 05/04/14: Well, IBM doesn't make the best employer to work for list anymore, but they do make other lists: -dun-4-
Comment 05/03/14: -anon- about GDF parking lots. Really? Where is your GDF? And no one complains to IBM about this?!! I sure would! You need a UNION contract so you are reimbursed for this ya think? -GDF'ed-
Comment 05/03/14: IBM tries to convince the State's Department of Labor that they are hiring but they are not filling those positions. And the State DOL's are not and have never challenged IBM to see if the jobs for hire actually get filled. If you are unemployed in NY or NC or some other US State you can see this fact. -anonymous-
Comment 05/03/14: My manager tells me exactly how many hours to CLAIM, and at the end of each quarter, he bumps them up. He does not care if I work them or not. I am on the IBM Account, so it's blue money, but still, what a waste of time and crock of sh**. -Anon-
Comment 05/03/14: IBM must be breaking some US Labor laws???, when they ask people to work on their vacation days, etc (which is what you are doing in order to meet those utilization goals. Once, I had this Resource manager who asked me to CLAIM 44 hours for x # of weeks, so they could bill the customer for these hours. I said, I was super productive and finished the work in 40 hours.. No need for OT. She told me to post the hours anyway. I said no, that would be lying. She got on my case about and escalated to my Business Manager. the BM said he understand what I was saying, but just post the 4 hours/week, anyway. I said that was fraud and goes against BCG. The BM said ok. ha -RAtirement-
Alliance reply: IBM is not breaking any labor laws re: working on Vacation days.
There's no labor law forcing companies to even provide "vacation" as a benefit. Union contracts, on the other hand, can be negotiated to include specific benefits such as vacation, and rules that protect workers from losing their vacation.
Also, Alliance suggests that workers document ALL incidents of management pushing their workers to "claim hours" that were not actually worked, so the company can defraud their own customers. That IS actionable and the customers could sue IBM for fraudulent business practices, if they found out.
As far as BCG violations go, the government cannot enforce IBM's own rules of business conduct. IBM can break their own rules any time they see fit. But, once again, with a union contract to protect the workers, those IBM rules cannot violate the contract agreement with their employees.

Comment 05/03/14: NBC News reported on unemployment numbers on 5/2. They said that (among others) IBM is hiring. What. The. F. Yeah, sure. IBM is hiring at minimum wage to replace all the people that got FIRED in Feb/March. And as far as T2R is concerned, I have 30 years but I'm not 55 and I got a 3 this year because I was forced into a different job in July, and was "the lowest contributor in the department.... (What do you expect, I was in firehose learning mode for the rest of the year, of COURSE I wasn't contributing as much as I was previously....!!!!!! what a CROCK!) I am a dues paying member but I'm sorry. I have very little hope that the Alliance is going to be able to do anything for me beyond this board. Too many of the grunt IBM population are too uninformed or too scared (or both) to join the union in high enough numbers to actually come to a vote. If and when things change, it will be FAR TOO LATE for me. -anon-
Comment 05/03/14: Thing is, if you are retirement eligible, you may not get a chance to be RA'ed. You may instead become a victim of the other"initiative" to get rid of people - the "PBC 3" check - two 3's, and you are gone. Kiss goodbye any severance. Another fun initiative if you are in GBS on the IBM Account is forced transfer to commercial and travel jobs. Refusal to transfer implies resignation. In that case, kiss goodbye both severance and UI. So, I am not eligible for retirement, but if I were, I would take the T2R and get the hell out. Who knows what new "initiatives" they'll cook up. You can bet that they will not get better. -anon-
Comment 05/03/14: T2R may not be a bad deal for those who are planning to work post-IBM. Since it is always easier to get another job when you already have a job, you can use the next 18 months to find a better job outside IBM. You cannot be be laid off and you only work 60% of the time so you can be stress-free and can get to enjoy life a little. You can learn new skills that can help snag another job or look into starting a business etc. while you continue to be on IBM's group health plan and 401k. Then when you finally do find a better post-IBM career, you just ditch IBM and move on. Could wok for some. -NotHopeful-
Comment 05/03/14: I was qualified back in 2011 for the T2R. I did the math and it didn't work. I stuck around until March 31, 2014... So I got full salary for almost 2 years, instead of this 70% nonsense... Desperate times for "Carly Rometti", calls for desperate measures... If this T2R can guarantee that you can make the end date and be 55, to get the FHA, go for it.... I was screwed by being too young on July 1, 1999, and also too young on March 31, 2014 to get the FH -RAtirement-
Comment 05/02/14: The only reason one should even consider taking the T2R would be if it will guarantee you the Future Health Account. Otherwise it is ludicrous. I know of 7 people that took it last time and all wish they hadn't. Why? Simple math. You will get paid 70% of your salary. 70% x the rest of 2014 and all of 2015 equals 105% of your annual salary for working 18 months. There is no severance pay (remember, you are exempt from being laid off). You will get 26 weeks salary if you don't take the T2R and get laid off. So basically you need to work 6 months and then it's a wash even if you do get laid off. IBM would love you to take the T2R. Unless it qualifies you for the Future Health Account, my colleagues all said it was a mistake for them to sign up for it. -Avoid T2R-
Comment 05/02/14: 131% utilization for this quarter? Spoke to my FLM & told him I don't think so. Methinks another group push back email is warranted. This time, maybe CC some local papers & politicians that are up for re-election... -I Will Not Comply-
Comment 05/02/14: How And How Not To Launch Mobile App Development Initiatives
On Wednesday both IBM and Facebook announced new initiatives to spur innovation in app development. Facebook's gambit to take over the mobile apps industry from the ground of up is a classic example of Mark Zuckerberg's strategy to innovate by firing on all cylinders. Unfortunately IBM's mobile app development initiative for Watson is a bit of a joke. Regrettably all of the worst qualities of IBM have manifest themselves in The Watson Mobile Developer Challenge. -Anon-

Comment 05/02/14: How to prop a stock for fun and profit.
Warren Buffett A "Wildcard" For IBM.
If or probably when IBM starts scaling back its share buyback program, the stock could stall. However, if Warren Buffett remains a key buyer of the company's shares, he could make up for that decline, at least for now, according to Bernstein Research analysts.
Comment 05/02/14: Reading the negative feedback about T2R - I had two friends who took the offer in 2012, with NO problems. Worked three days a week, and only booted the computer 9-5 on those three days, period. Both worked right into December, both were happy with the program. I guess if you are working crazy hours now, you should probably think carefully about how you will set those limits.... but I know it is possible. (And yes, I will definitely be applying. I will make it to 17 years with IBM, and be gone.) -15yrsandcounting-
Comment 05/02/14: -Xmgr- The problem with IBM's so called market rate is it does not, or did not, compare equivalent jobs or even industries. Numerous times it would leave out companies that were well known in software in the comparisons for software engineers. Instead I was compared to telecommunications administrators at AT&T, manufacturing engineers at 3M and so on. For the comparison to be valid it should have contained companies like Google, Oracle, Sun, etc. The reality is the market based compensation plan is just like the PBC process. It serves no purpose other than to keep dissension down and to pretend that some form of fairness exists. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 05/02/14: "atest at IBM East Fishkill NY is that they are now dismantling the West Complex with the former MCL area up for surplus and B323 has a buyer! Road Map 2015 in place and on target. Where will you be? -IBM to Real Estate!-"
Maybe that's why it looks like the entire side of one of the West Complex buildings has fallen off. Very sad... In the early '80s there were entire EF departments working from POK because there was no room at EF. Not just IBM but this town and country are reorienting themselves around $$$$$, forget families and communities. -IBM_Kid-

Comment 05/02/14: got a T2R email, I'm not even 50 yet. -anonymous-
Comment 05/02/14: Ethics Issues At IBM: Will It Hurt Earnings? -Arne Alsin-

Comment 05/02/14: I think with the Transition to Retirement, you may be immune from being RA'd but you also forfeit any severance package when it's time to go. Be sure to check on that before you sign anything -whatever-
Comment 05/02/14: I participated in the first T2R program and knew several others who did the same thing. For all of us, it worked out great. We were all planning on retiring within the next couple years anyway so it was like retiring and getting a part time job immediately. I don't think any of us ever worked more than the 24 hours per week. Advise picking 3 days a week to work and leave your computer off the rest of the time. With the no layoff guarantee you can basically do whatever you want as long as you are prepared to retire. The only way they can get rid of you is by firing you and then they will have to justify all the good ratings they gave you etc etc. No FLM wants to do that. They will also give you a small severance if you get fired. You can also leave at anytime during the 18 months and retire with little or no notice. So, if you are planning on retiring anyway, this is a viable program if you want a part time job. -anonymous-
Comment 05/02/14: The difference with this years Transition to Retirement is that you have to apply and be accepted. No guarantee that you will be accepted. Two years ago anybody that signed up for it was accepted. I guess that is IBM's way of controlling who stays and goes. (pick the highest payed first). -Van-
Comment 05/02/14: One problem with Transition to Retirement...3's are not eligible! Last time this program came around I was not ready. This time I am ready. Was going to retire next year if I wasn't RA'd before that but because I was 'distracted' and got a 3, NOT eligible. Did not fight the rating thought it pointless. Now I wish I did. Is it too late to fight this? All I want is a 2 to be eligible for this program. -f'd Again-
Comment 05/02/14: Old and in the way - It looks like they are protecting themselves from T2R program if they sell your division to another company. They are saying that if they sell your part of the company, T2R doesn't apply to you in the new company. -anonymous-
Comment 05/02/14: -ANA- IBM has not hidden behind full employment and respect for the individual since Gerstners first year. He did away with both. He also scrapped opinion surveys, killed morale and stole pensions. Are there really folks out there who had not noticed? -Exodus2007-
Comment 05/02/14: Fake candidates are getting recruited in IBM for DBS Bank Project- Singapore in Hydeabad office..
Interested people can apply
Comment 05/02/14: Be careful with Transition to Retirment. The # of hours may not be 60% of 40 hrs but rather 60% of 50 or 55 hours which some organizations consider "working hours for exempt professionals". I know some people who took this last time offered and were surprised when they were told they needed to work 35-40 hours a 70% pay for a normal 40 hour week. I guess IBM can have their cake and eat it to. -becareful-
Comment 05/02/14: I guess the execs/management were hammered in that global survey last year for, among other things, not communicating enough. So their solution is apparently to spam everyone one with useless emails about cloud and mobile, over and over. We wanted useful communication, not just a higher volume of useless email. They don't get it. -Watson's tumbler-
Comment 05/02/14: It's not just IBM, apparently... -15yrsandcounting-

Comment 05/02/14: What the transition to retirement really means is you will be required to perform your function of 100+ % work in 60% of the time for 30% less money. I knew someone who took the transition offer last time around and he never slowed down due to tight schedules and commitments. Do not think that a person who is salary will see any different in the work load. The idea might work for someone on the clock, but I do not think you would be able to not show up if you are on a real production line. As to old saying goes "product takes precedence". -Ich Bin Mueder-
Comment 05/02/14: The transition to retirement program is a joke. I know about 20 people who went through the program last time. All except 1 person was still expected to work long hours. When they did not, they received sub par performance reviews. Almost all of the people got disgusted and quit before their planned retirement date. -Ginny Tookus-
Comment 05/02/14: Latest at IBM East Fishkill NY is that they are now dismantling the West Complex with the former MCL area up for surplus and B323 has a buyer! Road Map 2015 in place and on target. Where will you be? -IBM to Real Estate!-
Comment 05/01/14: Transition to Retirement being offered again this year, received the email today. Looks like the same deal as in the 2012 program: 70% pay for 60% schedule, immunity from RAs, retire by end of 2015. -Survivor-
Comment 05/01/14: IBM is offering Transition to Retirement for anyone with at least 5 year service 55 years old. Wonder if this is just a way of keeping layoff costs down ?? Sure seems like they are encouraging US employees to exit stage left. Should I stay or should I go. Ship is sinking fast it seems. -nonnymous-
Comment 05/01/14: IBM's Culture Is Its Best Long-Term Investment Metric: -Peter E. Greulich-
Interesting and accurate on IBM's deteriorating culture - the write-in comments are even better...-Misty-

Comment 05/01/14: Just heard from a coworker that the Transition to Retirement program is being offered again (at least in IGS US). It sounds similar to the one two years ago. This time those eligible have to retire by end of 2015. I know many on here dismissed this the last time around, but I found it to be a win-win for those who were going to leave soon anyway. -CJ-Roc-
Comment 05/01/14: Just received the new U.S. retirement offer, which guarantees 70 percent pay for 60 percent work, plus exemption from resource actions if you retire by Dec. 31, 2015. Applies to PBC 2 and above. But I'm not sure about the fine print.
"Employees who are ineligible for 2014 Transition to Retirement are those who don't meet the eligibility requirements above and/or:
*Are in-scope for any business development activity that may be announced (e.g. acquisitions, divestitures, outsourcing deals) prior to January 1, 2016. This means if you are included in a corporate transaction after electing to participate in 2014 Transition to Retirement, your election will become null and void. Q3."

There are other limitations, but defining "corporate transaction" is a big one. -Old and in the way-

Comment 05/01/14: Without a union contract for the IBM employees it will not matter who becomes the CEO. Lou, Sam , Ginny , the new CEO ,they are all the same. They are all corrupt and greedy people. Their families do great while RAs continue in IBM and families loose income, and job security, benefits . For all these years IBM has hid behind respect for the individual and full employment. These two factors no longer exsist in IBM. For the sake of all IBM employees join the union and have a union contract. Lou had a contract, Sam had a contract. Ginny has a contract, the new CEO will have a contract, its about time employees in IBM have a contract to protect their jobs and families. -ANA-
Comment 05/01/14: Canada having another RA in June. Also, heard that another "transition to retirement" program to be announced. -anon-
Comment 05/01/14: -Xmgr- What happens if you are off the low end of the market reference point on the salary chart? I was like about $1,000 off the low end I was PBC 2+ performed this year too. I also was not transferred to another IBM site region where the pay would be lower. -lowballed?-
Comment 05/01/14: This should not be any surprise. Demoralized employees run by greedy execs engaged in self enrichment. What can go wrong?
"In March, IBM CEO Ginny Rometty shared with shareholders the company's plans to revamp the business around cognitive and cloud computing, as well as systems of engagement."
Right cloud computing .. over commoditzed and will be more so.. make nickels and dimes from a million ruby coding script kiddies is a great strategy to replace S/360 profits. What could go wrong?
IBM Australia profit plummets by a third: -anonymous-

Comment 05/01/14: Why We?re in a New Gilded Age: -Paul Krugman-

Comment 05/01/14: They shoot horses don't they? The hubris of our executives continues to grow unabated. I work for GBS, NA. Mgmt is obsessed with utilization rate and we are continually bombarded with emails about utilization. We have forced weekend workdays, only our mgmt calls them innovation weekends.
The latest proclamation to come down from the mountain and our astute leaders is that they are going to require 131% utilization rate for this quarter. Basically, our mgmt requires employees to work the equivalent of 6 ? days every week of the year with no vacation, sick time or holidays.
Now since management has only informed us of the 131% utilization rate this week when the quarter was 1/3 done, some employees will have to work even more in the next two months to meet this number. So management is concerned about their employees being able to meet this utilization rate but the rumor is they will motivate their employees by public floggings. Join the union!
Comment 05/01/14: In regards to the "strong" rumors about Rometty being gone, so what!! It will make no difference to your crap working conditions until you get a union. Meanwhile she'll be sipping brandy on the deck of her yacht flipping you the bird. Wake up people. -boat-bit**-
Comment 05/01/14: Looks like 100 acres at the Poughkeepsie Campus are for sale: -dun-4-

Comment 05/01/14: GBS ... 5 of 50 gone today. -Woodcock-
Comment 04/30/14: Ha That is what I said. She has an employment contract that spells out what she gets when she leaves or is forced out of IBM.. None of the people here have a CONTRACT I'm sure she will get millions when she leaves IBM along with other benefits like Sam did. -samtheman-
Comment 04/30/14: To -Anon-: "market reference points" are from when IBM does competitive salary benchmarks. The basic concept is to see the range of salaries paid for comparable job at other companies to understand if your compensation is reasonably aligned. If your manager gives you a chart with your salary plotted against a high/low range, that's where you stand vs the market reference points. -Xmgr-
Comment 04/30/14: So it has come to this: -tired_and_blue-
Comment 04/30/14: To all GDFers: Why, Why, Why, Why, Why?...don't you join the Alliance!? -CarsRnotServers-
Comment 04/30/14: -Samthman-: don't you think Ginny has some special exec contract, which will give her a severance package of 70 million to get out? They aren't going to give her one weeks salary for each 6 months of service, up to a max of 26 weeks -Ha-
Comment 04/30/14: I agree with Not Engaged. The first line managers have no power to hire RAed people, except transfers within or outside of the division, can't give merit increases to 2+ employees, have very little pull to give deserving employees pay increases, can't place employees on the old pension even though they had the years of experience but were "too young", can't give out stock awards at $0, can't organize a simple face to face meeting without getting 10 levels of approval, can't hire US employees and have to settle for inexperience global resources who don't have the knowledge, can't keep high performing employees off the RA lists.... Exec mgt set the tone and policies for the low morale, NOT the first lines! Whatcha gonna do? Fire the FLMs next for being ineffective? -not engaged either-
Comment 04/30/14: IBM's token first female CEO will be known as a failure with 8 or 9 consecutive quarters of declining revenue. Do they take away her Augustus Club membership too? Haha -John-
Comment 04/29/14: What are "market reference points"? -anonymous-
Comment 04/29/14: The Real Retirement Crisis: -Randi Weingarten-

Comment 04/29/14: I heard from someone who works in HR that the employee engagement survey results were absolutely terrible (at least in her SWG brand). Senior management have spent a while spinning the results to make them sound only bad (up from disastrous) and expect the first-line managers to fix the problem! As a former FLM myself, I found this hilarious considering I had absolutely no influence over anything of significance. -Not Engaged-
Comment 04/29/14: Why all the talk about Ginny being fired? She has an employment contract that will take care of her if she is replaced or terminated. Do you? You think the person who would replace her will be any different? The Board of Directors picked Sam, Lou and Ginny. -samthman-
Comment 04/29/14: I spent 10-years and some months in IBM and I had "access" to many levels of the organization with respect to the nature of the role I played. FLM, SLM, TLM, Directors and VP. On the lives of my children, without a doubt in those 10-years can tell you that:
a) there were more executives and managers that shook their head at the decisions made from above
b) they implemented those decisions using the fire-first, aim-second approach. maybe sometimes they would ask if the organization was"ready" but not all of the time
c) If they had concerns maybe there would be a debate but the culture is such that you argue and debate to a point - and then implement anyway -anonymous-

Comment 04/29/14: "There is an excpetionally strong rumour that Carly Rometty will be gone after the stockholder meeting."
My thoughts exactly ..Ginny "Carly Fiornia" Rometty, me thinks, will be ousted soon before the bleeding gets worse - much like the shareholders ousted Balmer. Me also thinks she is in over her head and is reflective of Palmosamo's ignorance for selecting her. My opinion. -anon-

Comment 04/29/14: -BlueFluLou- IBM supplemental treatment vs. IBM contractor treatment. It sure sounds about the same only difference is who writes your paycheck. -anonymous-
Comment 04/28/14: To say many managers do not like the way IBM is being managed and treating it's employees is an understatement!! Sadly, any open challenges to the status quo would be career suicide within management ranks. Even if it's based on moral and sound business ethics. I left a management assignment a few years ago for those very reasons. The PBC process is a farce. Even if you wanted to reward performance the salary grid and market reference points prevent it. The restructuring of job classifications for exempt/non-exempt virtually cut off career growth for all but the lowest entry level bands. The only way to change any of this is to organize and seek collective bargaining agreements. I'm very impressed with the new approach and message from the Global Alliance! I hope "The Street" picks up on this and existing IBM employees especially in the US wake up and get organized. -Anon-
Comment 04/28/14: Re: June. There is an excpetionally strong rumour that Carly Rometty will be gone after the stockholder meeting. There are open mutterings now, from very senior people, that she is not up to it and are trying to distance themselves from her. Hopefully, loose lips sink ships. -Anon-
Comment 04/28/14: To -curiousNH-: Its age discrimination. IBM gets rid on the long term employees and hires college grads with little business acumen, questionable loyalties, little/no work experience. Is that how you would want to run your own business? -RAtirement-
Comment 04/28/14: -curiousNH- Read the job posting for the mfg jobs in Burlington closely. The job add that I read clearly says " Long Term Supplemental positions " Supplemental = Temporary. It does not matter if IBM says "Long Term" IBM can, will and has terminated these positions at the drop of a hat. Read the archives here, plenty of examples of supplemental employees being told not to show up the next week. No severance, no transition assistance, you are just gone. Every time there is a bad quarterly report you see supplemental employees being hit. Cut back to x days/week, x weeks of unpaid furlough, or just fired and gone. IBM is firing full time regular employees with lots of experience then turning around and hiring supplemental employees. IBM can cut loose supplemental employees even easier than regular full time employees. If that is they type of stability that you can live with then go for it. Just know what you getting into. -BlueFluLou-
Comment 04/27/14: Hi, just some questions about the IBM plant in Essex Junction. The website says they are hiring, yet the headlines say 400+ people were laid off. And some further digging led me here, with all this talk of reducing staff, obsolete facilities, etc..
So what's the deal? How can a company downsize and be hiring at the same time? Especially if the facility is supposedly obsolete? Is it worth looking at starting a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) career in chip manufacturing in Vermont? What can you expect to earn starting in the industry? I already work 12 hr rotaing shifts in cleanrooms (biotech) so I think it would not be a difficult transition. Thanks, I know it may be off topic to many of you, but I'm just exploring options.
Alliance reply: So you are not an IBM employee? What do your instincts tell you? From our perspective, it appears that IBM wants to be out of the hardware buisness, completely and permanently. Others may disagree with us. So, stay tuned to this comment section for other IBMers' PoVs.

Comment 04/27/14: It would have been nice to HAVE ALL of the IBM managers that have come to this page, be honest with IBM employees that PBCs were a sham and caused RAs and the destruction of IBM employees' lives. Too bad these managers did not join the union and were for the IBM employee instead of greedy and corrupt CEOs Sam Lou and Ginny. I hope all IBM managers join the union -ANA-
Alliance reply: IBM managers are not allowed to join the union, by Federal law. No way around it unless they quit being managers. But IBM would simply fire them, if managers decided to quit management (or revolted en masse). IBM would not keep them on as regular employees. Your suggestion is not without our agreement, though in sentiment. Alliance@IBM has known for years that many managers--even some in 3rd level positions-- do not like the way IBM is being managed into an "abyss". That's why it is up to the non-management workers to organize and bring a union into IBM USA. It's very hard to do, but it's the ONLY thing to do for the workers that will ultimately breathe new life into IBM's workforce in the US.
Comment 04/27/14: BTV new one 3 week furlough in June, then apply for job with GF do you believe it? -molevy-
Comment 04/26/14: Part of 2013 IBM selected firings called a resource action and my UI ran out. What does Judge Easterbrook (who killed the Cooper vs. IBM appeal but I got NO PENSION since I was hired mre recently by IBM)) and Speaker John Boehner have in common?: both think they know the "time value of money" which I no longer have. Gotta borrow from my 401k I guess..what else to do? No bailout for me. I'm too little to succeed after I appear to have failed. I'm from the Raleigh, NC area (RTP) which should help why my severance and UI is now shot. -U$AGovt$ucks-
Alliance reply: Whether the govt sucks or not, just remember who put you and tens of thousands of other IBM workers in the same position: IBM management.
The govt is not the place to go to get any kind of labor justice, after everything is said and done. The place and the thing that gets you justice and a voice in this situation are a Union and a Contract. This is why Alliance@IBM has said over and over and over: Organize and build a union of IBM workers that can overcome IBM management with a majority election of their own union, and from there, force IBM to come to the bargaining table; where pensions, benefits, layoffs, working conditions, salary-wages, and health & safety rules can be *negotiated* ahead of time. Then once it has been agreed upon, the contract is signed by the union reps and the IBM executive management reps. Then you have all the legal power and solidarity you need to do your job, and do it well.

Comment 04/25/14: "Unions spell out 'demands' to IBM, plan to step up organizing"
This is probably the first time I have seen leadership from Alliance@IBM and their sister organizations across the globe. Continue to increase the pace folks because the more IBM applies focus on "anti-union" campaigns the more worried they become - which shows that you guys are doing the right thing. Any small organization can move faster than IBM; and in my mind there is a glimmer of hope you can achieve some global movement that will create reverberations throughout the industry let alone in IBM.
Comment 04/25/14: Wako- excellent find about IBM stock buybacks! IBM is just rabidly buying back stock to improve EPS with no regard for stockholder value and has been doing it since Gerstner. -IBMstockholder-
Comment 04/25/14: What other states besides CT does IBM not contribute unemployment? -gimmedamoney-
Comment 04/25/14: Mike former manager... You assume competence in the RA decision making. I can tell you there is none based on what I have seen and the sales and delivery people who are left with screaming or confused clients when key customer facing people working on client projects in the "big plays" of mobility, big data and cloid are RA'd while the IBM partners (e.g. Parasites) in the offices give themselves big titles like director of digital strategy never having delivered a single thing. These people are not being replaced with offshore resources, and in many cases these are being RA'd as well. IBM isn't even offering replacements in nearly all cases and this costs us revenue and profit. Its not just GBS but in SWG, GTS and GPS as well. Other companies aren't eating our lunch, we are actively giving it to them. Its like a market exit in ALL lines of business. Maybe Buffet's strategy is to break up IBM and make a mint on the "consultation fees" in this process. -anon-
Comment 04/24/14: You know why -gone2013- people come here to this website? For truthful information. Not the IBM rhetoric always-in-their-favor-spin. IBM is not informing their employees or public. Not about anything except their own news on things. Which is not saying too much of substance. So the Alliance@IBM CWA has a real purpose. There is substance here. If it wasn't for the Alliance who would be forthright? -IBMUnionYES-
Comment 04/24/14: Please be advised IBM management is ratcheting up their anti-union campaign and also rebutting all anti-IBM sentiments on Yahoo boards since it appears it is going to be a rough period coming up, including the upcoming JAX stockholder meeting. -anonymoussupport-
Comment 04/24/14: Also if you were RAed by IBM when a NY resident and later hired as a contractor for IBM (say by Manpower) and let go you also can collect unemployment and collect your pension. -itsafactjack-
Comment 04/24/14: Anyone hear of something big happening June 1? i.e. job cuts? -KC-
Comment 04/24/14: I want to sincerely thank both the Alliance@IBM and a former IBMer from CT who posted:
"If you reside in CT, under the prior pension plan, taking retirement benefits, and looking for work you can receive unemployment benefits. No reduction based on pension amount. Is because IBM stopped contributing to plan at end 2007. Be sure to print prior plan document on net benefits. -Anon-".
I had initially been turned down by the CT DOL, as I was collecting a pension. After reading the above blog, I appealed the decision and won. A huge thanks to my CT colleague for taking the time to share this information - and my sincere appreciation to the Alliance@IBM team for this incredibly valuable website. -Thank you!-

Comment 04/24/14: IBM global unions call for reorientation of IBM: -Alliance-
Comment 04/24/14: -John-
Comment 04/24/14: Could Fiscal Conservatives Help Fight Workplace Discrimination? Check out... -Anonymous-

Comment 04/24/14: Pretty good analysts statement on share buy backs by IBM -Wako-

Comment 04/24/14: Anyone else noticed IBM blocked this page? I can only access it at home now. It used to work just fine... Today it said "forbidden". Kinda made me laugh though... Glad I am leaving at the end of April. -FewDaysToGo-
Alliance reply:
Sorry to hear of your job loss. IBM has been blocking the Alliance site, off and on for some time, depending on the IBM location, in the US. We always remind our members not to access the Alliance web page from inside IBM, because IBM *could* fire anyone if they find out. These are the precautions that we recommend for US IBMers. We aren't aware of the specific rules in IBM locations outside the US ; however, that same caution should be taken for the same reasons, in our view. By the way, the Alliance page can be accessed using your mobile device, too. Thank you for the information.
Comment 04/24/14: Jet Blue pilots vote to unionize.
Jet Blue pilots have enough courage to took out for their best interest even at Jet Blue which is arguably the most employee friendly airline in the US.
Why aren't more IBM employees able to look out for themselves instead of continuing to be lambs lead to the slaughter? -BFL-

Comment 04/24/14: "The union will not give a forthright answer to this. I have heard that the union only has 200 to 300"
IBM management is not forthright with it's headcount numbers when it determines what tax breaks and incentives they get. IBM doesn't tell anymore. They will not even give a ballpark figure on RA firings. Competitive reasons IBM, c'mon that is not forthright or even has an ounce of integrity! The Alliance is forthright: always has been and always will.
So -gone2013- if you are an IBM manager or union buster, troll, or corporate apologist, just go away, -gone2013-. It is now 2014 anyway!
-Go Alliance!-
Comment 04/24/14: Just a quick summary of what is now left in IBM storage sales (John Polly is the VP, a part of division 12) in the US: Started January 2014 with 28 in management and 196 employees. RA'ed 2 managers and 40 employees in March.
This is the entire direct sales force for IBM in the US. 156 employees remain to cover all of this geography. Plus, about 25 of those employees are not even assigned in the field. EMC has that many sales reps in the state of Texas.
-Storage Dude-
Comment 04/23/14: Question by -Anonymous- "I have one question for the Union. How many people do you need to join the union?"
Assuming IBM has 83,000 employees in the US, the Alliance needs AT LEAST 30% (27,667) employees who are willing to sign a card that says they want to be represented by a union. If it can get over 50% (41,501), that's even better. We are at 300 now.
Alliance reply: To clarify, the Alliance also is a membership organization and advocate for employees. What that means is that we can do a lot, way before we get to the point of calling for a union vote. We all know that getting to that point is difficult.
Getting to that point is possible on a smaller scale. For example if the majority of workers at the Dubuque GDF joined the Alliance as full members, we then have an Alliance chapter that can start the process of negotiating with IBM over workplace issues.

Comment 04/23/14: To -Gone2013- What kind of fool complains about an organization that they think is a waste of time, on that organization's web site?? If you think organizing an IBM union in the US is a waste of time because Alliance@IBM member numbers are "too low", why bother coming here to say that in the first place? Are you a union-buster? Are you anti-union? Have you ever benefited from any of the information that can be found on People like you are simply baffling to me. The Alliance replier went too easy on you, in my view. Why not troll on somebody else' board, eh? -BlueEyedBlindness-
Comment 04/23/14: I don't think the Alliance and IBM Global Unions and works councils are making DEMANDS per se; they just sound like REASONABLE ACTIONS that they want IBM to follow. Why is it that a Union DEMANDS and a CORPORATION makes a CONCESSION? Like Unions have no right to tell a corporation whose employees' they represent how they want them to be treated? IBM is placing DEMANDS on it's employees and are not CONCESSIONING anything! It's like IBM's way or no way. -anonymousUnionsupporter-
Comment 04/23/14: Question by -Anonymous- "I have one question for the Union. How many people do you need to join the union? It seems to me that you have keep asking people to join and I have always wondered how many people do you need to ACT?"
Answer: The union will not give a forthright answer to this. I have heard that the union only has 200 to 300 members in IBM-US. The union has no leverage or influence, and never will with numbers of anonymous members this low. -Gone2013-
Alliance reply: Gone2013, We have answered this many times in this comment section. You gave an answer without even looking into the archives. We are not hiding anything. Everyone should stop worrying about how many members we have and join. Is there some magic number people need to see before joining? That is absurd and counter productive. Frankly it is just an excuse to sit and do nothing. The Alliance, regardless of its numbers does a lot of work and organizing.
See this article...again.

Comment 04/23/14: Hey you -RAtirement- There is nothing called cheap or costly resources. All are the same for IBM to fire. As they pay as they get ... so they paid less and hence no one is sticking to their jobs in India -HappytoGO-
Comment 04/23/14: The problem with IBM management (and much of corporate America) is this focus on share price rather than on the business itself. IBM is cannibalizing itself to artificially prop up the share price. The article posted earlier by bigblew said it quite well -
worth a repost - -Anon-

Comment 04/22/14: ANA: They all got their "bonuses" on Jan 31/Feb 1. Not sure what all those $0 cost shares were... part of their employment contract or some kind of "performance" payout... At any rate, it doesn't look good, even if legal, because 4 weeks after, IBM laid off thousands of IBM'ers... How many jobs could have been saved, by NOT giving out those shares? -RAtirement-
Comment 04/22/14: The trouble with this new IBM management is that they could not care less about IBMers . All they care about is their bonus at the end of the year and how many stock options they can cash in to make millions, while RAs continue, PBCs are a shame, benefits are lost, wages decline, raises no longer are available. Mr TJ Watson Sr and Mr TJ Watson Jr would be rolling over in their graves if they would see today how Lou Sam and Ginny have treated the IBM employee. To these three people it is all about greed. IBM needs a union contract for their employees to stop this unjust behavior and for the employees to be protected. Join the Union -ANA-
Comment 04/22/14: Would luv to hear Ginni is out as CEO come stockholder's meeting. What a dunsel! IBM needs to clean house in MANAGEMENT above first line now to survive. 2nd line and above management RAs should be the next round of cuts. -anonymous-
Comment 04/22/14: -No more share buybacks!-: Scary. IBM should not be considered as 'too big to fail'. If it does fail not one $.01 of my tax money will pay to bail them out and keep them afloat!!!!! How many have been RAed and fired over the years making most of them 'way too little to succeed'????? Where is their bailout????? -EPS$***-
Comment 04/21/14: Hold on to your hats! Latest Bloomberg Report on IBM Share Buybacks says Ginny must turn to 'increasing revenue or reduce expenses further' in order to meet profit goals. Investors are becoming fatigued with IBM and more fearful of the ruination of long-term financial health due to the EPS strategy/roadmap. -No more share buybacks!-

Comment 04/21/14: Nick J - I don't know why you would have left a good job to join IBM but be grateful you are gone so soon. Good luck in the future and use better judgement and some research when picking your next employer. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 04/21/14: I wonder if it is any coincidence that Connections and Developerworks is unable to stay up for more than 10 minutes. We just don't have the staff these days. It is an utter and total embarrassment at the moment. -Anon-
Comment 04/21/14: I was a manager for 10 years and was RAd last summer. I've laid people off and can tell you this: It doesn't matter what you do or how well you do it, you are an expense to IBM and RAs are about $$. IBM will continue to lower delivery standards until they reach the point where customers scream, they will improve just enough to make the screaming stop. The hope is that over time the customers will get tired of screaming and simply expect less. Jobs will continue to either be shipped to lower cost countries or eliminated all together until the screaming starts again and the process will be repeated. Your PBC is simply a tool and, like a hammer, it can be used to create or destroy. When it comes to RAs, you're assessment has very little to do with whether your name makes the list or not. The real deciding factor is whether eliminating or having lesser skilled (aka cheaper) workers perform the work will generate an unacceptable level of screaming from the customer. -Mike-
Comment 04/21/14: -da_facts- is correct. The pbcs are subjective and are constrained by artificial quotas placed on the number of 1s, 2+s, etc the org is authorized for. The managers will always find some nit to pick on, to avoid giving you a 1, etc. -RAtirement-
Comment 04/21/14: -anon- This IBM executive regime thinks the only WATSON to notice now is a hunk of iron that "liked" to mentally beat up humans on Jeopardy! It is sad this present IBM "Executive ME first" regime forgets it's true leaders and forebearors just like it forgets it's retirees and present employees. I heard that TJ Watson Sr. begged Gerstner to " his company" when TFL took over as CEO. I guess after that Lou took it that it was HIS (not the Watson's) company to save.. what an insult to TJ Jr. and even Sr. IMO. This IBM executive regime also "celebrated" the wrong anniversary of IBM's 100th year... the celebration was cafeteria hot dogs and hamburgers at IBM site parking lots... As a Union we can fix history and also correctly remember and commemorate it. -IBMUnionNow-
Comment 04/21/14: A long time ago the PBC/Appraisal process was used to identify peoples performance. Back then it was used to support promotions , salary increases and awards. Today it is supplemental to the ranking system.Everyone is ranked and the PBC matches. Usually when PBC 2's get fired it is based on their ranking. Look at it this way if you had 10 employees all rated as a 2 there would still be a ranking 1-10. When the RA happens the bottom goes. Now whether the PBC is an honest assessment that's a different topic. Every company ranks their employees even unions. It is the only way to determine who is the most productive.We did it back in the 60's and still do it today. It's just more visible then it used to be. Back then no one talked about their rating or salary. Today this is discussed in the lunch/break areas as well as the offices.The advantage of a union is it takes longer to fire someone but in times of bad business it still happens. So either go get another job or join the union. -lastdino1-
Comment 04/21/14: I am a ex-RA'd employee of IBM. I have one question for the Union. How many people do you need to join the union? It seems to me that you have keep asking people to join and I have always wondered how many people do you need to ACT? -Anonymous-
Comment 04/20/14: To -anon-.. Of course there is no mention of the anniversary of the death of TJ Watson Jr.. There is no longer respect for the individual, which was one of IBMs CORE values until it was quietly removed by Sam? or Lou?. We know that Lou got rid of full employment, another CORE value from Watson Sr. -RAtirement-
Comment 04/20/14: Employee Salary rip off or 'creative rounding'. Looking at the sheet for my MBA/TCR salary increase. It has been nagging me where it shows monthly and annual salary that doesn't match actual gross pay. Looking at last weeks pay stub it is apparent that IBM is basing the percentage on (24) payroll periods = 48 weeks, not (26) = 52 weeks. 1 PBC performers is your 6% GDP based on full salary or less? -Anon-
Comment 04/20/14: I bet most RAed just fall short of FHA eligibility by IBM's design. -trexibmer-
Comment 04/20/14: So called Performance Reviews or Appraisal Processes are strictly subjective instruments used by a companies' Human Resources Department for whatever means they want to use it for. It rarely leads to objectivity even if the employee is rewarded by it. -da_facts-
Comment 04/20/14: 12/31/2013 was to the 20 year death anniversary of the death of the legendary IBM CEO and son of the founder and father of the s/360 mainframe - TJ Watson Jr. Not a single word from this management. Any comparison to him would put the current management to shame; so naturally his passing would go unnoticed. -anon-
Comment 04/20/14: I think PBC rating is totally independent of being RA'ed. I have been a consistent 2+ but was RA'ed last quarter and yet a friend in a sister dept was rated a 3 and he was safe. -Anon-
Alliance reply: You are right. But there are many *supposed* reasons that IBM uses for RA's. None of those reasons make any real sense, as applied. The bottom line is that IBM RA's people because they believe it will increase their bottom line--of profit$.
Remember: You're an "At Will Employee". As an "At Will Employee", you can be fired for any reason or no reason without notice; or you can quit for any reason or no reason without notice. IBMers need to step away from the "trees" of IBM, so that they can see the "forest" for what it is. Stop trying to play by IBM's rules. Start playing by the rules of an organized labor force that fights for a contract for its union members. Once that occurs, you won't need to wonder whether PBC ratings are independent of being RA'ed. Join us.

Comment 04/19/14: RAed after 10 months, glad I left a good job to be a number for Big Blue.. On my way to a reseller to put EMC/Netapp/Pure in any shop I can get into.. -Nick J-
Comment 04/19/14: I didn't notice a peep on here about the Mozilla employees speaking out about their CEO, now stepped down. Why aren't IBMers similarly announcing their outrage with the Executive management? Oh, that's right, the social web guidelines likely means they can fire you for it. Future looks bleak without a contract... -IBMbarrassed4U-
Comment 04/19/14: Good perspective from David Stockman on IBMs "growth" strategy. -bigblew-

Comment 04/18/14: To -IBMer in search of justice.
Dear IBMer,
There is no longer any justice in IBM. The new IBM is run by corrupt greedy executives and 3 CEOs (Lou Sam and Ginny WHO only care about themselves and the quarterly profits. You and everyone else at IBM is a at will employee, and Executives at IBM can do what ever they want to screw the employees when it comes to raises promotions, benefits, pensions, and retirement benefits and RAs. WIhout a union contract this will continue. Join the Union. -ANA-

Comment 04/18/14: Re: the -IBMer in search of Justice- comment. Amazing once again, that there are IBM employees that *think* IBM's PBC system can be "studied" by the feds or even a State government for wrong doing of some kind. Seriously?? No government labor laws cover company created rules and systems. Why is this fact so misunderstood among IBMers? This is not the first time I've seen this question on this web site's comments sections. I personally think Alliance's patience with questions like this is way over and above what they should be. I wonder how many IBM workers actually are this uninformed? wow. - BlueEyedBlindness-
Alliance reply: We have continued to answer questions, as best we can, regardless of whether they have been asked many times before. Not being informed of labor laws and being an At Will Employee, is the exact reason why Alliance continues to answer these questions without judging anyone. We never intend to insult anyone or be condescending to get our point across.
This why Alliance@IBM exists: to inform and provide an alternative to the propaganda, lies and abuse that IBM dishes out to their employees on a daily basis. Thank you for your support.

Comment 04/18/14: HR appeals regarding PBC issues will no longer result in a "Panel Review". HR case managers now handle the appeals, and it would now take an act of God to actually get beyond them to a Panel Appeal. This is because the systemic downgrading of PBCs across target IBM organizations is a business strategy. HR knows that if these cases go to "Panel Review", fairness will prevail. This isn't about fairness. It's about contorting the PBC system into a tool used to advance a corporate business strategy. More 2's and 3's means more attrition, more forced RAs and inferior severance packages, meaning cost savings. Is it legal to screw employees this way? Of course, it is! I must say that I now envy both of my parents who were government workers and had unions protecting their interests. -Anon-
Comment 04/18/14: I have a simple question. Has anyone or any group challenged the PBC system as discriminatory? After the latest inquisition I sat down with a friend who is a senior executive in HR at a fortune 100 corporation and described the yearly bloodletting we go thru, as well as shared my PBC's for 2014. My friend was shocked at what I told her, and was especially curious as to how IBM was able to deal with the disparate impact caused from such a process. In fact, she was sure that this was an issue based on the resource action process I described. Has anyone looked into this? Is there any way to request the government run a study on IBM?s PBC system? I think all of us would do anything to get rid of this horrid, unfair, unjust, yearly inquisition! -IBMer in search of Justice-
Alliance reply: Simply put, the answer is no. Why? Because IBM can break their own rules any time they want to. The Federal government has absolutely NO SAY about what IBM does with their own policies. The best way you have to "get rid of this horrid, unfair, unjustly, yearly inquisition" is to form a union and fight for a collective bargaining agreement. All IBMers in the US are "At Will Employees" and have no say about how IBM conducts its employee policies; which include the PBC system, the Salary system, the workplace conditions, the benefits (if any) and the circumstances involving RA's. The labor laws generally vary from state to state; but even so, they are stacked in favor of Corporations and business....NOT the worker or employee. If you know of others you work with that also don't know this information, it would be a good idea if you informed them. It would even be a better idea if you and other IBMers currently employed, joined the Alliance and organized throughout the company locations in the US. With the a majority of IBMers, we could bargain for a legally binding contract that would most definitely include protections against discrimination by IBM on many levels, legally. Are you willing to do that?
For more information on "At Will Employee" status and other questions, see this page:
Comment 04/18/14: Anony:You get what you pay for. How are those cheap resources from India working for you, Ginny?? Haha -RAtirement-
Comment 04/18/14: Comment 04/14/14 from GDF comments:
got told 10 more days of furlough for 2nd quarter. After 10 in the first. poor ibm must really need the money! BASTARDS! -billy-
Comment 04/18/14: Client execs in Gb being transferred last Monday and next Monday to SWG. At least part of them, don't know what will happen with the rest, probably laid off. The drive towards business partners continues. What is the logic to transfer unskilled folks to SWG? More client dissatisfaction to come... -Midwestern anon-
Comment 04/18/14: If you treat your resources (ahem, human employees) poorly you can't expect good results. If you browbeat them to improve and threaten them (RA them) it will make it worse in the long run. When will Ginni Withchetty realize this simple fact??? -da_facts-
Comment 04/18/14: GBS Hiring totally frozen. No new hires until at least 3Q. Doesn't include some of the delivery centers (i e Baton Rouge) Any exceptions need to go through a painful process to get approval. -Anon-
Comment 04/17/14: hahaha. Seen on Twitter: @complianceweek: You gotta love modern Corporate America: IBM reports lower profits due to higher cost of laying off workers -Erin-
Comment 04/17/14: STG down 23% for yet another quarter ..
How low can you go?? .. my money says POWER will be next on the auction block .. living in the Unix days are over and it's too late to catch up to Linux -no_longer_IBM-

Comment 04/17/14: IBM to immediately reduce 25% of all US contractors. First release date is 4/18 with the next wave set for 4/25. IBM looking to adjust Subks and put on hold and red or amber (troubled) accounts. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/17/14: I was RA'd 2/27/14. IBM says I am retired. I have not signed up for my Annuity as of yet. Or have I signed up for my cheap retirement gift. Fidelity seems eager to close me out. -Over55-
Comment 04/17/14: Regarding "analysts being confused".... great article. It should be clear to everyone that IBM is in a free-fall at this point with the analysts. The analysts won't admit IBM is in a free-fall state until next year at the earliest because the numbers are just not that low to call-out IBM. The "quality" of the numbers is something that has been on their mind for quite some time. Since there is a pattern of behavior here they can begin calling a spade for what it is.... a spade. Watch Microsoft folks. They will soon be considered a stronger competitor of IBM's Lotus Notes e-mail platform since they are now in the cloud and Notes is not. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/17/14: I smell more RAs...and soon.. -POK'eybyIBM-
Comment 04/17/14: Earnings fell what a shock or not. Just as an example, I was RA'd 2/28, however, I was on a large project at the time where the customer liked me to the point of extending my contract. I was billing the customer over 48 hrs. per week and this most likely would of extended through September with the possibility through the end of the year. Since I was on a DOU to an AMS account, my division did not even consider this and went ahead with the RA. Now does that sound like good management? It just goes to show you that the customer is not even considered and the bad management that exist within IBM now. -AnonPM-
Comment 04/17/14: Not only is the erosion of the company becoming obvious to the street and customers, but internally it feels like the infrastructure is crumbling rapidly. There are huge technical problems on about every internal webcast I try to join. Where is all of the great virtual, elastic, extreme scaling goodness that we tout? Not eating our own dog food? No skilled employees to maintain and equipment/software decaying? Not to mention case after case of egregious security problems. The site that we are asking customers to use has huge security problems, and they will be putting personal information and their schedules on there. The mobile app for last year's Impact conference was a laughing stock, just horrible. -Anony-
Comment 04/17/14: The analysts finally appear to have lost their patience with IBM. If the analysts are confused, and don't quite understand what the company is trying to say, what about regular investors? -anon-
Comment 04/17/14:
What's a right pain in the ASCII for IBM? Its own leech-like hardware biz Keep your eyes on our cloud while we remove this pesky thing, say execs IBM's earnings for the first quarter of the year show that the company's hardware division has turned into a leech sapping Big Blue's profits.
Comment 04/16/14: Quote from the NY Times article: "IBM?s quarterly profit was hurt by a charge of $870 million for the severance costs for workers laid off. Every year, the company, which employs more than 400,000 people worldwide, sheds employees in markets and product areas that are declining and adds workers in other units." -Anon-
Comment 04/16/14: NY Times: Profit and revenue slip at IBM -Anon-

Comment 04/16/14: I was RA'd or fired or however IBM wants to say it back on 2/28. After 3 yrs as an IBMer and more as contractor, I was so furious at the way I was treated as an IBMer. I got a 2 and (2) 3 on my PBCs. In three years, I had 4 different managers, none who had a real clue on how to manage people or even what I was doing! When they actually lied on those two 3 PBCs, I never bothered to contest them with HR. What difference would have made anyhow?! Now I heard that my old group in GBC converted a contractor and tried to hire an old ex-IBMer, who told them NO.... It still irks me the way I was treated and it seems like others were treated the same way. Just remember, you stepford managers, what comes around, goes around.... -EXTXIBM-
Comment 04/16/14: Based on IBM's 1st QTR 2014 results you can bet on another RA real soon. -nostradamus-
Comment 04/16/14:
NEW YORK (AP) -- IBM says its first-quarter earnings fell because of a large charge related to reorganizing its work force. Revenue fell amid an ongoing decline in its hardware business. -Anon-

Comment 04/16/14: Mexican mobile phone operator sues IBM for $2.5 billion: -Nate Raymond-

Comment 04/16/14: IBM hit with $2.5 billion lawsuit by (Reuters) Mexican mobile phone operator,0,5918955.story
Comment 04/16/14: Ginni made 14 million in 2013 yet RAs continue. Ginni Lou and Sam are all three corrupt and greedy executives. Without a union, this type of corruption and greed will continue to both employees and retires will continue to loose benefits ,have no salary increases, and RAs will continue. The PBC program is a shame in IBM . Join the union to stop this corruption. -ANA-
Comment 04/16/14: -Over55- ...and you have that Gubbernor who only approves 20 weeks UI so even if the House finally approves an extension RTPers unemployed for a longer time probably don't get any further benefit. And the gubbernor in NC I heard thinks most on UI just don't want to work in the first place...and backs it up with false statistics and veiled threats too. Makes ya wonder if he is on the IBM executive payroll?!? -TarHeeledIBMer-
Comment 04/16/14: People here occasionally wonder if it would be a good idea to request being included in the next RA. I suspect the wisdom of doing so varies greatly by organization and your relationship with your manager.
Last year, I told my boss that I was in a position to retire and would hate for someone less fortunate to get RA'd when I would probably be leaving soon, anyway. Well, she must have thought it was a good idea, since SHE RAtired in the next round, as did one of the other 1st lines in our group. The funny thing is, both of them were immediately replaced by non-managers. It might have worked out well for all involved, but it's hard to explain how managers are surplus when they're backfilled. It's just another example of how poorly the RA process is managed.
Alliance reply: Without a union contract, IBMers in the US can expect much more "poorly managed" processes than just RA's. IBM "manages" RA's for IBM's benefit, not the employee. The sooner IBMers realize that IBM will continue to abuse and mismanage their workers, the sooner IBM workers can organize and change that paradigm. Get busy fighting for your jobs, or get busy losing them.

Comment 04/15/14:
"There are billionaires like Warren Buffett and Larry Page who don't pig out ... As the chief executive of Google, co-founder Page takes a $1 annual salary ... But there are others who can't keep their hands off the dough."
Ginni, for example, is number 48 on this list: -Pig Stain on Your Fat Chin-

Comment 04/15/14: To -Over55-: what do you mean that IBM can go after you? are you still an IBMer or are you retired? How could they go after you, if you are retired? Did you contact EEOC to file a complaint or to file a suit? -RAtired-
Comment 04/15/14: @-BlueEyedBlindness- ok, what you say makes more sense to me now, thanks for clarifying, and I agree. -Anon-
Comment 04/15/14: @Gone For Good - My wife is still an employee at IBM POK. She has an office, but works from home virtually all the time. We are relocating to be closer to my new job in the greater NYC area, but she will keep her office. Unfortunately I left just in front of last year's Fall layoffs. Wish I could have saved one of the cuts from my Dept. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they punch her ticket, but we figure that at least one of us should get a package after our 50+ years with this place... -Happy To Be Gone From POK-
Comment 04/15/14: Citigroup downgraded IBM to "neutral" from "buy" and set a $200 price target. The firm cited valuation as the reason for the move -anon-
Comment 04/15/14: Well EEOC in NC contacted me today, seems like a waste of time in a "Right to Work" state to do anything Legal with IBM. Was told IBM can go after me if I open a case. I really wish my old co-workers the best of luck. IBM Retirement is not what you think. But I can say I feel more at ease now that I am out of that Hell hole worring every QTR if I have a job or not. -Over55-
Comment 04/15/14: -@Happy To Be Gone From POK- My wife was just RA'd from POK on 3/31 and the reason given is that she does not have an office in NY. We bought a retirement home out of state last year and after getting 2 levels of management approval for her to work from home permanently, we sold our NY home and moved. Ironically, right after we bought the other house, I was RA'd in June. No one knew about the new house then but they sure were jealous that I had a plan. To everyone, have a fallback plan for when IBM comes gunning for you. And they will! -Gone For Good-
Comment 04/15/14: To -Morale in the Toilet-, IBM executives have lost all respect for their employees. Sam Ginny and Lou are corrupt greedy executives. As long as their is no union, this greed and corruption will continue. Join the union so the younger IBM employees will not have to deal with this corruption latter in their careers. -ANA-
Comment 04/15/14: -longtimebeemer- Fidelity administers the plan for IBM. Each year I get a plan summary on how the pension plan is doing. Your pension is guaranteed by the PBGC. If it is sold off as an annuity it will no longer be insured by the PBGC. -samtheman-
Comment 04/15/14: -Anon- I think you misunderstood my point. You're obviously correct about UK's laws. I was saying that IBM's Business Conduct Guidelines are IBM's rules for their employees; BUT, the UK judge cited IBM for breaking it's own rules of conduct. Notwithstanding the UK laws, IBM demonstrated that they don't respect their own rules and break them to achieve their goals. In the US, many IBMers seem to think that there are labor laws that protect employees from IBM executives breaking IBM's own "rules". There are not. This was my point. And I'm not wrong about it. The alternative is a union contract that is collectively bargained for and contains specific rules that the company AND the workers agree to adhere to. I totally agree with your statement that the UK's modicum of laws were in play in this case; however, IBM in the USA is not restricted by as many of those types of laws as they are in the UK. I was simply appealing to IBM workers in the US, and saying that they need to organize and work to gain a collectively bargained contract to protect themselves from IBM's shenanigans. I hope that IBM's appeals re: the UK judge's ruling, are denied. Agreed? -BlueEyedBlindness-
Comment 04/15/14: Just FYI, the previous rumor that the growth-driven profit sharing bonuses that Ginny said would go to PBC 1's was not paid out on April 15. No, this is not some inconsiderate person whining about their bonus while people get laid off, I'm just reporting it because it's important here to provide information about our devious company. I'd actually welcome a package myself, I work hard because that's the ethic I was taught by may parents and the military, and I'm not a butt-kisser. I'm anything but, and have been called on the carpet more than a few times for saying it like it is, to both my management and our customers. I'm in my mid-50's and just biding my time. I don't see anyone around me putting in the effort they used to back around 2001, when we were all very energized. I certainly don't work as hard as I used to and it's taking a toll on my conscience. I just don't want to deal with switching and starting over with another company at this point. So, I'll bide my time a little longer and see what shakes out. -MoraleInTheToilet-
Comment 04/15/14: @blueyedblindness: you are just wrong. In the UK we have a modicum of laws that protect us. I assume you are making the same mistake that CHQ made when dealing with the UK and that "their" rules applied. The judge in 325 pages has made it quite clear that they don't and IBM has to remedy it. To quote the judge "Whether this is an appropriate way of dealing with HR relations in the US, which is the culture with which CHQ, Mr Ferrar and Mr Chrystie were imbued, I do not know. I do not find it an attractive or acceptable way to deal with matters in England." Which, in our culture, is damning. -Anon-
Comment 04/15/14: IBM doesn't want to employ us. RA's, forced commercial/travel work, the retirement 2014 initiative, no variable pay in 2014, dropping appraisals, forcing PBC 3 by quota, etc. All of these initiatives have made for a miserably demoralizing work environment, and IBM knows it. They don't want to fix it. THEY WANT IT THIS WAY! -Anonymous-
Comment 04/14/14: For the estimated 3800 let go in the recent RA, I am one of them and am still in Blue Pages so the 3800 is low. In fact, a few let go in July and Sept. were still in Blue Pages when I left in March. -Suspect in NY-
Comment 04/14/14: -samtheman- I thought that was the way the pension already worked. If you are on the old plan I believe that when you retire, IBM just purchased an annuity from Fidelity that covers the monthly payment you are to receive for the rest of your life and then you receive monthly payments from that annuity from Fidelity. I know that my pension payments are all recorded in Netbenefits and sent to my bank account by Fidelity Investments every month, not IBM. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 04/14/14: -samtheman- -anonymous-
Comment 04/14/14: Got RA'd today after 14 years in SWG. Was told I was part of the 2nd wave of cuts that started in 1Q. I was really tired of the constant cuts and got a decent package so I'm happy. Goodbye IBM. - Canned in Canada-
Comment 04/14/14: 21 years with IBM, and left on my own accord for a much better job with much better pay and benefits. I have lots of connections in the Hudson Valley and have heard of 2 recent instances where NY employees were transferred to another state (CT) and were immediately RA'd upon reassignment. The obvious inference is that this is being done to reduce / avoid reporting these actions. Anyone else heard of this. I would have never thought IBM would stoop this low, but nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to this once great but now pathetic company.... - Happy To Be Gone From POK-
Comment 04/14/14: Re: IBM UK exec breaks IBM Business Conduct guidelines and a UK Judge points that out...
Here's the lesson in a nutshell served up for all IBMers. Lesson: IBM did not break any laws by breaking their own rules. The judge can make any comment or judgment regarding IBM breaking their own rules..BUT the judge cannot impose any punishment whatsoever. If IBM has broken UK laws, then yes, IBM can be judged for that. But not if they break their own rules. Why did I bother mentioning this? Because I've read several of the comments here and in the Alliance comments "archives". Many of those comments demonstrate confusion, misinformation, and outright naivety' about labor laws and internal corporate and business "rules". That's why workers need to look through the entire Alliance@IBM web site and read up on union contracts and what they stand for and who they protect, because without one, IBMers are at the mercy of IBM execs that will even break their own rules to have power over their employees jobs and lives. A contract shifts that power to the workers. Organize and stand up together. It's the best move you can make. -BlueEyedBlindness-
Alliance reply: Our web site has a great deal of information that can help IBM workers organize and grow their numbers. We encourage all IBMers to use it. And Alliance@IBM members dues and donations pay for its availability. Thank you for commenting.

Comment 04/14/14: IBM Earnings Preview: Technically Better, Still Worried About Revenue Growth -Anonymous-

Comment 04/14/14: A long but worthwhile read on 'Corporate Malfeasance & the Myth of Shareholder Value.' A short excerpt to peak your interest: "The business-knowledge elite manipulates the behavior of large corporations, enriching themselves (money managers and institutional investors, securities analysts and bankers, and corporate executives) by skimming profits from the pension reserves of workers and from the investments of the lumpen bourgeoisie." Full paper here: -Won't get fooled again-
Comment 04/14/14: When I was at IBM, I guess I never realized how many companies used IBM as an industry bellweather, copying everything they did, including their offshore "business" model. It's really sad to see, and be a part of other companies hellbent on circling the drain like IBM did. I used to believe that if you were an honest capitalist, you'd eventually get to where you wanted to be through hard work. IBM and many other companies have betrayed that honesty, and turned their back on the very people who helped build them up. We need to unionize EVERYTHING and take our country back. - Fed_Up_American-
Comment 04/13/14: I'm sure IBM is looking to unload it's pension obligations to a company like Prudential, They can pay them a fixed sum to pay retiree annuities to replace pensions. IBM still has to pay insurance premiums to the PBGC whose rates are going up to sure up their funds. Look for many companies to unload their pension plans -samtheman-
Comment 04/13/14: RA (redundancy in the UK) to start in IBM UK this quarter. Managers will be told "this is how many people you can have in your team, decide who you are keeping". Those that just escaped in 1Q will not be so lucky in 2Q. Quite what the clients will make of this erosion coupled with the x86/networking sell off, the loss of the court case, and the blatant breach of its own business conduct guidelines to staff, trust is almost non-existent and you will not find an employee in the UK that trusts IBM any longer. Fortunately as that does not show on the balance sheet it really doesn't matter. -Anon-
Comment 04/13/14: -new2rchland-, my count of 3800 is US regulars only. The count is based on bluepages diffs. -Anon-
Comment 04/12/14: Executive Pay: Invasion of the Supersalaries
Browse the proxy statements of the nation's largest corporations and you'll find the instruction manuals for this apparatus explaining how to finely calibrate the pay of top executives with company performance. -Anon-

Comment 04/12/14: Think your pension is safe? Think again. The pensions of millions of Americans are being threatened because of trouble in a part of the retirement world long considered so safe that no one gave it a second thought.
The pensions belong to people in multiemployer plans - big pooled investment funds with many sponsoring companies and a union. Multiemployer pensions are not only backed by federal insurance, but they also were thought to be even more secure than single-company pensions because when one company in a multiemployer pool failed, the others were required to pick up its "orphaned" retirees.
Today, however, the aging of the work force, the decline of unions, deregulation and two big stock crashes have taken a grievous toll on multiemployer pensions, which cover 10 million Americans. Dozens of multiemployer plans have already failed, and some giant ones are teetering - including, notably, the Teamsters' Central States pension plan, with more than 400,000 members. In February, the Congressional Budget Office projected that the federal multiemployer insurer would run out of money in seven years, which would leave retirees in failed plans with nothing.
Comment 04/12/14: Why R U ALL STILL WAITING FOR THE NEXT RA??? Do you learn anything from the IBM past???! Has anyone counted up all the RAs? Why would anyone waste their time? They Happen and they happen because IBMers let them happen! Wake Up. Think Twice. Organize. Join the Union now. How long do you want to be a victim?? -IBMUnionNow-
Comment 04/12/14: Anon, I was the person who submitted the info on the RA in 2Q. My first line manager told me and I consider it pretty reliable. I tried to ask questions, but he clammed up. The folks under George Metz (GBS operations exec) are always on the chopping block. Just a guess, but once that 2015 target is met, you'll see a slew of execs cash out and leave. -Anon2-
Comment 04/12/14: Found in a fortune cookie: "The axe soon forgets, but the tree always remembers". Sleep well Ginny...And to all the 'trees' out there. May you find better opportunities than the ones IBM offered. -dun-4-
Comment 04/12/14: I thought the retirement gift was "cheesy" as well sent a note to HQ personnel..was told IBM focuses their "nice" gift at quarter century time, smaller, modest gift at retirement...just sayin... -Thefielder-
Comment 04/12/14: Got my 25 in and called it quits for a better place. My gift selection was quite good. Don't think they knew it was there....High end surround sound blue ray outputs. Like 800 bucks retail. Likely not there any more but rounded out my man cave well. Best thing I ever will remember from ibm. -gg-
Comment 04/12/14: -SoGrim- did your manager tell/notify HR Payroll properly you were staying an extra pay period? Or did your manager just "forget"? once your resignation letter was accepted? -anon-
Comment 04/12/14: -retired/RAed- as a regular employee, NO! You usually get nothing could lose any retirement benefits. You could even be prosecuted by your former company for wrongdoings. If you are an executive or middle management, even lower management, sometimes possibly YES, you would get an "exit package" similar to a severance with some strings attached or all depends of who you know and what's in it for the company. They even have negotiation for these folks..not usually available for the normal Joe or Jane employee. -FiredOrNot-
Comment 04/12/14: I was laid off from BTV in last summers layoff. Was retirement eligabile, didn't see much in the gift catalog that appealed to me, picked a gold diamond ring that looked nice in the picture. When I received it I was quite surprised, it looked like a ring from a gumball machine, I could have squished it with two fingers. Threw it in a bedside drawer, been sitting there ever since. - Retired2013-
Comment 04/11/14: Next week another RA. Either 4/15 or 4/16. They will just stay under the NY WARN act for EF (250 minus the small # laid off in February as the number is cumulative for 90 rolling days. BTV won't fair as well. RA will be 500 - the February #. So much for the Poughkeepsie Journal breaking news headline banner claiming Cuomo struck a deal to save jobs. Cuomo tried to take credit for a deal struck last June. Onward to $20 by 2015 Ginny! And don't forget your bonus for ridding the company of the x86 low end servers. Sammy got a bonus for ridding the company of the low margin PC business. I know that I'm not as smart as all the IBM executives but I thought you get a bonus for turning around a division. Like making X86 more profitable. The best of luck to all those affected next week. Hold your head high, you are better than these people. -Hold Your Head High-
Comment 04/11/14: -Anonymous- is your 3800 number a raw count or of regular employees? I saw a huge number of vendors and contractors let go, but the US number appeared to be about half of what you're saying. - new2rchland-
Comment 04/11/14: Please tell us more about the RA in 2Q in GBS. How credible is this? When exactly will it happen? End of May? I am really hoping for an RA package and wondering if I can trust my manager enough to ask for one. I don't have another job lined up yet. It's just that I can't take it anymore. -Anon-
Comment 04/11/14: -ANA- It's colloquially called "precommitted incentives" basically nothing short of IBM have a real downer of a year they get their bonuses guaranteed. -anonymous-
Comment 04/11/14: Watch IBM's 1st QTR earnings closely. If they have a soft or just above quarter expect another RA. The only way IBM knows how to INNOVATE to create earnings! It's $20 EPS and or bust... -nostradamus-
Comment 04/11/14: As for the "gifts," all junk so I didn't bother. -RAd Twice-
Comment 04/11/14: Info- I was told by NC Unemployment to file after my six month Sev-Period is over. $350.00 a week. Was $550.00 a week last year. New Law in NC. -Over55-
Comment 04/11/14: Yo -gone- We call it RAtirement -former BTV'r-
Comment 04/11/14: When you are fired for poor job performance, discrimation, passing trade secrets, contract fixing, etc. do companies normally give out severance pay? - retired/RAed-
Comment 04/11/14: -joe- I agree! I looked at the gift catalogue before I left, and the gifts are CHEAP. After 30 years, is that all you are worth to IBM? $3.33/Year. Those gifts would be more appropriate for IBM'ers celebrating their 10 year anniversary... I wonder what gift Adkins picked? ha! - Retired/RA-
Comment 04/11/14: Looks like IBM tried to screw UK workers and lost. I suppose in the UK government and corp doesn't join forces to screw the individual. Possibly. -anon-
Comment 04/11/14: @anon and @joe, The gold watch I referred to is not solid gold... Probably just $100-200. I wasn't trying to it was a big deal. It was just one of several indications that I did retire, yet IBM had me recorded in there system as terminated, so I didn't get my 401K match. With Fidelities help, we got it fixed so I was able to get the $xxK I was owed. That was a big deal to me. -GoneIn13-
Comment 04/10/14: It appears that about 3800 US employees were impacted by this latest RA announced at the end of February. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/10/14: My manager just told me another RA in GBS 2nd quarter. I don't know any other details. -Anon-
Comment 04/10/14: Dear -IsItorIsn't-, It was an "RA" aka:firing, but since I had 35+ years, it became a retirement. The package included a "covenant not to sue".
Dear -JoePal-, No sweetheart deal. Typical RA/"firing" package which has been unchanged for years, with a "covenant not to sue". -gone-

Comment 04/10/14: What the IBM-Globalfoundries deal could mean for Fishkill and Essex plants: -JustSaying-

Comment 04/10/14: Dear -Gone-, I suspect you got a sweetheart deal from IBM. Contracts or signed agreements can always be questioned by courts. EEOC rights trump illegal employment actions, imho. - JoePal-
Comment 04/10/14: IBMs compensation is designed for top executives. All top executives in IBM have a contract which their compensation and benefit structure based on their contract. All IBM Employees have no contract without a union. Without a union contract, IBM will continue to shaft their employees in all areas of salary and compensation and benefits. Lou, Sam and Ginny will continue to screw the IBM employee. Join the union. -ANA-
Comment 04/10/14: -Gone- So everyone who agreed to take the RA severance agreed to be separated from IBM and essentially accept being fired without cause? -IsItorIsn't-
Comment 04/10/14: To -GoneIn2013- Gold Watch in 13? I was let go and forced to retire at that point last June. I googled just about all of the gifts in the catalogue and they ran about 100 bucks.... "big deal". -joe-
Comment 04/10/14: Based on Bluepages
Since Jan 2014- Down 4238 full time US employees.
Since Jan 2013 - Down 12,053 full time US employees. This does not count contractors. -the sky really is falling-

Comment 04/10/14: Was it ever determined (or estimated) how many US based people were affected by the RA the end of February? -curious-
Comment 04/10/14: -@Anonymous- in BTV Mike Cadigan (general manager of IBM Microelectronics division (makes chips for STG in Fishill and Burlington), a part of the Systems and Technology Group (STG) which makes the Z and P series mainframes, had a town hall in Fishkill, NY on 4/8. The town hall was preceded by an All Managers meeting, with HR topics on the agenda. In the employee Town Hall Cadigan brought up how Ginny made mention in the Annual report that IBM is committed to hardware. He mentioned the 'rumors' that were in the media about the Microelectronics Business being up for sale. He even poked fun at the NY Times saying that there was even a story that said that FaceBook was going to by IBM Microelectronics.
One brave soul asked him a very pointed question. I'll paraphrase the best I can remember: 'Mike, you said that IBM is committed to hardware, but IBM said that they were 100% committed to the x86 business right up until 2 weeks before they sold the business to Lenovo. I tend to trust what I read in the NY Times more than what I hear from our CEO'. Cadigan's reply was something along the lines of "I wouldn't" , which I took to mean that he wouldn't trust the NYTimes more than he would trust Ginny.
I don't have any idea what was discussed in the Manager only meeting other than it was billed as a preview of what the employees would hear in the Town Hall and that HR would be filling in managers on something.
I do think that the last piece of info that I got out of IBM HR that made my life better was in the previous century, BOHIC again. He ended by saying that if it should turn out that we get sold it would be good for us to be in as strong a position as possible, so let's execute and don't be "distracted" by the media stories. Anything notable in the Q&A in Burlington?
Comment 04/10/14: Dear Over55, The paperwork I signed in 2013 said that I would not take legal action against IBM once I received my severance. Did your paperwork say the same? If so, IBM can take action against you. -Gone-
Comment 04/09/14: I voluntarily left the nightmare after almost 15 years. After giving two weeks notice and staying an extra two weeks to help my manager, I found out that my two checks prior to departing were held back, pending determination of whether I owed money--payment was stopped AFTER I received the paystub. Seriously?? What company withholds two paychecks after an employee volunteers to stay longer than they had to? Without warning, I might add! Not a problem for me, fortunately. Be aware that your paychecks may stop immediately once IBM knows you're leaving...even though you're still working. -SoGrim-
Comment 04/09/14: Thank you for the "Anonymous" post on 3/4/14 regarding unemployment benefits in CT. I learned that CT does not reduce unemployment due to severance pay IF it required signing an agreement foregoing your rights. With respect to reducing unemployment due to pensions, it depends on whether the employer contributed anything in the "base period" in which they calculate potential unemployment benefits. In my case, IBM stopped contributing to the old plan in 2007, years before the base period. As a result, I received 26 weeks of retroactive benefits. Every state is different, so check details carefully, appeal if necessary, and provide a copy of the 2006 IBM press release: -Anonymous-

Comment 04/09/14:You think you have a non-management career in IBM? THINK TWICE. 95% of you will not make 10 years in IBM if hired today UNLESS you make it to ER (Executive Resources) or kiss the right management a$$ then 99% of you in fast track management will be around in IBM 25 years from now. With a union you can have a career in IBM! -YaThink-
Comment 04/09/14: To -GoneIn2013- how did you get a gold watch? I retired last year and all the retirement gift choices I saw were pretty underwhelming. -Anon-
Comment 04/08/14: BTV employees have been sent a note that Cadigan will be onsite 4/9/14, no agenda was given for the talk. One can only assume he will dodge questions and claim that he is being kept in the dark by the corporation and not answer any RA questions. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/08/14: I remember in the separation docs that you can file an EEOC sit but wave the right for any monetary damages. -samtheman-
Comment 04/08/14: If STG sells to Global (or someone else) can they just take away anybody's pension who isn't retired yet without notice? Or is that illegal? From what I have heard it's illegal, but they could give people a one time payment equal to the amount of money in their account, provided they are vested or turn pension over to the new company??? I'm wondering if I should bail out now from BTV as I'm vested ? I know in the past IBM has rolled the pension over to new company. Without a union to speak for us and my lack of trust in IBM.. I need to make a decision. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/08/14: If STG sells to Global (or someone else) can they just take away anybody's pension who isn't retired yet without notice? Or is that illegal? From what I have heard it's illegal, but they could give people a one time payment equal to the amount of money in their account, provided they are vested or turn pension over to the new company??? I'm wondering if I should bail out now from BTV as I'm vested ? I know in the past IBM has rolled the pension over to new company. Without a union to speak for us and my lack of trust in IBM.. I need to make a decision. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/08/14: I can't believe I've been gone 7 years and nothing has changed on this site. Everybody still talking about their PBC rating which is a sham, how badly they are treated, and low morale. 7 years and nothing has changed. For those left at IBM, you only have 2 choices. If you really want to stay at IBM, you have to stand up and fight for your rights. The only way is to organize and unionize. Otherwise you have no chance. Your second choice is to leave before they throw you out onto the street and find a job some place else. Those are your two choices. What's it gonna be? -Gone_in_07-
Comment 04/08/14: To -RAd 2014-: In my day (2010), a "Bridge to Retirement" was an UNPAID leave of up to one year, until the date you would be eligible for retirement. Severance was separate from the bridge and followed the usual "2 weeks per year of service". Eligibility for UI varies by state, so would depend on how Florida regards severance. It would be best to check with a lawyer. To -Over55-: Bravo for filing with EEOC! Let us know how it works out. -Gorya-
Comment 04/08/14: To -RAed in Florida-, Florida has a one week waiting period after a layoff and then counts the number of weeks severance as pay. So if you had 4 weeks severance, you would have to wait 1 + 4 = 5 weeks before collecting an unemployment check. Since you are bridging to retirement, you probably are receiving 26 weeks of severance, so you have to wait 27 weeks to collect unemployment (so the 2nd week in October)."IBM Retirement" means little/nothing to Florida's unemployment system. -anon in Florida-
Comment 04/08/14: To>>-Floridian->>You must not be an IBMer or you would know that IBM DOES NOT PAY YOU while you are on a IBM BRIDGE to RETIREMENT. Payment would come via a separate Separation Package. -HUGGIE-
Comment 04/08/14: Insightful commentary on IBM/GlobalFoundries deal:
Here are two snips from that article: ...To make it plain and simple: IBM made the choice to put financial engineering ahead of real chip engineering, and now it is suffering the consequences... ...IBM's chip plant in Burlington, Vermont, is pretty old in terms of the process technology it uses, and therefore it is not worth all that much except for the skilled workforce and government permits it has to operate in the area... (if true, then it seems that IBM is shooting itself in the foot by firing many of its skilled BTV workforce) -JustSaying-

Comment 04/08/14: @SoonToGo, I left voluntarily in September 2013, after 30+ years (no package), and had quite an ordeal getting my 401K match. I called Fidelity after I didn't get it in 30 days as I was originally told. They said to wait until 12/31... nothing. Then started an inquiry and found I was listed in IBM system as terminated, not retired. I had a retirement letter from Ginni, a gold watch, and had a retirement dinner??? Fidelity was able to get this corrected and I finally got my match, plus a true up on lost gains during that period. So don't trust them to get it right without "help". I suspect my manager did something wrong when I left, because she hadn't ever handled someone leaving voluntarily... only RAs. -GoneIn2013-
Comment 04/08/14: The Jan 2014 OSHA notice in Bldg 001 in RTP shows 5171 employees. The 500 complex may be separate. I'm sure OSHA expects those notices to be placed in a prominent location, such as near the main entrance or cafeteria. IBM puts it in by a back door near the computer center. -Anon-
Comment 04/08/14: I really think if the US govt does it's due diligence on the Lenovo deal they will kill the deal. First, IBM got rid of all the experienced high-priced technical people to make the numbers look good, they could care less about the people, Lenovo, the customer base, or national security. It was primarily to make Q2 system x look good. Finally, forget about the Chinese putting in back doors in firmware, all they need to do is delay some patches and/or bug fixes during a critical time and they could cripple the capabilities of the large clusters of x86 systems and thus indirectly control some of these key systems that the our government agencies depend on. Do you think the US will get higher priority than the North Korean friends when it comes to support calls? -Concerned-
Comment 04/07/14: -Over55- I tried but my papers disappeared during 9/11 since they went to the EEOC there... If you file with EEOC I don't think it carries much weight legally unless you have a so-called "slam dunk" case. It can't hurt to try though... -I'veBeenMaligned-
Comment 04/07/14: To Over55: I believe the EEOC process is a two step process, but I could be wrong... The first step is to file a formal complaint against IBM for age discrimination. Filing a compliant is different from an actual age discrimination lawsuit, which you aren't suppose to do, if you signed that agreement, and took the severance package. - Retired/RA-
Comment 04/07/14: Filed with EEOC today for age discrimination. What are the odds that anything will come from it. We all know IBM wants and does Ra Older workers with time in the company to save money. Also can IBM come back at me? I did have to sign the document on my last day in order to get paid. -Over55-
Comment 04/07/14: To: RA'd in 2014 (in Florida). A bridge to retirement is simply a severance pay that continues paying you until your future retirement date instead of until a time calculated by the formula "2 weeks per year of service". Since you will be receiving money from your employer until Nov, 2014, you are not eligible for any unemployment benefits during this period. You can apply for UI benefits after November if you are actively looking for a job then. -Floridian-
Comment 04/07/14: @ihateibm - No Lump sum from the severance pay does not affect UI in Texas. Apply as soon as you can. -anon-
Comment 04/07/14: Poor Ginny only $15.4 million. She and Lou and Sam continue to RA employees while ripping off USIBM employees and retirees. IBM needs a union to stop this corporate greed and corruption. The only thing that will stop this corruption is when the union calls a strike and all IBM employees go out on strike. That will be the best day in IBM employees history. Join the Union -ANA-
Comment 04/07/14: Received a call this (Monday) morning from "Joelle," who "represents a financial and regulatory investigatory firm" seeking to file some sort of class-action suit against IBM, and is seeking information from former employees of same. CallerID returned "Operator 0" on my phone. Is this legit? And, if legit, is it related to the weebly link posted previously? -SimpleMath-
Comment 04/07/14: Israel media is reporting major layoffs in IBM Haifa Research labs: -ExIBMer-

Comment 04/07/14: Let me give you an insider view of IBM Burlington where I work and what's been happening amid recently job cuts. We've loss a good portion of our staff, due to the last "Resource Action", and with talks about another Resource Action coming on April 15, 2014 (I'm surprised there hasn?t been more talk of it). I'm told this RA is being performed to reduce the headcount for the eventual GlobalFoundries sale.
I can't handle working here anymore, each day living in fear as to whether I'll keep my job. Many of my colleagues have also resigned or like myself are looking for new jobs outside of IBM. I was shocked to see so many subject matter experts leaving the company for new opportunities. I discourage any new hire from taking a job in Burlington, because they don't raise your salary very much each year since our market doesn't have many engineers and they use that to justify 0-1% raises. Everyone in Burlington is demoralized and morale is reaching 0%. Management during the resource action has been appalling. They have tried to justify it with every excuse you can think of. From what I can tell many people are RAed because management is trying to silence employees that speak up and question their aimless strategy. A second line manager (formerly a third line) in the Fab had an employee RAed because of a personal vendetta against him. The employee was a above average 2+ performer, and complained to IBM HR, but despite the manager behaving unethically and breaking the business conduct guidelines he will go unpunished. I often wonder to myself why he is not RAed he routinely shows up late to meetings, he is clueless on most matters that impact our clients, and he doesn?t know anything about the Fab processes. Clients have said that they prefer not to deal with our second line manager because he has zero credibility. He also tries to shift the blame to other employees in his organization, and hides the mismanagement in his area from the director of the 200 mm fab, and the VP of semiconductor operations. My first line managers drink the Kool-Aid and will do whatever upper level management wants them to do. I wouldn't want to be in their position, because any manager that speaks ups is immediately punished. During our recent layoffs the only manager to get the ax was one that spoke up to our directors and told them their strategy was wrong. Working in this division of IBM is just absolute punishment. -BTV Nightmare-

Comment 04/06/14: Just received a random survey from IBM called "Global Integrity Survey"....
"Dear IBMer,
You have been randomly selected for participation in the IBM Global Integrity Survey.
This survey is voluntary and, as all surveys are in IBM, it is completely anonymous - all personal information submitted becomes anonymous at time of submission. This survey is conducted in accordance with IBM Employee Survey Review Board guidelines and IBM survey policy, and is being hosted on an IBM approved external website. Your opinion is very important to us. Survey results will be used to identify areas for improvement within our compliance programs...."
There is no integrity at the executive level or even 2nd line management and up. Do they really need a survey to find a clue?? omg - Clueless in Armonk-

Comment 04/06/14: To Observer: the EFK 2013 OSHA form says 3675 avg employees. -Anon2-
Comment 04/06/14: Perhaps we should take up a collection?
Study Finds BofA's Moynihan, IBM's Rometty Among Underpaid CEOs
"Another CEO who came in as slightly underpaid was IBM's Virginia Rometty. IBM is among a number of companies that have strived in recent years to closely tie performance to compensation. Rometty's going rate, according to Crystal, was $15.4 million, though she took home around 9.5 percent less." -anon-

Comment 04/06/14: One of the worst managed company. Moreover STG is handled worst. No plans for employee retention. They are putting all the resigned list into RA list. Don't know what they want to show to the world..Company speaks of Ethics, Trust and so on.. But doesn't live up to that... -Anonymous-
Comment 04/05/14: The idea of Lenovo buying IBM's server unit doesn't sit well with the FBI.
Not long ago, Lenovo announced its plans to buy IBM's low-end server business for $2.3 Billion / $1.69 Billion, but not everyone is as enthused
about the idea as the company itself. In fact, some US higher-ups are very worried.
Major infrastructure and telecommunication companies always need to subject themselves to close scrutiny by the government. After all, government agencies themselves rely on their services, both for carrying out their job and for doing so in a secure fashion. Many of IBM's servers are used by the Pentagon, the FBI and US telecoms, and it is experts from IBM that are often called in to deal with system failures, security issues and the like. After all, customer support is an integral part of such a company's business. -Anonymous-

Comment 04/05/14: He's probably wishing he didn't buy all that IBM stock.
"A new statistical analysis of Mr. Buffett?s long-term record at Berkshire Hathaway has just been done, for four of the last five years, Mr. Buffett has been doing worse than the typical, no-frills Standard & Poor?s 500-stock index fund ? so much worse that it's unlikely to be a matter of a string of bad luck. Mr. Buffett has begun to behave like an investor with no alpha at all." -anonymous-

Comment 04/05/14: I was RAd 3/31/14 but Brdged to retirement 11/30/14. In Florida, can I collect un-employment? Question is since this was not voluntary is un-employment available to me now? - RAd 2014-
Comment 04/05/14: 4th April 2013. Mr Justice Warren's judgement of IBM UK in the UK High Court of Justice. 700 UK IBMers left IBM as a result of pension changes (Project Waltz.) See
and -UK IBM retiree-

Comment 04/05/14: -SoontToGo- I was separated on July 15th 2013 and retired on August 1st 2013. The IBM Matching 401k for 2013 was deposited Sept 30th 2013, and included the 401k match from Jan 1st 2013 through July 15th 2013. My full 401k remains at Fidelity Investments. I don't have any reasons to move it elsewhere. -dja-
Comment 04/05/14: About East Fishkill: Once we see at least ONE RA related to the 300MM Fab then we will know... -FishFooled-
Comment 04/05/14: To -No_Respect_For_The_Individual-: When I finally told my family that I was retiring from IBM, because I was laid off, the reaction was"wow! I thought IBM was run better than that!". I had given them some insight into what was happening inside the company... info that I had not previously shared. I think IBM still has mindshare that it is a well run company, but we all know it's not the same company anymore, where decisions are made by the paper pushing accountants who know nothing about Technology, yet they are the ones who make technology decisions for IBM now. -Perceptions-
Comment 04/05/14: RA'd after 38 years. I was able to retire, but the timing was not mine. I need 2 more years of employment. Question about unemployment in Texas. Does anyone know, with the lump sum retirement from IBM, does that kill eligibility for unemployment checks in Texas? - ihateibm-
Comment 04/05/14: Pension ruling in UK
..."The Judge also concluded that the way in which IBM announced, consulted, and implemented the Project Waltz changes was in breach of its Imperial duty of good faith to its employees, and that IBM also breached its implied contractual duty of trust and confidence of its employees."
"The Judge has also found that the consultation process was not carried out in a way which was open and transparent and in accordance with IBM's own philosophy as set out in the Business Conduct Guidelines and Core Values to "avoid misrepresentation" and to engender "trust and personal responsibility in all relationships". He concluded that this constituted a breach of duty and of the consultation regulations. In particular, the business reasons for Project Waltz presented to employees were limited to the operational improvements and savings needed as part of the UKI Transformation, and did not make clear IBM Corporation's requirement for the UK to deliver pension savings as part of the IBM?s 2010 earnings per share roadmap."
Comment 04/05/14: To -In The Know-: I was RA'ed but was Retirement eligible. I live in Virginia and applied for unemployment benefits. Wasn't sure if it would go through or not, since I indicated that I have applied for pension distributions (new plan). Much to my surprise, I do qualify for 26 weeks of unemployment benefits, per the letter I got from the State of VA today. - Retired/RA'ed-
Comment 04/05/14: To -SoontToGo-: It took about 2.5 months to receive the match. My last day on the active payroll was 7/12 and I actually saw the match around Labor Day. No pun intended. -Anonymous-
Comment 04/05/14: The FAB sales may be the best thing for people still working in those areas. Having a company that would be willing to invest again in semiconductors would be refreshing, much like the way IBM invested in selling ASICs on the open market 20 years ago. -Still_Blue-
Comment 04/04/14: In order to get the magic $20 EPS, the latest rumor is that all technical sellers in SWG will go back on a leveraged pay plan for 2nd half. Mgmt is trying to sell this as a wonderful thing....think about all the extra money you will make. What they don't say is that quotas will be cranked up accordingly so most will make far less than their pay before. Given the mass firings, 401 match down to once a year, etc., there is no way IBM would increase their payroll costs. Sure, a select few will come out ahead, but 90% will lose in this "deal". Many I know are looking to get out now. This is all so pathetic.... - RoadKill_2015_Lives_Again-
Comment 04/04/14: Net body count for GBS Australia Q1 wa 550ish including RA's, voulantary leavers and the few hiring tickets. Q2 round is pending. And the pipeline looks poor worst I've seen in thr last few years. -Ozzie GBS Gal-
Comment 04/04/14: potential Sale of EFK: I thought you can start up a Biz in NY State and get a 10 year tax break. So why can't IBM work the deal? Shut down for a day reorg and then apply for the deal.. -FishFool-
Comment 04/04/14: For the reference to IBM managers requesting employees to not talking about pay. This is illegal see below. Provide the Alliance with details
In 2002 Vermont adopted an equal pay law,theEqualPayAct. Whodoesitapply to? Any employer, employment agency, labor organization, or any person seeking Vermont employees. What does it mean? It is illegal to pay wages to employees of one sex at a rate less than the rate paid to employees of the other sex for equal work that requires equal skill, effort, and responsibility under similar working conditions.
Employers cannot require employees to sign a wage non-disclosure agreement or make employees agree not to disclose their wages as a condition of employment. Employees are protected from discipline, discharge, or any retaliatory act for disclosing their own wage. In 2005 Vermont adopted a Wage Disclosure Law. What does it mean?
Employees can disclose and discuss their wages without fear of discipline, discharge, or retaliation.
Write Down What Happened. Were you offered a lower starting salary, or did you discover that you are being paid less than a co-worker? Were you disciplined or discharged because you disclosed your wage to a co-worker? Unequal pay also violates federal law.
Find Out How Others Have Been Treated At Your Workplace. Share information with co-workers on ways to improve pay, benefits, promotion opportunities, work schedules and other working conditions. Vermont's law is similar to the federal Equal Pay Act passed in 1963 which is enforced by the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). The Vermont Attorney General's office notifies EEOC of complaints that involve the federal law.
Talk to Your Employer. Check your employee handbook for procedures for filing a grievance or resolving a problem. Put your complaint in writing.
Decide Whether to File A Charge. The Vermont Attorney General has the authority to investigate complaints of wage discrimination and to seek civil penalties and damages from employers who violate the equal pay law. Damages are usually double the individual's unpaid wages.
How Does The Equal Pay Law Work For You? Vermont employees have the right to equal pay for equal work.
Equal work means work that requires equal, but not identical, skill, effort, and responsibility, and is performed under similar working conditions. It is unlawful for an employer to retaliate against you for filing a complaint with the Attorney General's Office. Employees can be paid different wages when the difference is a result of:
* A seniority system;
* A merit system;
To file a complaint of wage discrimination, contact the Attorney General's Civil Rights Intake Unit: Pavilion Building, 109 State Street, Montpelier, VT 05609; (888) 746-9195 (VT only) or (802) 828-3657; or file online at
* A system in which earnings are based on quantity or quality of production; -Anonymous-

Comment 04/04/14: To "Soontogo" I retired effective 11/30/2013 (not part of RA, although I volunteered in 2012 and 2013), I received my matching 401K within 1 week, in fact before the normal 12/15 date and I still had my 401K with Fidelity, I transferred it out of IBM in late December -new2013retiree-
Comment 04/04/14: Maryland's governor blamed IBM and its software for the website's technical problems.
"We take responsibility for fixing this, and we'll see IBM in court," O'Malley said.
IBM said in a statement that it went beyond its contractual obligations to help Maryland meet enrollment goals and that state officials didn't properly manage the exchange.
Comment 04/04/14: Lenovo's bid for IBM server unit reportedly sparks national security concerns -Anon-
Comment 04/04/14: More cuts in Brazil today, Sales Transaction Support. Bid Manager roles being transitioned to GDCs. About 15 folks were cut this morning and more to come in the next months as more positions are being trained in Hortolandia center. -anon-
Comment 04/04/14: Thanks IBM for laying me off. It was tough in the beginning, but found my self in the process and understood my value is much higher then what IBM used to make plus got separation of course ;) -H1B laidoff-
Comment 04/04/14: Heard on a call this afternoon that there was a RA announced this morning that affected S&D where a number of Client Execs were affected that supported some large core accounts. -IBMer again-
Comment 04/04/14: Lenovo-IBM Deal Probed by U.S. Over Servers at Pentagon
Lenovo Group Ltd. must convince government officials that buying a server unit from International Business Machines Corp won't give China back-door access to U.S. secrets and infrastructure. -Anon-

Comment 04/04/14: "Received 1% salary TCR effective 4/1. After tax's breaking it down to a weekly amount, it barley covers the cost of coffee and a bagel per day."
Are you an Alliance member? If so great. If not, why not take your piddly TCR from generous IBM and join now? It is only $0.165 a day to join the Alliance as an associate member. And it costs only $0.493 a day to join as a full-time Alliance voting member. - IBMUnionYES-

Comment 04/04/14: Let me TRY TO understand something: Once you are RAed from IBM you no longer work for or are not employed with IBM. Period. So how can severance pay be considered any way close to earned pay (work for compensation, i.e. PAY in legal tender)? If IBM is going to report severance pay as "work income" then they have to again announce age and numbers of those getting severance pay during an RA or drive by!!! What is happening in this country and with the USA Congress who does next to nothing?? It is getting worse than absurd! God bless America. How about God PLEASE SAVE America! -IBM$ucks-
Comment 04/04/14: article on possible sale of IBM EF -anon-

Comment 04/04/14:
Report says IBM selling chip branch East Fishkill plant's future seems uncertain again -Anon-

Comment 04/04/14: Only IBM innovation left is how to do financial engineering to try to boost EPS at all cost. Is it also innovation how to wreck a corporation by these RAs? Haven't seen too many of those Smarter Planet campaign commercials lately. I guess those folks who say "I am an IBMer" can't say that anymore since they probably have been RAed... -IneffectiveBusinessMeanderings-
Comment 04/03/14: Kiss Burlington, Fishkill, good bye:
"Globalfoundries Inc. has emerged as the lead candidate to buy International Business Machines Corp.'s IBM -0.44% semiconductor manufacturing operations, people familiar with the matter said. IBM has also held talks with chip makers Intel Corp. and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. these people said. TSMC has dropped out of the talks, the people said. Intel is still involved, but Globalfoundries appears to have a stronger interest, these people said. Talks between IBM and Globalfoundries are ongoing and a deal isn't imminent, these people said. The transaction involves thorny issues, including control of intellectual property and terms under which the ultimate buyer of the facilities may keep manufacturing chips for IBM computers, they added. Price is also another sticking point, with IBM initially asking for more than $2 billion and bidders coming in north of $1 billion, the people said." -Anon-

Comment 04/03/14: Question for retires in 2013 that left before Dec. When did you receive your 401K match, when you left, or in December like everyone else? Had you transferred your 401K out of Fidelity previously, if so how was the match handled? -SoontToGo-
Comment 04/03/14: Rumors that IBM will start reporting severence pay as salary in all states. Good luck with filing for unemployment if that is true. -In The Know-
Comment 04/03/14: Well sad to say Netbenefits does not let you run numbers for Pension since Iam no longer with the company/Retired as Ginny would put it. You now have to work with Fidelity who just wants you done with them. -Over55-
Comment 04/03/14: To Exodus-2007 - Maryland isn't the only state blaming IBM for healthcare site failures. Minnesota has blasted IBM as well. Way to go IBM...keep up the good work.. RA all the senior workers with experience, then let the junior-less experienced workers run the show. -dun-4-
Comment 04/03/14: I was wondering if anyone has heard of addition resource actions at IBM Canada this year for reg employees? -Anon-
Comment 04/03/14: @temp@ibm Received 1% salary TCR effective 4/1. After tax's breaking it down to a weekly amount, it barley covers the cost of coffee and a bagel per day. Looking at place in the salary range info, competitive? After years just off bottom end. Insulting to say the least. -Anon-
Comment 04/03/14: Well, some of us are in crap-hole areas of the company where it's nearly impossible to get better than a 2 these days, and we've seen our organizations offshore to 80%+ and seen many colleagues RA'ed over the last 5 years, so yeah, it's annoying to hear complaints about bonuses from areas of the company where the grass just happens to be greener by sheer LUCK. Your manager doesn't want you to talk about your bonus since it is the same as bragging about being a 1 performer, given that we all know only 1 performers are getting the bonus. Many of us have had years where we deserved a 1 but got a 2+ and years where we deserved a 2+ and got a 1. It's LUCK, about 90% of the time - right place, right time, opportunity, visibility, and LUCK. -Anon-
Comment 04/03/14: I've heard from a few folks that management has been saying the following. "at some point money is irrelevant, it's about the people you work with". What a bunch of BS. There's no money, ALL of the talent is leaving, and they treat us like $#!+... I don't see IBM recovering from this.... -Anonymous Coward-
Comment 04/02/14: Unfortunately this round is not over . The names of people in NY state left out because of the deal with the governor are being revised now. Once legal gives the ok those people will be Ra/fired like the rest of us. -Anon-
Comment 04/02/14: -da_facts- Actually, public perception about IBM is probably neutral bordering on unfavorable. While people may not see the rampant mismanagement we do, they're not seeing any distinguishing innovations either. Very little differentiates IBM from any other bloated corporation. -Ano Nymous-
Comment 04/02/14: Talking about bonuses on a "job cuts report" forum is much like Ginny saying she's forgoing her bonus. It's a punch in the gut for the RA'd people. There's allot of people on this forum who just lost their job. -No_Respect_For_The_Individual-
Comment 04/02/14: Don't talk about bonus or raises. Boy is that funny. A local manager has asked that the employees receiving a Top Contributor adjustment to not talk to other employees about it. They feel that talking about the top contributor pay raise would make moral even lower than it already is. Make any excuse you can to keep employees from talking to each other about what is wrong here. Yes, I got a top contributor adjustment and I AM A VERY PUBLIC MEMBER OF THE ALLIANCE. I am also very much aware that a few more of us will be tapped by the end of April. -Got Mine-
Comment 04/02/14: Maryland Governor blames IBM by name on Fox45 local news for Maryland's Healthcare website failure. Says we will see IBM in court. -Exodus2007-
Comment 04/02/14: To: -Jobless and now broke- As you'll see reading through the rest of the forum, you weren't really laid off - you were fired. Sorry. -Anon-
Comment 04/01/14: "All the people who the managers are scared of, get a raise so they don't go running off to second level"
Maybe. But more likely this is the scenario now: IBM Directors usually hold the budget so ultimately has to approve the raises. That IBM Director, if a male, is now playing golf somewhere since it is Spring and the country clubs are open. So generally forget about a raise being approved in time!
Comment 04/01/14: -Surreal feeling- Like lambs to the future slaughter... New Hire Orientation is New Hire Brainwashing except I don't think IBM can afford the new test flavor of their Kool-Aid! They have to use every last $0.001 to getting to EPS $20. - BigBlew-
Comment 04/01/14: IBM is still living off of the vast public perception that it is a stellar company to work for. Most of the public still believes it. The public largely doesn't even hear a peep of IBM layoffs in the USA. So the public still thinks IBM has a stable workforce where you can work a career there if you want. Nothing is farther than the truth. This IBM is far from your father or mother's IBM! Bad news with IBM is released and watered down in sanitized spin press releases. So IBM's good perception is still existing, though eroding slowly due to the younger souls now around. Once the perception is gone so will IBM. -da_facts-
Comment 04/01/14: To -Jobless and now broke- I guess you didn't believe us when you this forum told you: "RA = FIRED"! There is no plan to bring you back. -Huggie-
Comment 04/01/14: To -Surrealfeeling-. You have a group of new hires. I have not seen a new hire in our group in years. -stillatIBM-
Comment 04/01/14: Yesterday was my last Day at IBM Germany. It's a strength feeling. But I am not unhappy as the outlook for new jobs/opportunities are really bad. I've never understood the companiy strategy to reduce skilled people in major European contries while increasing it in Asia. Who is our customer? Regards, -WH-
Comment 04/01/14: I'm a z FTSS (or CTS) who was RA'd. I think IBM is making a mistake in believing that they can depend on Business Partners to sell IBM products for them. For years I've seen people in the field working hard to help sell BP proposals. In one account I am aware of (and I believe there are others) all the selling was done by IBM and the BP just took the order. Now with the co-sell model, more of the selling responsibilities will have to be performed by the BPs because the IBMers who back stopped them are no longer there, and the ones who are left are spread too thin to cover all the customers. And despite what IBM management might want to believe, the BPs follow the path of least resistance. If they are trying to sell IBM storage, and the customer is leaning towards a competitor, with no IBMer working with them and the customer, the BP will gladly and happily sell the competitive product. They have neither the time nor the inclination to invest the resources in a customer that it takes to convince them that IBM has the better product. -anonymous-
Comment 04/01/14: To -MarchRetire?- These folks didn't all retire on 3/31 of their own free will. They were RA'd and were either retirement eligible or were close enough to bridge to it. The fact is, they were RA'd. Calling it retirement is marginally better but I bet if you asked them in private, they would tell you they were RA'd... they were probably glad to get the severance and be gone, although it wasn't on a schedule of their choosing. -LowlySDM-
Comment 03/30/14: Today was my last day at IBM. As I was walking in for the last time, it was sort of strange seeing the weekly group of new hires lining up for New Hire Orientation. IBM doesn't want you unless you are paid a very low salary. Sales teams were swarming the building trying to close stuff for the quarter. Funny that for the other ~89 days of the quarter, you don't see them around, working with such a feverish pace. -Surreal feeling-
Comment 03/30/14: Here is a comment from about 2005 that was posted in one of Alliance's "Archive Visitors Comments" section. Looks like even upper management was not happy about what IBM was doing to its workers:
"As a third line manager in RTP with over 25 years of service with IBM, I find it unconscionable, that I am asked to stand before a group of employees and announce that we are creating a new career position for my operation and how exciting this is for all of us.
What isn't said outright is that there will only be a limited number of these positions open to the current population, and as soon as they are filled you can certainly count on the rest of what Corporate now considers the back office work will move to Brazil. When does all this stop? How long can we hide this from our customers as we have tried to do for the past year? I am afraid that Sam is going to box this company into a position that we will all regret in years to come. -Anonymous-
Editor's note: Alliance@IBM has no way of knowing whether or not these comments are actually from a 3rd level manager. However, our members and supporters have been making these same observations for some time. IBM needs to stop Offshoring...."
Comment 03/30/14: I applied for North Carolina unemployment about 2 weeks after I was laid off (July 2013). I received it for about 3 months and was then notified that I have to REPAY all (~$4K!). Before filing my first claim, I read/researched when I can apply and many sites state that since you didn't receive an ongoing check (just one all inclusive check for the 6 months), then you can claim benefits. When I contacted them, they told me I cannot claim that time because my check included those months. What's going on here? I'm reading more and more about IBMers being able to file claims immediately so are they discriminating against me? They will not budge on this so what do I do??? - ifeelcheated-
Comment 03/30/14: Just got laid off after only 9 months on the job, and when I received my severance checks, surprise surprise, they took out over 2000 because of the mobility package. When I signed the contract , it stated I would have to pay back if I quit or was fired, but they laid me off. Can anyone explain how they can legally do this? -Jobless and now broke-
Comment 03/30/14: "There is really no career planning progression to 90% of the workforce except for the execs."
AMEN! Stultification IBM style? We need a union contract with defined career paths and progressions. -IBMUnionYES-

Comment 03/30/14: "Why was I so gullible to not think the new plan would NOT give me the same or more money at retirement (unless perhaps if interest rates had skyrocketed."
YOU were not the only one hoodwinked by IBM! Well, IBM tried to "sell" the cash balance plan to just about EVERYONE as being a "cost neutral" conversion implementation meaning it didn't hurt the future retiree based on a 6% average yearly return on the cash balance account which IBM supposedly "front loaded". IBM also said they did not do it to save money originally and then said it saved about $200M in "administrative costs" by switching to a cash balance pension plan from the defined benefit plan. P.S. the YTD return for the cash balance plan is now only 1.1%... The formula is USA T-bill rate + 1% still. -da_facts-

Comment 03/30/14: I just had 3 very experienced guys in my dept. retire today on 3/31/2014. 1 seemed overjoyed while 2 others did not seem too happy about it. But I have no other information about it. I was wondering if anyone could elaborate on what IBM did here? Thanks. -MarchRetire?-
Comment 03/30/14: Folks are losing their jobs and people are complaining about bonuses. Alliance - why don't you create another forum so people can talk about their bonuses amongst themselves? After all, isn't this forum titled"Job Cuts Reports"? -No_Respect_For_The_Individual-
Alliance reply: We won't be creating any separate forums to talk about bonuses. We do agree with your point, though. However, it might be a way for IBMers to recognize what's more important for all IBMers' future: Organize first and then collectively bargain. Worry about bonuses last.

Comment 03/30/14: IBM can't even communicate details of an RA anymore. And now about the GDP situation: I can see effective COMMUNICATION IS NOT in Ms. Ginni's makeup. She has got to work on being clear to even appear articulate. And unless she gets effective communications crash course lessons right now the Stockholder's Meeting might be interesting to HEAR! I guess IBM HR communications staff suffers the same malady (whoever is left in Armonk for communications besides "Talking Head Doug Shelton"). -anon-
Comment 03/30/14: Corporate America's switch to private health-care exchanges could be a bigger deal than Obamacare. Are you ready for private health-insurance exchanges? Some of the biggest employers in the U.S. "AT&T, DuPont, General Electric, IBM, Time Warner, and Walgreens" have started to shift the management of health-care costs onto their employees. Increasingly, workers must use so-called private health-care exchanges, self-directed marketplaces in which they can select their coverage and pay for it via a contribution from their employer. While small and midsize companies have used such exchanges for years, the giants of Corporate America have only begun to embrace the model in the past year or so as health-care reform has taken hold. -Anon-
Comment 03/30/14: KJ: so IBM bleeds more $ with a "new bonus pay plan" design and implementation. No TDSP in this bonus; not surprised. Do all PBC 2+ qualify? How about those over their midpoint? -Curious-
Comment 03/30/14: I am quickly learning that IBM is not the great company I thought it was. Apparently it was at one time, but that time has passed years ago. It is not the leaders of today's version that brought it down, but rather the Board and the leaders combined over the years with the incentives that drive their success factors that have led to the company we see today. That is hard to reckon with as an employee because besides organizing there is nothing we can do as individuals. Holler and scream all you want at Ginni and her cronies, they are getting paid and congrats from the Board. In fact, they are successfully meeting the Board goals. Our choices - organize or quit. -Concerned IBMer-
Comment 03/30/14: I just wanted to clear up the apparent confusion regarding GDP and raises. There were NO GDP payments this year. The 1 performers will receive a bonus payment, similar to an award, which is why no TDSP option is available. The 1 and 2+ performers will get a pay raise, effective either last pay period in March or first pay period in April. -KJ-
Comment 03/30/14: While many complain about RA, PBCs, GDP, I believe there are even bigger lingering motivation issue with employees. Many of us are struck with same position for years, with managers failing to vacate their positions for decades (until they retire or die). There is really no career planning progression to 90% of the workforce except for the execs. I would say if you are in 30-49 years of age group, Career in IBM is really your career killer. Any alternative views? -Anonymous-
Comment 03/30/14: GDP is to only 1s not to 2+ and was paid on 3/31. Increase (TCR) is effective 4/1 and will show up on 4/15 for all 1s and some 2+s -temp@ibm-
Comment 03/30/14: -Over55- file now in NC and let that jerk NC governor who only gives you 20 weeks unemployment use tax money to have the NC DOL use a stamp and letter to notify you when you are allowed -TarHeeled-
Comment 03/30/14: To Over55, in North Carolina you should apply for unemployment as soon as you can after your last day at IBM. You might have to wait one week, but no longer than that. -under55-
Comment 03/30/14: To Resume Re-tooling Time - I was told I would get a small raise and also as a PBC1 I'm eligible for the GDP, but neither were in the 3/31 paycheck. I think someone said the GDP at least would be in 4/15, to keep it from affecting 1Q financials (but what will keep it from affecting 2Q, the way things are going??). -MoraleInTheToilet-
Comment 03/30/14: Only pbc1 get 6 percent. Pbc2+ do not get anything. Not GDP this year since there was no growth. Assuming that's why 401k deduction was not in it (ibm never matched bonus 401k contribution anyway as far as I know) -pbc1-
Comment 03/30/14: To JazzOrGlobal: They are also doing a lot of "staging around BTV" . People in Vt should be happy someone wants to buy the plant, it's old.. very old and as NPR said probably only has 5 or so good years left anyway. People in BTV should be positioning themselves for an exodus no matter who buys it if they are young enough to do so. I was let go in EFK a few years ago miss the fine workers and friends at IBM, but not IBM . Good luck BTV ! -John-
Comment 03/30/14: To RA'ed in California, you should apply the first work day after your last day of work at IBM. But, make sure that you do include your package dollar amount. It does not impact what your weekly unemployment will total. Also keep in mind that because our unemployment % is below the national average you are only eligible for 26 weeks of payment. You can apply for an extension but they are making peoples lives he ll in qualifying for it now. I was rejected for any extensions when I was RA'd in 2012. I had to appeal and go through hoops multiple times. -RA'd in 2012-
Comment 03/30/14: So, are some SSR's still supposed to be getting RA'd on Monday? Someone mentioned 3/31 as the date, but nothing since. Honestly don't see how we could ever make it with any less than we currently least in my group. -49R SSR-
Comment 03/29/14: Some PBC 2+ get a GDP this year? Really?! I thought Ginni said only PBC 1 get a GDF this year so what is the REAL STORY? Okay, GREAT, if PBC 2+ are eligible now...(?) So Ginni where is some for PBC 2 now then? IBM Management apologists better not be on this UNION forum! -JoePaycheck-
Comment 03/29/14: To -resume-re tooling-. So IBM is still giving the same BS that only one and twos are eligible for a raise. I will assure you Ginni will be getting her bonus and stock options. This farce will continue as long as there is no union. Join the union to stop this corrupt policy in reference to raises. -ANA-
Comment 03/29/14: @ResumeRe-toolingTime, Seriously? It was stated two months ago that only 1's would get any GDP. 2+'s get nadda, Nothing showed in pay stub received covering 3/16-3/31.
@screwed-again, It is not up to IBM to decide how any GDP is allocated. As an employee, YOU, are the one who makes the percentage selection. You are given the opportunity to change allocations via NetBenefits. -Anon-

Comment 03/29/14: Signs of the Burlington plant of being sold are as follows:
1)Global Foundries on site touring with executives.
2)TowerJazz on site, touring with executives.
3)No mention of 2014 PBC submission due on 3/28 in Burlington MFG and engineering.None.
4)Confirmed with colleagues in EFK that all PBC submissions were due Friday 3/28.
5) The fact that all Personal Business Commitments are due by the 1Q in all divisions of IBM is very very interesting.
Based on the ease of transition to an Israeli company, over Saudi's Global Foundries, the match of RF applications, the fact that TowerJazz will be able to corner the market, eliminate it's competitor, and would be in a position to be the #1 supplier of custom RF/SiGe,and CSOI applications (and IBM could get a better price) leads to a logical conclusion TowerJazz will be part of or owning the Burlington site in the near future.
In any event, IBM is selling this plant. It won't be long until we all know the new owners/partners. -JazzOrGlobal-

Comment 03/29/14: Who is behind the data collection from ?? Is this a management troll? -No Trolls please-
Alliance reply: This is not a management troll. We know who it is and discussed this with him.
It is a serious attempt to find out if workers are being blacklisted in RA's.

Comment 03/29/14: To Resume Re-tooling Time: I'm a 2+ and didn't get any increase in my 3/31 paycheck...Unless it is coming as a separate payment on Monday. I think we have heard 6% for PBC1's... that's the % for PBC 2+? -Where's my money-
Comment 03/29/14: Heard today that GDP and the salary increase will be in 3/31 paycheck. Only 1 and 2+ are eligible. And of those not all got an increase. Blamed missed numbers for the limited amount being paid out. IBM spends $Billion$ a year buying back stock - the money is there but just not for the troops who do the work. -Resume Re-tooling Time-
Comment 03/28/14: The OSHA form at Albany NANO was blank until this week. Average number of employees is listed at 151. I wonder if this board had something to do with the report suddenly being posted. -Albany NANO OHSA report-
Comment 03/28/14: So for those lucky few who are getting variable pay this year it appears there is a new name to this bogus bonus and none of it goes to 401K. Which means this bonus is getting taxed at close to 40%. -screwed-again-
Comment 03/28/14: When can we apply for unemployment in CA? Are we eligible on April 1st or after completion of accrued years of service pay? -RA'ed in Califonia-
Comment 03/28/14: Wegman's was rated top supermarket in USA again. Why? They state:
"We have always believed that if you meet the needs of your employees, they will in turn take care of your customers. That has been the central philosophy of this company for many years, and it has a proven track record of working."
Hear that Ginny? IBM used to believe in that. When it stopped, it started to eat itself alive. -jsb2b-

Comment 03/28/14: Alliance Question: what is the current status of the selling of Burlington site and several buildings in East Fishkill (310, 320, 321)? -no where else to work in this town-
Alliance reply: We don't know. Hearing the same rumors you are.

Comment 03/28/14: Can't get a job after being RA'd? Think you have been blacklisted? -Anon-

Comment 03/28/14: To -Afraid to take flyers-. I was one of those handing out flyers in Fishkill at the main gate and at gate 5. We watched the security cameras track us. I put flyers in the break room and sat at the table to talk. I WAS A FISHKILL EMPLOYEE at the time. I am still an IBM employee with 33 years in the company. I wear an Alliance lanyard for my badge. Most of the people I started with have been resourced and none of them ever went public if they were an Alliance supporter. As long as we are afraid of taking a stand we will get what we deserve. If they decide to RA me at least I can say I tried to help my fellow employees. I now mentor new hires to get their contacts in the industry, polish the resume and get out. -Still a Public member-
Comment 03/27/14: I am seeing a pattern here of PBC 3 performers being told they were "distracted". Who came up with this plan to use this particular word? Those of you who received the 3, what group are you in - e.g., STG, GBS, GTS? The quota for PBC 3s appears to have gone up this year - in some organizations more than others. Why? To encourage attrition? To avoid severance costs? It is a dirty move. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/27/14: Even if IBM makes their $20 EPS, no IBM resources other than IBM management will make their stated goals in their PBC since all employees are essentially "distracted resources", except maybe Watson which can cognitively keep making gourmet flavored IBM kool-aid for the distracted resources. -da_facts-
Comment 03/27/14: @Anonymous Coward. The ability to copy previous years data into one new PBC has been there for about ten years. -anon-
Comment 03/27/14: -concerned IBMer- Exempt employees can unionize. Most IBM non-management employees should qualify. I'm not well versed on the exact break point but generally management cannot unionize. For non-management there are some restrictions related to how much you control others work load and career but I don't know the details. -anonymous-retiree-
Comment 03/27/14: Comment 03/24/14: How many Persons with a disability(PWD) have been RA'd in the last couple of years or encouraged to go on disability after asking for accommodations? -Anonymous-
I am a PwD and while I was not RA'ed, I left of my own accord in 2011. I could tell I was targeted and I believe the expense of accommodation services I was using was probably one of the factors (but of course, we will never know for sure). There were two PwD's in my department and we were both gone by 2011. In hindsight, leaving was the best move I ever made because multiple people from my old department were RA'ed this time in 2013.
Comment 03/26/14: Look at the top 50 CEOs rated by their employees, Ginny why aren't you setting our company goals to make the list? Oh, wait $20 EPS is more important.
-Wrong priorities-
Comment 03/26/14: X86ers TUPE If you have a email outlining your in scope to move to Lenovo there us not much you can do It's a lockdown meaning you can't apply for jobs or take any severance packages Your IBM pension I Believe will be frozen on the day you become a Lenovo employee 1st Nov -Joe-
Comment 03/26/14: I'm not 100% About the 2 yr thing but I think I do know that your seniority will transfer over no issue ..... I know cause I was part of the first sale (thinkpad). -lenovo guy-
Comment 03/26/14: There are good sources at BTV claiming another layoff is coming soon. Good luck sounds like 300 + or - -Free@last-
Comment 03/26/14: Wow, so the PBC tool now asks if you want to copy the prior years goals for this year. That's should be blatantly obvious that it's a scam..... -Anonymous Coward-
Comment 03/26/14: I don't care about not getting a bonus (although they shouldn't be giving it to anyone). The bonus is for if we exceed the stated goals. I budget each year assuming I'll get nothing. The persistent lack of MBA or even cost of living / inflation annoys me more. The market is pretty hot, even if IBM isn't. That's why I quit for a ~20% bump in salary. -Moved on-
Comment 03/26/14: "anonymous", You are correct. Jobs can be at risk when trying to organize into a Union. That is especially true in a company like IBM that does not value the human resource. That drives some questions: The National Labor Relations Board typically oversees "serious" organizing efforts. One of their roles is to determine what categories of employee are 'eligible' to organize. Have we compiled a list of job categories or identified the type of employee that could organize? In other organizations the line is typically drawn between Exempt and Non-Exempt employees. But IBM seems to treat everyone as Exempt from overtime pay. Second question or offer, I am willing to do more than simply send money. People need to be protected so they can keep their homes and feed their families and at least exist on the lowest level of Maslow's Hierarchy, what can I do to help? -concerned IBMer-
Comment 03/26/14: In North Carolina when do you file for Unemployment? After 6 months or now. -Over55-
Comment 03/26/14: Can anyone who is affected by the x86 server sale to Lenovo reply to this question: I read that if you are offered a job with Lenovo, you must take it, else you must quit/retire and you can cannot work for Lenovo or IBM for 2 years. Is this true? And most importantly, if you transfer to Lenovo, what happens to your pension if you are on the old IBM pension plan? And what happens to your years of service, vacation days per year, etc. -x86ers-
Comment 03/26/14: To samtheman and Alliance: I was RA'd in 2013 as one of those 'distracted' workers. While I support a union you all have to understand why it's so hard to come forward and go public while working at IBM in support of a union, management does not need anymore ammunition to tag us for dismissal. I can only speak for IBM workers in the Hudson Valley, the IBM jobs we have provide a very generous salary that cannot be matched in many other places. We have lived here all our lives, bought homes, raised our families. This is why drawing unwelcome management attention in support of a union keeps us away?we are willing to keep taking it on the chin so we can afford to keep our homes and feed our families. I am in support of a union but am tired of the comments for being too 'weak' to unionize. I would have been willing to canvas the entire Poughkeepsie site to get folks to join, but can you guarantee that I won't come across that one employee who would go to my manager and blow the whistle on me? I will always put that paycheck first to support my family. I challenge any other older worker like myself who had 30-35+ years and was let go. How is life now? Can you survive on your pension in the Hudson Valley? Wish you still had your full-time paycheck? I was not weak but trying to survive. This is why back in the day when folks were on site handing out union fliers we were too afraid to take one for fear of being seen taking one by some snitch or manager. -anonymous-
Alliance reply: We're sorry for your job loss. There have been many IBMers that have lost their job, anyway, whether they were organizing openly, or not. Most every member that has done organizing inside IBM has risked their job. There just isn't any other way to gather people together and fight back. We DO understand your situation. We have several members that feel the same as you do. Those members have joined Alliance and paid dues and continue to send us information about what is going on in IBM; especially during mass firings. This is a tremendous help. If you can support us with a donation or a $5.00/month associate membership, that would help too. Thank you for your support.

Comment 03/26/14: The only INNOVATION left in IBM is how they report RAs! Now IBM leaves out the age of those RAed (to avoid age discrimination), position level/band (to show they are not going after eliminating specific skill sets or experienced people, see age discrimination) and numbers RAed (so they can RA 500 or more at a site and not report it as per WARN Act). -sad'n'true-
Comment 03/25/14: I was RA'd in 2002. Since then I have come to this site for information. There is a highly recognizable pattern prior to and following an RA. First fear and then outrage resulting. I silently endured a prior co-workers statement following their RA, "they got rid of valuable employees this time". That is the crux of the biscuit. Earlier RA's in my opinion produced more outrage, IBMers are becoming trained to accept annual or semi-annual RA's. -JoePal-
Comment 03/25/14: Page 78 of IBM's 2013 Annual Report shows that for 2013 IBM had a total revenue of $99.8 billion. And after expenses of taxes, development, research, interest, etc, IBM had a net income of $16.4 billion for 2013. So IBM now says that after making a profit of $16 billion, they can't afford to give contributing employees a bonus or raise? For those of you who have not joined the union yet because you are not sure what the union can do for you, let me ask you; how has not joining worked out for you? Please join now. Many people ask, when will there be a union vote; Keep in mind, IBM will hire union busters if there ever is a vote. Why not just join now? If everyone joined, we would not even need a vote and we would all be getting our bonuses this year. Stop complaining, reading these comments and doing Nothing! JUST JOIN. The IBM Annual Report can be found here: -JustJoin-
Comment 03/25/14: In response to Cassandra. It is just as well that IBM no longer offers insurance to those eligible for Medicare. Why? Because the IBM insurance is SECONDARY to Medicare.
Example: I was RA'ed last July. I immediately continued with COBRA, with the idea of signing up for Medicare immediately before COBRA coverage ended. Wrong move! I had a medical problem for which I tried to use my COBRA, and the claim was denied three times. I called IBM and they told me that I should have used Medicare, because IBM COBRA was "secondary". I said that I have not signed up yet for Medicare. They said that IBM ASSUMES that I had signed up for Medicare. Claim denied. Net result is that I paid for six months of COBRA and was never able to use it to file a claim. Best advice: if you worked for IBM sign up for Medicare as soon as you lose your job. Don't let them do it to you twice. -namecnassianer-

Comment 03/25/14: An Open Letter to IBM's Open Letter. Last week, IBM published an "open letter" about "government access to data," where it tried to assure its customers that it's not handing everything over to the NSA. Unfortunately, the letter leaves open more questions than it answers. -Anon-
Comment 03/25/14: The disbelief, anger, and the "why me, never seen it coming" of the recent RA seems to have cooled again...Why does this always seem to happen? If those left would be in disbelief and angry at their present situation and future uncertainty and refuse to resign to the sentiment of "woe is me" and organize, positive measures can happen! If anything the feelings should not cool, but those left around (this time) should not just cower and submit to IBM management but JOIN THE ALLIANCE NOW! -IBMUnionYES-
Comment 03/24/14: How many Persons with a disability(PWD) have been RA'd in the last couple of years or encouraged to go on disability after asking for accommodations? -Anonymous-
Comment 03/24/14: IBM India Battles Fraud Amid Scramble To Save Its $2.5B Airtel Contract IBM India Battles Fraud Amid Scramble To Save Its $2.5B Airtel Contract -Anon-

Comment 03/24/14: Another point for those RA'd to consider. When you turn 65, IBM forces you to Medicare for your primary health insurance. If your spouse is covered by you and younger than you, s/he will be dropped from the IBM plan along with you, but will be unable to be eligible for Medicare until s/he turns 65. -More Health Insurance Woes-
Comment 03/24/14: mar 31st, 2014 I am being laid off from IBM under the Broadridge Account. I beleive I am being singled out by my ex manager. Prior to working for IBM I was with ADP, never written up in 25 yrs, now 1 year/10 mths with IBM, I get 2 bad PBC ratings -Anonymous-
Comment 03/24/14: Any word on the TSS RAs? -Jacob-
Comment 03/24/14: A friend in Ottawa reports many farewell lunches in the weeks since the RA passed them by... presumably all people who hoped to leave with a package, but needed to leave in any case. (Ottawa was clobbered in the 2013 RA.) -15yrsandcounting-
Comment 03/23/14: Comment 03/20/14: A couple of months ago (2013) my manager, in a team meeting spoke about a new compensation package that was to begin in the new year. Has anyone heard another mention of it, or is that gone too, like our GDP. -GinniGinniWhy-
Ha!! You know as well as any of us that once something has been taken away by ibm, it never, ever returns.
-VT Woodchuck-
Comment 03/21/14: Look out folks, the RAs that were on hold pending the fab sale are back in plan now. Managers need to load names into the tool by March 26 and employees will be notified in mid-April. Big cuts for affected organizations, in the US and elsewhere. -RAed-
Comment 03/21/14: It is a little more complex who has the FHA than over 40 in 1999. I was over 40 in 1999 and am on the prior pension plan but I also have an FHA. My husband has the prior pension plan and no FHA. He is a few years older and a few more years with IBM. By the way that was the year the alliance saved my pension. I was cut from the prior pension for several months and then, I am sure due to the uproar from the alliance at that time, I was reinstated. Thank-you! -StillAtIBM-
Comment 03/21/14: To anonymous-Ant- if you had the old (Defined Benefit) pension you probably had the old medical plan too, not the FHA. No I have the old pension plan(monthly annuity) and FHA. When I go to the Fidelity website I can watch the lifetime balance drop by about 900./month!! lol..So it seems like there may have be changes to various retirement rules since I left. -ant-
Comment 03/21/14: I am a retiree since July of 2013. I was a GM, member of the I&VT for many years. I read the comments here, and while I will not debate them, I will say that not every senior leader is / was a money grabbing exec. In fact there were many that remembered old value and lived by them. Treated people with respect and fought for them, always. Pushed back on issues and ensured clients came first. Took the attitude that clients payed our salaries. Not all leaders are categorized as evil, in fact I know many good people remain. -tm-
Comment 03/21/14: New IBM compensation package for next year? LOL It'll be called IBM Pay Remix Plus! You'll all (exempt and non-exempt bands) get paid less since more of you hard earned paycheck with be at risk pay as determined by your PBC and IBM management subjective whims. -IttyBittyMachines-
Comment 03/21/14: I read this forum and everyone is discussing after the fact (RA'ed) and not looking at what organizing can do. Those still left will have to unionize or you'll be here making the same after the fact comments or complaints. -samtheman-
Comment 03/21/14: As IBM exists the hardware arena, let us pause a moment and remember RCA, GE, UNIVAC, Burroughs, Honeywell, DEC, CRAY, KODAK, XEROX, Motorola, HITACHI and most recently fading HP.
IBM essentially invented the role of the PC in businesses only to lose the market and sell the business. Once IBM led the industry in communications controllers . . . gone. Sent men to the moon and back safely . . . no matter, not enough profit in Federal Systems Division and feds too hard to deal with. Led the industry in retail POS systems . . . SOLD. Premiere provider of check processing systems and competitive in other banking hardware . . . checks were to be obsolete by 1990 . . . NOT. Have long history of leading data storage technology and solutions . . . IBM is now #3 and will likely lose more market share along with database licenses due to sell of a large part of the server business. Now some analysts are suggesting that the chip manufacturing business is next.
Comment 03/21/14: FYI, IBM no longer offers medical insurance to retirees who are eligible for Medicare (including people on disability). No prescription coverage, no Medigap supplemental medical policies, no dental, no vision. Some people get a annual HSA contribution from the company, but IBM has an arrangement with an outside insurance broker to sell us private insurance, and you only get the HSA if you buy a private insurance policy from that broker (even if you can find a cheaper price for an identical policy on the open market). There's a lot of discussion about these changes on the retiree comments page - the changes took effect in January 2014, and the broker was originally named Extend Health. I hadn't seen this mentioned explicitly on this page, and it sounds like this may be an unpleasant surprise for a number of people who are retiring in this RA. -Cassandra-
Comment 03/20/14: A couple of months ago (2013) my manager, in a team meeting spoke about a new compensation package that was to begin in the new year. Has anyone heard another mention of it, or is that gone too, like our GDP. -GinniGinniWhy-
Comment 03/20/14: Re: FHA - You can only use it to make payments for IBM defined insurance offerings. That means you can not use it for COBRA insurance IE Oxford. Keep up use by selecting IBM dental and or visual coverage. -Anon-
Comment 03/20/14: Regarding the site OSHA forms people are quoting...Can anyone tell me if the number on the form is the total number of employed people on the site (IBMers, supplementals, contract employees, workers for other companies like janitorial staff, cafeteria staff, etc., employees of companies who rent space, etc.) or if the number is just employees of the IBM corporation? -SoftKitty-
Comment 03/20/14: It's worse than you think on those who lost their FHA account due to ineligibility. If you don't make the eligibility rules IBM has set for your FHA account, not only do you forfeit the balance, but you also lose any opportunity to buy into IBM retiree health insurance, even with your own money! Sadly, this is a hard, cold fact in today's IBM. -FHA is Not Yours, It's IBM's-
Comment 03/20/14: "I think if you have 25 years or more, or are over 55 you automatically get the option to bridge." I had 25 years when I got RAed, my empty IBM Quarter Century book with no letters in it, a severance check 15% lighter since I was recently"pay remixed", and no notice from my IBM Director that I even existed, and no bridge. I was not yet 50 years old. -I'veBeenMaligned-
Comment 03/20/14: -Ant- if you had the old (Defined Benefit) pension you probably had the old medical plan too, not the FHA. You were born at the right time(!) (over 40 years old in 1999) since if you were born later you could have screwed into the cash balance plan (a legal connived pension heist) and FHA (basically a FUTURE HELL ACCOUNT that IBM reneged on lifetime retirement medical coverage that they promised all employees). To get the FHA you have to be 55 years old AND have at least 15 years of IBM employment or added bridge to retirement if you had a moral FLM to get it for you. I can't stress enough that IBM can take the FHA away at any time. Besides it is funded like with poker chips, not real $money$, a"notional" account. IBM think they only lose their job with an RA. They usually lose much more than they realize!!! -anonymous-
Comment 03/20/14: The OSHA form 300A dated 1/15/13 posted on the IBM Poughkeepsie bulletin board cites avg annual number of employees as 3750. -Observer-
Comment 03/20/14: Re: FHA account. All should be aware, as IBM does not tell this outright that you forfeit your FHA balance in total if you are without medical insurance after retirement for even one minute. This information is available on the Fidelity website but it is hidden in a 'library'. Most of Fidelity's admins do not know about this but when pressed will find out and show you where to see it on the site. Imagine your rage when you have been stripped of your FHA because of a hidden fact you had no reason to suspect. This applies to all retirees not just RA's employees. -Chris s/n823964-
Comment 03/20/14: I just saw the latest opinion survey results. It's interesting that they report the results of your department vs the"Best of IBM" and vs the "Industry." What they don't show is how larger organizations and/or IBM overall did. Obviously, the results are so bad that the company isn't willing to share the information. It's not much "news" if one department looks bad, but they don't want word leaking out that there is a pervasive morale problem. Apparently, our 1st line managers are supposed to fix this problem. Good luck with that, Ginny. -Ed M-
Comment 03/20/14: Ed - "Be Careful Out There" was correct. Your information packet is not a signed commitment - you don't get THAT until your exit interview (as your signing that you won't sue). If you read the packet, it's very clear that IBM CAN pull it back at any time before you leave. The reason doesn't have to be acceptable to the employee and continued employment doesn't even have to be in the same job, at the same level, or pay. Be VERY Careful. -Ed M-
Comment 03/20/14: There is a Supreme Court case pending to decide whether severance payments are subject to SS and Medicare taxes. The IRS (obviously) says Yes, but it's a question of whether the payments are effectively wages, or are they settlements. (They're subject to Income tax, either way). A decision is expected as early as June. For those being fired now, pay attention; for those in the past, you might need to file a refund request with the IRS if your amendment window is running out.
-Ed M-
Comment 03/20/14: IBM Mexico job cuts -anon-
Comment 03/20/14: -Dazed_&_Confused- As far as retirement medical coverage is concerned there are no legal protections if you do not have a contract. This means IBM can make as many arbitrary changes as they wish or cancel the coverage altogether. As this issue applies not to employees but retirees I think claiming age discrimination is impossible. Personally I would not be surprised to see IBM drop all retiree medical funding sooner than later. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 03/20/14: What is the current known country-wise count of RA'd employees? If that's not available, what is the total global RA'd count? -anon-
Alliance reply: Those numbers are still being counted.
Comment 03/19/14: FWIW, I had the same experience with the FHA. I was within 90 days of being eligible for the retirement bridge. My 1st line went forward with a legitimate business case to move my end date, which would still have been within the RA window. It was denied immediately. A co-worker will turn 54 with 30 yrs service within the RA window. She was also denied am extension to reach a retirement bridge. -FleetingHealthAccount-
Comment 03/19/14: Link on home page on RH side does not work. The link for "IBM not required to disclose age" does not work -Jon Doe-
Alliance reply: Thanks for letting us know. I discovered an "errant" character in the link 'string'. I fixed it and it worked correctly for me, afterward. I couldn't send you an email to thank you, so I posted your comment to say thanks. BTW.. We appreciate that you were visiting our front page. Many of our visitors just come to this forum/board and never see the rest of what we have to offer. Please "peruse" the whole web site, at your convenience. There is a lot of valuable information here.

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Comment 03/19/14: To Dazed_&_Confused- I left via RA in 2009. I was 52. The"bridge to retirement" gave me 30 years service. I have the old pension and the FHA. I don't know if there have been any changes to the rules since "09. As of 2009, the Bridge, was automatic for anyone who was within 1 year of retirement eligibility. Whether that eligibility was reached by years of service OR age. -Ant-
Comment 03/19/14: Thanks for the comments. Still assessing next steps if any exist to preserve FHA. I think if there are many of us in a similar situation lodging a complaint w/ the department of labor won't hurt while getting some attention. Whether anything pans out or not is up in the air. At a minimum we can be on the offense and do what we can to put IBM in an uncomfortable position as they are us. I vaguely recall this in 1999 though thought 30yrs of service trumped all. FHA= 15 yrs of service& 55yrs old along w/ the Pension Old vs New Plan w/ those 40yrs old & 10yrs w/ IBM getting to choose plans.
I am in the group where in 1999 I was 37yrs old w/ 15yrs of service. So I was forced into the new plan (-$600K+ in value lost) even w/ more seniority then those w/ 40/10. So if IBM can change the rules then "it is what it is". The concern is if in changing the rules there is an "age bias" or "age discrimination" that would violate dept or labor law. Couple that with what I would call predatory "herding/culling" of older workers. Workers that cost them more in benefits & salary. Using PBCs in an unethical way to herd & cull older workers. Being "At Will" is one thing, though have they crossed a legal line? All we need is one 1st/2nd line to come clean w/ the process. Certainly they would want a clear conscience before ultimately meeting their maker.
Alliance reply: First, Age bias or discrimination is very hard to prove. It's been tried before with limited results. The legal costs are sometimes very high, too.
As far as the "Pension Heist" and the subsequent change by IBM Execs to allow 35,000 IBMers to get the choice between the "old" pension and the Cash Balance in 1999; If it wasn't for Alliance@IBM, that decision most likely would have never been made. Again, with "At Will Employment" comes the acceptance by the employee, of IBM's practices and rules. Could they have "crossed a legal line"? Maybe. But the best way for IBMers in the US to get guarantees with a contract is to organize. Unions consist of many workers and a company must bargain fairly, according to States' and Federal Labor law, and continue to abide by those laws as long as that contract is in force. Individuals fighting back alone or with just filing "class action" suits does not guarantee anything; much less making any IBM manager adopt a "clear conscience". Instead, fight back through organizing and encourage IBMers past and present to join Alliance@IBM. The comments here, that helped you, have been paid for by Alliance members' donations and dues. Please consider a donation or becoming an associate member. Thank you for your support!

Comment 03/19/14: -Dazed & Confused- are you calling a 1 year leave of absence what was actually a 1 year 'bridge' so that you could qualify for full retirement benefits when it comes to FHA, etc.? One of my team members received a 1 year bridge when he was RA'd to make him eligible. -RA'd IBMer-
Comment 03/19/14: To -MoraleInTheToilet- I was RA-ed in September 2013, and I was also offered the 1 year LOA/bridge to retirement. I think if you have 25 years or more, or are over 55 you automatically get the option to bridge. I'm not sure what it buys you if you are on one of the newer cash balance pension plans, but it does permanently put on your record that you went on LOA instead of being RA-ed. Maybe that helps if you are job seeking and don't want to say you were laid off. I dunno. -miss_understanding-
Comment 03/19/14: I am gonna have to disagree with -Be Careful Out There-. I have a signed separation document from IBM saying my last day is on 03/28. They can't just say the documents we signed is void and we will retract the RA offer entirely or fire you. All I have to do is work until 03/28. I have all the right not to sign another document and stick to that one I've already signed. -Ed-
Comment 03/19/14: "I received separation agreement my manager says I have to sign or not get my Sev Pay. The documents mentions age discrimination multiple times, will signing this hurt me later when dealing with IBM. Everything is in IBM's favor."
Yes, it is all in IBM's favor. Separation pay is given with the proviso that you will not sue IBM for wrongful anything. When I was a manager I had an employee who was fired for a drug issue. HR advised me to give him separation in return for the protection against a future lawsuit. If you think they're giving you "what they owe you" or doing something out of the kindness of their hearts, forget it. It's cheaper than defending against a lawsuit, that's all. -Research RA-

Comment 03/19/14: @Hope is Gone: they did away with "Respect for the Individual", so they can call you whatever names they want. We want names. Which execs have a limited vocabulary that consists mostly of 4 letter words? DOes anyone call the execs to the carpet for creating a hostile work environment? -WeWillSurvive-
Comment 03/19/14: I got out on LTD in 2001. I saw all this coming. I got hired in 1985 and worked what was called GTD. I am so grateful for my journey. I know it hard out there and I pray for all those in BTV who are still left. -Got Out-
Comment 03/19/14: to -Dazed_&_Confused- what is that about the "permitted 1yr leave of absence"? Does everyone have that ability if RA'd? I'm worried because I'm over 55, but only just hitting 14 years, so if RA'd I'd like to play that card to reach 15 years and be eligible for my Future Health Account, etc. -MoraleInTheToilet-
Comment 03/19/14: More cuts in Australia. Dozens going by March 31. IBM acts like it is going out of business.. clients are getting sick of having named resources in contracts RA'ed. Its like IBM doesn't want to be in this market anymore:
Amenities and perks have disappeared.
Stressed and worried bosses
Hushed meetings.
Departing staff aren't replaced.
Plunging stock price and bad press.
Risk taking is discouraged.
Salespeople are freaking out.
No pay rise.
The best people are leaving. Low morale. -Anon-

Comment 03/19/14: In BTV no promotions no bonus pay no raises BUT they spend 90K putting in new floor tiles in the lobby when the carpet that was there was fine very puzzling place we all are wondering why -puzzled-
Comment 03/18/14: To add to -sby_willie's- post, one doesn't want to have a vote w/o a strong majority support because if the vote fails, another election can't be held for an entire year. I recall hearing a case where, during that year, the company stripped most if not all of their employee's benefits. hmmmm.... Sounds to me like ibm's got it easy - their workers haven't even made it to the vote in 14 years while ibm continues to rip them off. -Dave-
Comment 03/18/14: "Is this not a form or age bias or age discrimination (to deny IBM retirement medical benefits)?"
Tough to prove in USA Court though sure sounds like it. Could it be IBM is not releasing the ages of those RAed because of this? 30 years employment in IBM does not make you eligible for all retirement benefits anymore in this IBM.
Comment 03/18/14: -Dazed_&_Confused-: This is FHA (Future Hell Account) for those that are not 55 years old when they are RAed from IBM. The Alliance has made this clear in the past that you need to be AT LEAST 55 years old AND (N.B. NOT OR!) have at least 15 years to qualify for the Future Health Account which is used to buy from notional funds retirement insurance from IBM. The similar thing happened for those who were 39 years old with 21 years of IBM employment that were forced to the cash balance pension in 1999. Those that were 40 years old with only 10 years of IBM employment got a choice between the traditional IBM defined benefits pension plan or cash pittance heist.. -da_facts-
Comment 03/18/14: -Dazed & Confused- Being an at will employee, IBM sets all the rules. These FHA rules have been documented since 1999. The time has long passed to start complaining now. It does amaze me how many IBMers don't understand the rules laid down by IBM long ago especially regarding the FHA. I always knew 2 milestones were very important. Age 55 with at least 15 yearswas first and 30 years was second. I am sorry to see this happen to you. Maybe if we had organized over the past 15 years it wouldn't be. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 03/18/14: -Dazed_&_Confused- I retired with 31 years and age 51 and am using my FHA and have access to IBM group plans once the FHA runs out. I am on the old pension plan but don't remember if that made a difference. The key was my 30 years of service which trumped the age/service requirement. Unless it has changed you should be eligible for the FHA at 30 years. Who is telling you that you are not eligible and why? If it is HR try another person or supervisor. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 03/18/14: Dazed & Confused: yes, it's a cruel joke along with the cash balance. You must be 55 yrs old and retirement eligible to receive the future health account dollars set aside. So, in addition to losing your hard earned traditional pension, you'll have no health care bennies. -Anon-
Comment 03/18/14: RAd in 2013 w/in less than a year of 30 yrs. Will be able to retire at 30yrs following the permitted 1yr leave of absence. At the 30yrs though I will be 52 and am told that I "..will forgo any/all access to the $25K+ funds on account already (set aside from age 40-50) along with participation in IBM Retiree Benefits at "group rates". How is IBM able to approve folks 55 (& over) w/ 15 yrs of service access to these funds and deny someone age 52 w/ 30 years of service from these benefits? Decision is purely age based not recognizing seniority.
Is this not a form or age bias or age discrimination? The 30 years used to be the "trump card" and still is to some extent for one to declare as "retirement eligible". Wondering if this is something that can be reported to the US Department of Labor?
Comment 03/18/14: To -Ed-, who is getting advice that he can't be forced to work an extra week to close the quarter...
Ed, I don't know if your adviser is an actual attorney, but you're getting bad information. While no one can force you to come to work, IBM CAN retract the RA offer entirely. They CAN schedule you to work that week. They CAN fire you "with cause" if you don't show up for work that week (meaning you get no RA package AND no Unemployment Ins). Even if you DO come to work that week, they CAN fire you anyway with no package. You have very few rights and an attorney should know better. Be careful.
-Be Careful Out There-
Alliance reply: Also extremely important for ALL IBMers to know: You are an "At Will Employee". See this page for more information re: At will Employment ->
Also remember that when IBM makes their own rules, IBM can break their own rules and there's little an employee can do about that; since the State or Federal Labor Dept. has no jurisdiction over company rules *unless* those company rules conflict with those labor laws.

Comment 03/18/14: UnionGuy is right. IBM management would want us to call a vote right now since we don't have a majority of signed (but names kept anonymous so IBM can't find out who signs) union cards to win the vote and get collective bargaining agreement at this moment. A failed, defeated union vote serves IBM management to their betterment. This ask for a vote has been done many times before on various boards and blogs by some union busters and IBM corporate apologists as a basic labor taunt. The Alliance will be ever patient, continue to organize, and wait for the right time when it comes for a vote. -sby_willie-
Alliance reply: While there certainly have been taunts by union busters, we also get serious questions about "the vote". Most do not understand the difficult process of getting a vote and the right to negotiate. We continue to educate and inform.

Comment 03/18/14: -Over55- maybe sign the RA separation agreement with your date of birth (DOB) after your signed name? just an idea.. -anonymous2-
Comment 03/18/14: To -da_facts- : You're correct about the GDP Holdback. I was with Big Blew the year they instituted this. We got no raises that year. (The beginning of the 'no raise for you this year shennigans), but we also didn't get the GDP, as it began the following year. So YES!!! That GDP crap is all a shame. It was a new way for IBM to keep your salary from increasing. If IBM gives someone a 5% GDP, that is a one-time thing. BUT... If you used that same 5% monies as a raise it now becomes the new baseline from which all future raises are based against. This was just another cost savings measure. I am always amazed that people are so happy with the GDP. That was part of your salary anyway. and IBM could say anything they want in order to take it away from you. -dun-4-
Comment 03/18/14: I received separation agreement my manager says I have to sign or not get my Sev Pay. The documents mentions age discrimination multiple times, will signing this hurt me later when dealing with IBM. Everything is in IBM's favor. -Over55-
Comment 03/18/14: "would it hurt to pull a vote ???" Strange as it sounds right now IBM management would want us to. Support, along with timing, is everything. As the Alliance has explained it is more than a voting process and CWA with the AFL/CIO would want to make sure Local 1701 gets certified as a collective bargaining unit. A vote could be called at 30% minimum signups/memberships I believe but ideally one doesn't call a vote until at least 50.01% card membership is met. If we lose the election then I believe we cannot set another vote for a few years even though we might have 100% signups by then. I also wish we had gotten the Employee Free Choice Act passed. That would make the cause easier for each of us and the Alliance! As you see it is a tough fight but one with patience and persistent is well worth winning! -UnionGuy-
Comment 03/18/14: -Boned_By_Blew-: very good observation! Basically the GDP was a pay "holdback": IBM kept part of your pay you already should have earned as "competitive pay" and then disburses it later in the next year. Not too many IBMers viewed the GDP as "performance based pay" since it was all based on the PBC process which is a just a budget target exercise by management to weed out and discourage workers: a terrible process and continued failed process instituted by Gerstner. Now IBM will do a holdback to it's supposedly best performers. That is not setting a good example! -da_facts-
Comment 03/17/14: Union campaigns begin to make a difference in Bangladesh...
Hmmmm... What a concept, eh? -BlueEyedBlindness-

Comment 03/17/14: I retired 2 years ago at 30 years, had more than enough of a company in decline. My wife still works at IBM and I thus get to hear what is still going on. And things are clearly far worse. I listen to calls with Executives using abusive profanity directed at employees and its clear to me that IBM has lost all that it once had. I wish I could suggest hope but unless something radical happens, IBM is on the road to doom. Great job, Rometty, a failure. -Hope Is Gone-
Comment 03/17/14: As an IBM stockholder I voted my shares today. I voted against the Executive Compensation Plan and several directors, including Ginni and a couple of directors who were CEO's of companies that filed for bankruptcy. I doubt my voteswill change anything, but it made me feel better. Does anyone know how or when the severance pay will be paid out? -Anonymous-
Comment 03/17/14: GDP payouts for PBC 1's are getting 6% as said by Ginni. Slap in the face to anyone who busted their rumps to get a 2+. This was a mistake by Ginni and IBM. It will end up costing them in the end. -bigblusea-
Comment 03/17/14: Here is what I sent management when the 401(k) holdback came out. I didn't send it to them, but I really wanted to:
Dear IBM:
Beginning January 1, 2013, I am changing the timing of my IBM "over and above effort and caring" from 24x7 to an annual contribution at the end of the year. The amount and quality of the work IBM receives - which makes my results among the best in the workforce - is not changing. I must be employed on December 15 of each year for IBM to receive my contribution for that year. For eligible projects, my effort and caring contribution will be deposited to the project on December 31, 2013 (and on the last business day of each subsequent year). IBM contributions to projects are not affected by these changes. In the event I choose to leave the company IBM will receive their effort and caring contribution on my last working day, based on the eligible effort and caring credit accumulated during that calendar year. -Anonymous-

Comment 03/17/14: Just got of the phone with my legal counselor to discuss the latest IBM offer to force me to work an extra week to close the quarter. I was offered a package 2 weeks ago and my last day of work was supposed to me 03/28/14. Now they want me to work an extra week "to close the quarter" or I won't get my severance pay. It is confirmed that IBM has no right to force anyone to work a single min extra. Unless you feel they are compensating you fairly for the extra time you lose finding another job. -Ed-
Comment 03/17/14: Flipping burgers is way more honest and respectable work than MANY of these executives do. Seriously. It's amazing what a false sense of their own value many of them have. How does one get so arrogant with nothing to show for it? Most are a bunch of frat boys who cheated their way through college and happen to be part of an exclusive network by luck and family connections. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/17/14: For all those fellow souls who were freed from this mentally abusive relationship aka IBM employment, be sure to make IBM pay you all that you have earned. Eg, if you were forced to not take all your vacation last year so as to support your customer IBMs policy is to have these excess vacation days be applied to the following year as immediately earned. Ie, you were forced to work on 2 vacation days in 2013 translates into Jan 1 2014 you have already earned two of your max vacation days. For someone like me who has been at IBM over 15 years this translates into 7 days of earned vacation by the end of March.
Unused/excess vacation
You may take your accrued vacation before you have earned it. However, vacation taken before it?s earned is considered a salary advance. If you separate from IBM before you earn the vacation you have taken, IBM will seek reimbursement for the value of the unearned days.
You're required to take all earned vacation each year. Vacation earned but not used is considered excess and will result in a reduction to the maximum number of new days you can earn the following year.
For example: In 2007, an employee uses 10 of 15 earned vacation days. As a result, the employee will retain the five unused days in 2008 but will earn only 10 new days instead of 15 in 2008, so the total is still 15 days.
Updated on 02 May 2012 -Anonymous-

Comment 03/17/14: Has anyone had difficulty finding a job after an RA action. Do you know your status in regards to your ability to return to IBM? Have you heard rumors of your status? Sorry to be cryptic, but with snoops out there, I am holding my ace -Toadstool-
Comment 03/17/14: "State-IBM jobs agreement forged in 2013, not 2014"
So if contractors were included in the IBM employee national job figure back in 2013 with NY State I never imagined an IBM PO (Purchase Order) is a job! That is all a contractor is to IBM. Nothing permanent, just fleeting, and basically unaccounted (able). RAs anyone? So the new 2014 has got to be the same. -da_facts-

Comment 03/17/14: Does anyone know if this is the first time GDP Payout has been nullified? I have been with IBM since 2004 and have received a meager distribution every year, until now. I might add that the amount that I received broke down to about $7.00 per hour, based on the mandatory 10% overtime rule that IBM imposes on their salaried"resources". I believe the new precedent for GDP payout going forward will be "1" performers only, and we all know how many "1's" there are. This is another, IBM takeaway ploy to cut costs for the Roadkill, similar to pay your own cell phone, pay your own home phone line, pay your own ISP, annual 401k matching contribution, annual increase in HC premiums, etc, etc. Yep, GDP is gone forever for the 2 & 2+ population. -Boned_By_Blew-
Comment 03/16/14: would it hurt to pull a vote ??? you might get more than you think if workers were insured it was in confidence. just thinking. -just vote-
Alliance reply: As we have said before, we can not just call for a vote. There is a process through the (Federal law) US labor department that must be followed. A lot of requirements; the main one being we have to prove, through signups, that there is sufficient interest in a union to call for a vote in an appropriate bargaining unit. No such sufficient interest exists anywhere inside IBM.

Comment 03/16/14: To: Chris s/n 823964, I could not agree with you more. I have been retired for several years. I did not have any problems. I have read the after the fact comments on this site as they pertain to unfair treatment. All have known these facts for a long time, and yet not many sign up. In the past I had concerns about unions, however now as I watch the practices of many large business's I must and have changed my perspective to organizing and unionizing. -ZioGiorgio-
Comment 03/16/14: GDP pay out in 2014: "That it would be paid around April 1st".
IBM will pay it out when it is convenient for them whenever that will be. If the PBC 1s get upset they have to wait and wait IBM doesn't give a rat$ a$$. Of course it will not be paid out this month since that would hurt the 1st QTR results with less profits.
Comment 03/16/14: Another blow to IBM's cloud plans. WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Navy is shifting large amounts of data to the Amazon Web Services cloud, and expects the move to produce huge savings.
"We are in the process of putting most of our public-facing data in an Amazon cloud service,"
said Terry Halvorsen, the Chief Information Officer of the Department of the Navy, in a keynote at Meritalk's Data Center Brainstorm event Thursday. Halvorsen said the move could save the Navy as much as 60 percent versus the cost of managing that data in its own data centers.
Comment 03/16/14: "Morale is at an alltime low at. Btv. Nigel, no raises, don't like your job, go flip burgers McDonald's. This from our site executive. -Joe-"
I recall Caddingan saying we could go stock shelves with milk at the nearest grocery store if we weren't happy in Essex. That sneering comment did no go over well with the crowd. A mob mentality was much closer than he could have ever imagined it -VT Woodchuck-

Comment 03/16/14: 75 RA in Bromont,Canada last week. -Anon-
Comment 03/15/14: To the PBC3s and the "distracted" -- OINKMONK has inserted "wiggle room" into the PBC rankings in the form of the following statement: "I understand that my management will assess me based on not only WHAT I achieved in my Business Goals above, but also on HOW I achieved them, as evidenced by professionally demonstrating: [blah, blah, blah]." Despite superior performance relative to that of other colleagues, management can invent a reason -- like "distracted" -- to hand you the PBC3 required by their PBC quota system. -Liberated-
Comment 03/15/14: -Joe- and -nwzimmer-: This site executive sounds eerily close to the same sentiment that king IBM scandal ex-Sr. VP Robert Moffatt told some IBMers: "..if I wanted loyalty I would get (hinting: hire or keep) a dog.."
Yes, these IBM executives are jerks. And they are playing you all as fools if you believe one word from them! -anonymous-
Comment 03/15/14: To -anon- who addressed me Yes. Of course. I will leave no stone unturned. That I put it up here. You saw it and so will many others. -DGC-
Comment 03/15/14: Just curious. How can the Alliance turn around IBM? How can you stop the layoff's, RA's? In EVERY union contract I have ever read (clearly to all) "management reserves the right to make decisions about workforce needs, the right to determine start and stop times as well as shift and workdays." How can the Alliance deal,with that power clause? -Questioning-
Alliance reply: Yes, the management rights clause is powerful, but the contract is a document that has input from the workers and management and then signed off on by both. The contract could have clauses that seek alternatives to job cuts. Lay offs could be temporary and workers called back. Overtime and use of contractors while regular employees get terminated would also be looked at.
The resource action process taking place at IBM is a mess. Workers are targeted for reasons not connected with their work performance or the state of their business unit.
Don't underestimate the power of an organized and mobilized workforce in bringing fairness, balance and sanity back into IBM.
Clearly IBM management is messing everything up.

Comment 03/14/14: To Anonymous - PBC 1. I have a 1 PBC rating also. My manager stated at a dept mtg that we would be receiving the 6% between 3/15 and 4/15. In a meeting a few days ago, she mentioned that I would be getting that money. So I think it's still coming. Although I won't turn it down it certainly doesn't mean anything to me either. -Disillusioned-
Comment 03/14/14: "Me thinks tho dost protest too much." or is it "Qui s'excuse, s'accuse?"
(Reuters) - International Business Machines Corp has not relinquished its customers' data to the U.S. government and would challenge any orders to do so, the company said in a blog post on Friday.
The post by the world's largest technology service provider is the latest backlash by a tech company against U.S. electronic surveillance practices, after published reports on Wednesday that alleged the government used websites to break into computers.
"IBM has not provided client data to the NSA or any other government agency under any surveillance program involving the bulk collection of content or metadata," Robert Weber, IBM's senior vice president of legal and regulatory affairs, wrote in the blog post.
"If the U.S. government were to serve a national security order on IBM to obtain data from an enterprise client and impose a gag order that prohibits IBM from notifying that client, IBM will take appropriate steps to challenge the gag order through judicial action or other means," Weber said. -Anon-
Comment 03/14/14: "Morale is at an all time low at. Btv. Nigel, no raises, don't like your job, go flip burgers McDonald's. This from our site executive." @Joe
WTF??? Do they really think IBM jobs are so good, and there's no other better companies out there?? What a joke! It's more like: "don't like you job? ok, quit IBM for a better job at a better company for better pay and more future growth".
Comment 03/14/14: If I recall IBM used wiggle room last year when they shifted the payroll increase date when they also said regarding GDP pay out in 2014. "That it would be paid around April 1st". -anon-
Comment 03/14/14: Took the package last summer voluntarily after 37 years. Body was pretty much broken and the mind not far behind. However, after a 9 months of retirement I find the anger diminished considerably and the sky is now clear. No one should believe for a minute that management at the first or second level enjoys doing IBM's bidding. They need jobs like anyone else and will do as told like any other abused, terrified minion. In private conversations any manager will tell you how disgusted and sick it makes them. They don't get paid to destroy lives. No, I am not a retired manager, only a lowly CE from NY/NJ. You guys need to stop fearing organizing. I know people that are even afraid to go to this website for fear of reprisals. Stop stooping. Stand up , pay your dues and fight a bit. Sign your name too it is much more effective than something as clever as 'anon'. IBM need to maintain a critical mass of employees in order to fulfill contracts and in many geographies will soon learn the people they counted on do not want to work given the prevailing conditions. It will be at this point that upper management may realize their arrogance and in some small way perform an act of contrition. As an afterthought, when you do retire, consider taking the lump sum because as things seem to be going, IBM may not be able to meet their pension commitments unless someone with a vision and guts takes the helm. Burning, slashing, and terrorizing won't cut it forever. Good luck to you all. -Chris s/n 823964-
Comment 03/14/14: >
"People who have received such undeserved 3 appraisals, unsupported by management, need to organize and report this to the media."
Oh, please. The corporate media doesn't care. Why would you think they care? They've slept through the dismantling of unions and middle-class jobs for decades, and you think they're going to sit up and change habits for some white-collar IT workers who feel they were given unfair assessments? No one else but you, and perhaps some of your fellow IBMers, cares. And judging by the lack of employees joining this union, not many of your fellows care either.
Alliance reply: It is true that the MSM does not seem too concerned enough to highlight the troubles of IBM workers in the US. However, Alliance@IBM's profile continues to become more prominent, globally and many media outlets, other than "main stream" are paying attention. There is also an increase in IBMers joining Alliance, lately. It's not a huge amount and it isn't enough to call for a vote; but the activity suggests hope, that IBMers are realizing that the only way to have their voice heard, and the best way to fight back, is to organize in a large group of IBM workers that will not be ignored any longer.
BTW.. Thank you for continuing to send comments to this board. We appreciate your long term support of our efforts to advocate and organize for IBM US workers, -irRational-, in a most rational way.

Comment 03/14/14: I 'work' for IBM to get a paycheck, nothing more, anymore. Resume has been sent out for months and if one day someone shows interest in a 'seasoned' IBMer, I'll become an exIBMer, gladly. To other IBMers.. Do NOT stay at IBM for the future, stay only for the present (paycheck). -Employee#12345-
Comment 03/14/14: -StorageDude- STG can still "sell" NetApp but rep wont get paid. Why bother? You ask the future of IBM Storage? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out... Maybe someone from the College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering can help? It's only a matter of time before Storage is sold off to Lenovo. Not convinced? Look where the manufacturing if being shifted to... CHINA! -OutaHere!-
Comment 03/14/14: Well I guess it's official, no sign of the promised 6% for"Top Performers" - PBC 1. Don't really see the point of PBC at this point. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/14/14: I'm rating Mrs. Virginia Rometty-Nicosia: She is PBC 3. She is on a 60 day improvement plan and better not be "distracted"! -Warren's_friend_in_IBM_HR-
Comment 03/14/14: "Your commissions due would not be included in your severance package, but IBM must pay them!"
Thanks for the info. I hate IBM (I've Been Mislead)! I made hundreds of thousands last year for this company as a IBMer marketeer and then they RA me which is bad enough and now have me to grovel for my hard earned commissions? I'm taking a deep breath and then I am going after IBM for my hard earned work (my commission they (IBM)promised). This company is run by BLUE penny pinching rich devils! IBM is pure evil. PLEASE anyone on the fence, join the union before it is too late.
Comment 03/14/14: I believe the union-mgmt discussion to be an interesting and valuable one. The CWA 7777 "WhatAboutUnionDues" resource contained much information I had not fully considered. I wonder about the size/scope of effort(s) involved with IBM negotiations, however. Just the legal involvement(s) by themselves might approach 12+ months and literally millions of dollars in professional representation. Is it the intent that CWA 1701 would somehow front these expenses until such time as an agreement (with accompanying member-dues) was reached? Or that legal counsel retained might agree to some sort of multi-year contingency deal where they were fully compensated after successful settlement was achieved? These aren't reasons NOT to do something, merely front-loaded costs that should be factored into overall consideration. -SimpleMath-
Alliance reply: Before negotiations take place there needs to be a union election at the appropriate bargaining unit. Then a negotiating committee made up of employees and CWA staff hammer out a contract. These costs are bore by CWA national.

Comment 03/14/14: What's next IBM? Another incestuous stock buyback or another round of RAs before stockholder's meeting? I say both. LIFE@IBM IS NOT GOOD. -trexibmer-
Comment 03/14/14: Damning article in Fortune today.
FORTUNE -- For years, IBM (IBM) was that rare tech giant: beloved by investors despite sluggish revenue growth. That was because the company was as determined as it was clever about ratcheting up its earnings-per-share figure. But two years into Ginni Rometty's tenure as CEO, the company faces a double dilemma: Revenue is shrinking while the company is having trouble hitting its ambitious EPS targets. roadmap vowed $10 EPS by 2010 and reached that figure a year early. But this time some are wondering how the company will get there. Including IBM. In the company's annual report released this week, Rometty wrote in a letter to shareholders that "our performance did not meet our expectations" as revenue and operating income both declined in 2013. Yet IBM is determined to reach that $20 EPS goal in any way it can. Some analysts have suggested the company has so many levers to pull in driving earnings per share higher, like aggressive buybacks and layoffs, that the roadmap has lost relevance. IBM beat the Street's profit forecast last quarter, for example, largely because of lower taxes. This year, it will be aided by the $2.3 billion sale of its server business to Lenovo. -anonymous-

Comment 03/14/14: Keep in mind that the description for a PBC 2 does not mention anything about being relative to anyone else. If you're ranked lower than a 2, then ask your manager which part of the description below you failed to live up to:
2 Solid contributor
Consistently meets job responsibilities; is reliable in doing job; demonstrates appropriate level of knowledge, skill, effectiveness and initiative.
Comment 03/14/14: My PBC 3 rating was *far* more devastating than being RA'd. I could have stomached being let go with a good rating, accompanied by a reasonable description of shift in business priorities. But I will never forgive the bozo who told me I was "distracted" and not a significant contributor after a year in which I contributed more than in several years prior. What a pathetically cowardly way to accomplish what real leadership would with honesty and genuine good business conduct character. -the-king-of-distraction-
Comment 03/14/14: My sympathy goes out to all the affected IBM'ers during the latest RA's and thus, I thought I?d share my own story. After 15 years with the company, I left voluntarily in 2011 because I saw the writing on the wall - the yearly RA's, excessive focus on curbing employee cost, etc. And all this despite record company profits! By the end of my time, I just didn't want to be part of it anymore. It turned out to be the best decision I ever made. As echoed in previous comments, you can do better after IBM- better salary, work/life balance, opportunities, and just having more fun when you work at places where people don't just see you as a number (or a Green Dot!). I know its scary - it was for me, but now I wonder why I didn't leave earlier!
To those who want to stay at IBM, I hope you can play a part in making it a great American company again. But in my opinion, that will never happen due to current mgmt. obsession with pleasing Wall Street. The only way to turn it around is for the employees to 'take the company back'. And that cannot happen without an organized effort. In the past, there was no need to organize. Mgmt 'could' still screw you, but they didn't because of company culture(respect for the individual, etc). Now, the culture has clearly changed and not only 'can' they screw you, but they are doing it every year. There needs to be check and balance and the Alliance appears to be the only group setup to organize and provide a voice for workers to have a say in the direction of the company and the welfare of its employees.
Finally, I will admit ? I viewed this site for years but never contributed. I was always on the fence about the Alliance, but looking back, I realize, it was the only way to get a good source of information, especially when you work from home. So, please accept my donation as a small re-payment for all those years of keeping me informed. And keep fighting the good fight!
Comment 03/14/14: Word has it that sales rep on STG and S&D are not being credited for nSeries products anymore. Is that true? What does it says about IBM-NetApp relationship and the future of IBM Storage? Is this part of IBM strategy to get rid of mid-size storage business as well? -StorageDude-
Comment 03/14/14: PBC means nothing to IBM management. It is all determine by headcount at the beginning of the year for the number of RA in a given department. Age is the major consideration
for RAs. Without a union IBM will continue this age discrimination practice. Join the union. -ANA-

Comment 03/14/14: If we did go union how much are union dues?? This seems to be a big issue with people I talk with -unhappy @BTV-
Alliance reply: Please review this PDF file for an explanation regarding union dues:

Comment 03/14/14: Morale is at an alltime low at. Btv. Nigel, no raises, don't like your job, go flip burgers McDonald's. This from our site executive. -Joe-
Comment 03/14/14: Except from the 2013 annual report: "Secondly, even with these additional capabilities, the company recognizes that the size of the Power platform will not return to prior revenue levels. The company will take action by right-sizing the business for the demand characteristics it expects." -Dropping the M-
Comment 03/14/14: Documents: State-IBM jobs agreement forged in 2013, not 2014.
The agreement between IBM and the SUNY College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering calling on the company to retain 3,100 jobs in New York through 2016 was signed last June.
But Gov. Andrew Cuomo did not announce the deal until Feb. 24, just days before IBM announced sweeping layoffs companywide. The job cuts were widely rumored to be in the works and were expected to hit IBM?s facilities in the Hudson Valley, but never materialized following Cuomo's announcement.
"It is extremely odd that it was inked in June but announced in February," said Assemblyman Kieran Michael Lalor, R-Fishkill, whose district includes residents employed at IBM's facilities in Dutchess County. "That is very strange to me."
The agreement requires IBM to retain 2,350 jobs in the Capital Region, East Fishkill, Poughkeepsie, Yorktown Heights and Utica, along with a net increase of 750 jobs. The job commitments from IBM were tied to a $55 million state investment announced the same day between IBM and the state for the company to add 500 jobs in Buffalo at the Buffalo IT Innovation and Commercialization Hub. That agreement was signed in September and IBM so far is the only tenant at the hub.
"The job agreement was contingent on the nano deal in Buffalo," said Cuomo spokesman Rich Azzopardi in an email. "The Buffalo agreement was signed in September, but had to be approved by IBM's board. The announcement was made when the deal was final."
Comment 03/14/14: To DGC, if you and the other Indian employees feel that strongly about it, you should take it up directly with your government. That might actually achieve something. I fail to understand how complaining about it here would compel the Indian government to take any action. -anon-
Comment 03/13/14: Managers are being FORCED to give a quota of PBC 3 appraisals. This is wrong since a PBC 3 carries an implication of poor performance and even results in a performance improvement plan and possible termination without severance. It is a damning appraisal, regardless of what BS you're told. IBM is avoiding severance packages (and hoping to encourage attrition) through the PBC 3 quotas, and it is absolutely unethical and unfair. People who have received such undeserved 3 appraisals, unsupported by management, need to organize and report this to the media. I've shared IBM's scheme with friends in IT outside of IBM, and they are shocked that IBM has stooped to this slimy level of unethical behavior. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/13/14: Year after year people come here and complain about their PBC yet do nothing to fight it. A union contract would change how this evaluation works. Why do you all just moan and not do anything? Why do you just put up with the abuse? It boggles the mind. -anon-
Alliance reply: Alliance agrees with you. Our mission has been to organize IBM US workers AND to be an advocate for them. IBM US workers have no other options to STOP the abuse by IBM. IBM will continue to abuse their own workers until the workers decide to stand up and fight. That can't come too soon, from our view.

Comment 03/13/14: To -Liberated- fighting pbc3, I went from 2+ for many years, got new manager for two months downgraded me to a 2 and then the next year to a 3, that after 35 years. This year back to a 2, it does not matter what they rate you at. No raise, no variable pay bonus, a 4 and a 2 look exactly the same, and it's all bogus anyway. It doesn't matter how good you are, they rate you according to your butt kissing ability. -pbc3b4-
Comment 03/13/14: To -market_this_IBM- : Your commissions due would not be included in your severance package, but IBM must pay them! When I left IBM on my own last year, it took two months but IBM did finally pay all commissions owed to me. Document what you are owed and send an email with those details to your manager, for documentation in case the commissions aren't paid. I kept detailed records of my revenue numbers, just in case there was a problem with my commissions. -FreeFromIBM-
Comment 03/13/14: To Anonymous' comment on 3/13/14 about fighting a PBC 3?....You may as well try fighting it you have nothing left to lose at this point..I was a 2+ and was mysteriously "distracted" to a 3 rating..and laid-off 9/2013. I was actually bullied at work by a team lead who systematically character assassinated me. My first line knew, my second line knew, HR knew "it was a mess, no one cared". This is IBM. Fighting the 3 at least made me feel like I went out fighting, but the closure some people are seeking I do not think will ever come when you are let go after 38 years of exemplary service, you never get over how IBM has treated you when you gave them so much of your life.. -ANONYMOUS-
Alliance reply: This is why Alliance has been fighting for and trying to get US IBMers to organize, so that having a contract proactively sets the rules by which any IBM employee would be let go.
Comment 03/13/14: Re: fighting PBC 3: My manager also told me he was forced to give me the 3. I wasn't going to fight it (waste of time) but I did include some very pithy comments when I signed it (at the very last minute, might as well make the manager squirm). That was a Friday afternoon. On Sunday afternoon my 2nd line had sent me an email and scheduled a 1-1 so I got my open door anyway. He seemed surprised to hear that my manager told me he was forced to give the 3 to me specifically. He "said" he would investigate but the number didn't get changed. He told me that it was "relative contribution" not whether or not I was a good employee and it should not affect my future. Oh, really? If I try to get a different job in IBM, there is NO manager that is going to even consider hiring me after seeing that 3! I didn't get tagged for the RA this time so now I'm in for another few months of trying to pretend that I actually care about this job... because if I get another 3 they will use it to reduce the severance that I've EARNED. p*ss on you, IBM! -BoulderAnon-
Comment 03/13/14: Job cuts in Bromont - Canada today ! Another sad day for ibmers. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/12/14: @hmmmmm PBCs -- are (alas) alive and well - my manager has said that first drafts must be in the system by March 31. -15yearsandcounting-
Comment 03/12/14: One year no TCR and 3 months of stolen MBA, this year no GDP... I can not imagine any other company having such highhanded performance compensation. Well, the lucky side of the story is that Q1 performance will be driven by our "motivation". :o) -Oliverro-
Comment 03/12/14: The RA plan has not been thought out well. An example is the ISC RA where all level 6 US based AR CSR's have been offshored to Mexico or Amalgamanted collection agency. The offer at Amalgamated is $35K annual with no benefits. Taking this offer would not violate the package and RA payments would still be made. Most if not all current IBMERs in AR are not taking this as it is more than insulting. Due to this, those remaining have no direction or understanding of what will be expected of them moving forward. It's mid March with quarter close. IBM's cash position will suffer and may never recover. We used to take pride in our cash collection teams - no more! Others are being asked to mentor their peers in Mexico. Reminds me of an old western movie - two men, one with a shovel, the other with a gun. Clearly the man with the shovel is digging his own grave. Ridiculous! -Really?-
Comment 03/12/14: Indian government and labor laws should revoke IBMs license to operate and slap a huge penalty for violation of labour laws. Those still sitting on their backsides and being rewarded for their faliures are "Aunty" head or tail of the company, a joker who is called head of comm sector. Got this role because his predessor fled to join a client where he is reduced to a glorified postman. And a few band 10s whom heaven knows how they got into IBM in the first place.. oh actually they came in through influence of the chap who left. All in all a shit company inside and outside. To all the CTO, CFO and other stakeholders of companies out there that have engaged IBM. If you believe you will get quality service. Think again. Terminate your SO and take charge before IBM screws you all over. -DGC-
Comment 03/12/14: -dun-4- I started my management career back in the early 80's and as a 08 at the time was given a few stock options. This continued yearly until the mid 90's . I would also work with my management team and provide my high performers with stock options as long as I could. After 2000 I hadn't heard of any options given to the lower bands. So it was done in the past. -lastdino1-
Comment 03/12/14: this is not a right time to work in IBM. Only safe business is sterling commerce. People are safe there, they r enjoying the personal life without going to office and without taking the transfer. no one is asking about them. Good job IBM. Keep it up. Who all are working you hv given the peanuts and other are enjoying. best of luck. Now good people will leave the IBM. Now you will having only avg people. -abc-
Comment 03/12/14: Anyone had any luck successfully applying for an open internal position after being RA'd? -PBC2-
Have you read the comments in the comment section, and/or the Archived comments from other visitors yet? Have you taken a look at the many features of the Alliance@IBM web site in the "Menu" section and searched for some answers BEFORE you sent your comment? The Alliance@IBM web site provides many answers to questions that have already been asked and answered by Alliance staff, members and former visitors, in the past.

Comment 03/11/14: I am a band 9 that was RAed. I received stock options about 10 years ago. As far as those shares of stock that we are suppose to get in 2015, Ginni got about 70,000 shares a $0 on Feb 1!!!!! Do the math... 13000 x 7 shares..Yeah the execs got no pay increase, but they have secretly lined their greedy pockets with no cost shares. Explain that one Ginni!!!! Such a hypocrite -Well-
Comment 03/11/14: I don't have high long term prospects for a company whose management is loathed by its employees. When your employees call you pigs, it cannot be good long term. I might be wrong. I recall TJ Watson Jr. loved his people and they him. Have you ever read his quotes? Current management is a 180 degree turn from his style. -TJ-

Comment 03/11/14: Another set of layoffs coming on 14th march... attention: brazilian ibmers!!! share here any updates! -lindomar-
Comment 03/11/14: Why I'm Still Blue On Big Blue. IBM continues to underperform the market, despite funneling cash flow into buybacks and dividends. Its software business has grown into a mess of revenue streams and moving the needle via acquisitions is becoming less of a reality. Big Blue continues to lose market share in databases, app server software and process automation, and it trades at a valuation that's already generous. Over the last couple of years, IBM (IBM) shares have notably underperformed, declining while the market has grown. Investors have been disappointed by the fall in revenues, with the short-term outlook being less than exciting. The nature of its business has been changing quickly and it is attempting to downplay its now low margin hardware business, while focusing more on higher margin businesses, such as software and the cloud. Management has been doing its best to create value for investors by paying out a majority of its cash flow via dividend payments and share buybacks. I'd argue that the quality of its earnings is questionable as earnings growth has been driven by tax rates and share buybacks rather than genuine revenue growth. -Anon-

Comment 03/11/14: To -dun-4- Yes it is true about band 8 and 9s and even lower receiving stock options. This happened a few years back with a group of relatively new starters and was meant as an incentive to keep them. Unfortunately (?) I missed out too. -OnThinIce-
Comment 03/11/14: We have to stand up (not behind) those in IBM China that lost their IBM job in IBM China for standing up to IBM abuses! Show some solidarity! Some way, some how. Let's do it NOW! This is a GLOBAL problem with IBM! -IBM UnionYES-
Comment 03/11/14: This Big IBM Bet Doesn't Deserve a Pass
Despite persistent revenue declines over the past couple of years, the Street has always had a love-affair with IBM. Even though management has wasted well over $16 billion in acquisitions the past couple of year in search of growth, none has been found.
Although IBM produces strong cash flow and above-average return on equity, the stock has lost roughly 20% of its value in the past nine months. Investors have demanded better. Recently, CEO Ginni Rometty insisted that the company is not exiting hardware. Yet this affirmation comes on the heels of IBM's decision to sell the x86 computer server business to Lenovo.
Sure, IBM did well in the deal, which secured $2.3 billion. I will credit Rometty for successfully monetizing a business the company no longer cared to pursue. But cash has never been the issue for this company. The problem has been growth. And the server business was a strong profit producer.
The Street has applauded the decision. But that's only because it comes with 25% reduction in IBM's workforce, most of which will be shed from the company's hardware division. When has that ever been good news? The company called it "rebalancing its workforce" so that it can better focus on its new priorities including analytics, cloud and cognitive computing.
Comment 03/11/14: Why doesn't my RA package reflect age distribution detail anymore - isn't this a reqmt under OWBPA? -Anita Job-
Alliance reply: This has been discussed quite a bit in this comment section as well as in articles on our main page.
Clearly IBM is suppressing and hiding not just age date, but numbers cut and their divisions.

Comment 03/11/14: To Anon: What are you talking about? Band 8 and 9s getting stock options. I've been working here for 29 years and NEVER received any sort of perk such as stock options. The only think I got was that 1k in stock (which every other peon in the company received on the centennial anniversary of IBM). I do not think I will ever see those stocks as I am anticipating being RA-ed before that date. Those stocks were just another carrot dangled in front of all the ibmers, but will never be seen. Did anyone thing what happens to the stock options if you are RA-ed before maturity? I am willing to bet that the executives will receive those stock options as another bonus for a good job. Just wait and see - those stocks that you think you are getting will be lining the executives pockets soon enough, and the ibmers across the globe, will be filing unemployment claims instead! IBM gives one thing with one hand and takes two away with the other hand. REMEMBER THAT! -dun-4-
Comment 03/11/14: -Everyone and their dog is a Vice President!- When Gerstner was hired I had nine levels of management. By the time he retired I was down to five. When I retired in 2010 there were eleven. The only thing I can come up with is the current batch of executives watched"This is Spinal Tap" one too many times and hire Nigel Tufnel as their management consultant. For thos unaware Nigel had his amps silk screened to go to eleven which is one louder than ten. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 03/11/14:
Top executives gave up annual bonuses, and IBM announced layoffs for the first time in 10 years. Rometty reaffirmed IBM's goal of $20 a share in adjusted earnings by 2015,up from $11.67 in 2010. First layoff in 10 years??? What was the thousands of IBMers in USA let go in 2009? Or the ones let go from last year? That was not a layoff??? LIFE@IBM IS NOT GOOD.
Comment 03/11/14: Lenovo to inherit half-empty IBM factory as workers quit Lenovo will inherit a half-empty Chinese factory as part of its planned $2.3bn acquisition of IBM's low-end server business, according to striking workers at the facility and a labour lawyer who said more than half of them had decided to take severance. Their decision to leave came after IBM fired as many as 20 workers who objected to the terms of their transfer to the Chinese computer company, which announced in January that it would buy out the US tech company's x86 server business. -Anon-
Comment 03/11/14: IBM is spending, but is it enough to buy the cloud? Summary: Big Blue appears set on a dual strategy to offload hardware businesses as quickly as possible, while snapping up software and cloud companies with equal speed.
Comment 03/11/14: -Anonymous- you don't get a financial statement if that is what you are expecting. You just get the package statement about "X weeks of pay for every 6 mos of service". You can calculate what that dollar amount is yourself. You will receive a separate check for unused vacation. The "X weeks of pay for previous years Service" is deemed a "settlement", rather than an advance on pay. That means it will be taxed somewhat differently than is your pay, and I think you need to make arrangements on taxes associated with the payments - either IBM will withhold the tax, or you may have to make the tax payments to state/feds yourself. Check with your accountant on this.
You continue to have health insurance coverage from IBM per their statement about subsidized coverage based on years of service BUT you have to pay IBM directly for that coverage. They will bill you, and you send in a check. You can call Employee Services to find out what that monthly charge will be. After your eligibility for subsidized coverage ends you can continue purchasing insurance from IBM at the unsubsidized rate. (By the way - your Dental insurance is not subsidized after separation. You have to pay the unsubsidized rate for that immediately upon separation. Also - if you are contributing to a Health Care Reimbursement Account - you can only apply charges for expenses incurred prior to separation. You cannot use that account for post-separation expenses).
This is something you need to check on right away. If you don't have access to a health insurance plan adviser, I urge you to immediately check in with the provided placement firm (Right Management??) and ask for a referral to the health insurance advisory firm. It may be the case that you should drop IBM's subsidized coverage and enroll in a new plan immediately. Otherwise, at the end of your subsidized coverage you will be unable to join a new plan and you will be locked into paying the unsubsidized IBM rate.
Comment 03/11/14: In a non Lenovo impacted division. It's almost middle of March and we've not received any exhortations from management to groups and departments about doing our 2014 PBC? PBC's gone bye bye? -Hmmm-
Comment 03/11/14: "Bands 8 and 9 give them just enough stock options to shut their mouths."
Partly true, but not toally. But you overall point is well taken, One of 700!. Some got stock options if they were hired during the internet bubble but most don't get them at all, maybe unless they are management. Band 8 and 9 and especially 10 usually are more politically astute, have some folks that look out for them (in middle management sure helps), and know how the IBM elephant operates. BUT it doesn't stop them getting RAed. In fact, they are probably now "caught in the middle" and are real targets due to their salary costs. LIFE@IBM IS NOT GOOD -Anon-

Comment 03/11/14:

Ten workers reportedly sacked in IBM China strike Summary: Workers continue to press for higher compensation as protests go into their ninth day over the IBM-Lenovo server deal. -Terminator-

Comment 03/11/14: IBM fires striking workers in China. Lenovo says - not our problem. In a statement on Monday, Lenovo pointed out that it still hasn't taken over the relevant business "regulatory hurdles still stand in the way" and therefore "the strike at the IBM server factory in Shenzhen is the internal matter for IBM.?"
"To ensure a smooth transition Lenovo is committed to provide opportunity for all employees from IBM?s x86 server department who transfer to Lenovo, without any reduction of their wages and benefits" the Chinese manufacturer insisted.
However, the 5-day-old strike continues. Per Reuters' analysis, this is partly the result of a growing labor shortage in China, which is "emboldening" workers to stand up for their rights - and no doubt spurring on manufacturing outfits like Foxconn to cozy up to Google for its nascent factory-automating robotics efforts.
Workers at a nearby Nokia plant also downed tools last November, in protest at the terms of the sale of Nokia's handset business to Microsoft.
IBM itself isn't budging. According to a Tuesday report in the Shanghai Daily, the company has fired 20 of the protestors for "disobeying company orders, absence without leave and gathering together during work times."
Comment 03/10/14: Cloud, Big Data, Analytics "we are not exiting hardware". Hmmmm..... no more outsourcing? -Anonymous-
Comment 03/10/14: "IBM bets the farm on big data in annual report"
IBM betting the farm on big data and cloud is chasing the market. IBM should be leading innovation. Unfortunately IBM big data is just repackaged version of open source offerings. There are better, more creative competitors that innovate - HortonWorks/Cloudera/MapR with fire in their bellies. IBM overprices and sells to unsuspecting customers for 90% margins. This is not sustainable. As for cloud: Amazon innovates and drives costs down. It passes the savings on to customers. IBM drives cost down for itself by employing third world labour but charges first world prices to customer and keeps difference. This profit is not reinvested back into its employees but is likely divided and distributed to shareholders and management.
IBM will not survive long with employees that seem to distrust and despise management and is paralysed in fear of being made redundant and lied to. IBM also lacks founder's drive and fire. Watson's are long gone and have been replaced with management with no vision and is likely busy enriching themselves. Only a whole sale management change will work. These are only my opinions and is not that of IBM. -tg-

Comment 03/10/14: IBM's silence on numbers of job cuts speaks volumes. Their refusal to release numbers and the amount of highly read news articles shows that the Alliance has a voice. IBM is cutting it's loses, basically they bet on a horse in kentucky Derby, lost, then had a meeting and the decision was to cut more meat and bone off to make the vehicle lighter, with no clue they are no longer cutting fat. At this point after 7 quarters of reduced revenue and many statements about cloud and analytics which they are woefully behind on and overpriced in the market. They will continue to fail. Bleeding? Cut off the bleeding leg, so now how will you stand? The executives cashing in shares shows they are packing their golden parachutes. hey, if I was an executive on a sinking ship, I'd be kicking off stowage to line my boat. IBM is quickly becoming the "texas Instruments" Glad I was laid off when I was, anyone still staying, , no raises, no bonus, PBC numbers artificially lowered to meet their expectations. You deserve better than that. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/10/14: I looked at my so-called Report to chain in Blue Pages, and noticed that there are 11 levels between me and Big Grandma. Assuming each manager manages 10 people, there are more employees in IBM than the planet's population!
I also saw that there are about 5 "Vice Presidents" in the Report to chain. A VP reporting to a VP, who in turn reports to another VP and so on.. Talk about Smarter Planet, would you now, Ginny? Why do you need so many Vice Presidents? If you cannot clearly provide a job title, you most certainly cannot justify their existence in the company, so why not get rid of some of those Vice Presidents instead of the Band 6-10 employees?
-Everyone and their dog is a Vice President!-
Comment 03/10/14: One of 700 is 100% correct. -Anon-
Comment 03/10/14: "You do realize that the sole reason for a public company to exist is to return value to its stockholders?"
That is the current business theory that a lot of corporate finance types subscribe to, but it's only partly true. A business needs to do something that customers think is worth spending their money on. They need to have employees who care about what the company does so they can make the best products. It's a three-legged stool - no one leg is more important than the other. Unfortunately, the stockholder-value fetish is driving companies to make bad decisions about their employees. I was RA'd in 2011 and am so glad to be out of that crappy environment. I'm now working at a company that understands this. If you're unhappy either change your environment or get out. Don't wait for them to push you out. -Ex-Research RA-

Comment 03/10/14: From the IBM Essex Junction/Burlington site legal posting board. OSHA ?Summary of Work Related Injuries? form for year 2013: Annual average number of employees = 3,731 dated 1/14/2014 -IBMnumbers-
Comment 03/10/14: In the last week IBM has been promoting its Master the Mainframe championship. I have seen many IBM generated PR pieces on this topic. So, IBM wants college students to invest in the mainframe but, at the same time, is divesting itself of these same skills. Of course, college students will never pick up on the hypocrisy of IBM. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/10/14: IBM bets the farm on big data in annual report Hardware and chip research stay, servers and storage 'shift' to Linux and pastures new. IBM is utterly focused on big data and analytics as its future growth engines, according to its annual report published over the weekend. But the company has hedged a little on the future of its semiconductor and hardware businesses.
“But let me be clear—we are not exiting hardware,”
Rometty adds. "IBM will remain a leader in high-performance and high-end systems, storage and cognitive computing, and we will continue to invest in R&D for advanced semiconductor technology.”
Just what is meant by continuing to invest in semiconductors isn't explained, which may keep eyebrows raised after recent rumours suggested Big Blue would offload its chip business. The phrase "continue to invest" does not rule out a sale and ongoing joint research engagement. -Anon-

Comment 03/10/14: I agree with Anonymous. IBM does not want to employ you. They are not addressing or fixing issues. And they couldn't care less about you. The greedy execs have been very successful in breaking up IBM into segmented groups. Bands 1-7 let them eat cake. Bands 8 and 9 give them just enough stock options to shut their mouths. 1st and 2nd line Managers do as Executive Management tells you no matter how offensive or morally wrong it might be. Executive Management is Gordon Gecko on Steroids. Greed is good and anything that gets in the way just bull doze it. 5 year planning LOL. 32 years with company , took the transition program, couldn't stomach the company anymore. Good luck to all that are left. Good god what are you waiting for. UNIONIZE!!! -One of 700-
Comment 03/09/14: To -IBMPIGS- Although the exec's sell off their stock and direct buy backs there is nothing illegal about it . Maybe unethical but then again there is no ethics in the business world. So they will continue to do this as long as it is legal. -lastdino1-
Comment 03/09/14: -IBMpigs- I don't disagree with what you are saying, and I think the leaders of IBM have lost their minds personally, but I was just responding to a prior post that said IBM should stop listening to shareholders and just worry about customers and employees. Just putting things in perspective. So far the market has put up with IBM leaders because they are giving them a return. But they are doing it by self cannibalization.... eating itself. Eventually it will run out of self to eat and will be left as a hull of what once was. Then the house of cards will fall and the shareholders will sell. -GotOutIn13-
Comment 03/09/14: Jobs are being cut also in Europe, it is not only in the US. India and China employees are being let go too. In few weeks, I will be finally gone from the place I used to love so much. After 6.5 years. There is no future there. -snowbunny-
Comment 03/09/14: I got RA'ed March 31st. I got my packet from IBM and the separation agreement paper. but. No where did the list my severance pay or when i will receive it. Does any one have any information on how this procedure works. Please I need to know. My wife is very ill. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/09/14: OSHA requires all employers to list accidents at each work location every year. IBM is required to do this for its work sites too. At IBM Rochester this OSHA accident notice is placed on the wall by the cafeteria entrance. The OSHA form also lists total number of workers employed at the work site. For IBM Rochester the 2013 form says 3,200 workers. To find out US employment counts someone at each IBM US location should post the number of workers. I am sure after the RA the number will be less. I will look for the 2014 notice and post the results here. -Anonymous-active employee-
Comment 03/09/14: "The 'good' news is that this isn't about outsourcing to .."
It does not matter to me where they are outsourcing; outsourcing is bad to the US job market. Americans are struggling to find jobs to feed their families. -john-

Comment 03/09/14: Reuters has reported this today, but it is about what happened earlier this month. Great article. I didn't see it put here, so take a look:
It seems that the Chinese are upset with more companies than just IBM... -IBM_workers_unite!-

Comment 03/09/14: What will the future IBM look like and how will it effect current employees and investors. Cloud services will replace most if not all current standalone HW and SW offerings. Financial services to fund HW and SW will disappear because cloud services are ongoing annuities that do not require financing. Cloud apps like big data and Watson will increase and be a service like cloud itself but at a premium rates. Current mainframes, Power, etc will be replaced with commodity platform specific cloud services. Outsourcing of datacenter operations will not be needed anymore due to the nature of the cloud.
Consulting will realign to providing cloud and how to migrate to it from current data center models taking the best of both models with private and hybrid cloud service models.
So the future IBM will only have three main silos; cloud services, consulting, and cloud apps all mostly commodity prices with little opportunity for differentiation other than cloud apps.
Of the current 400k + IBM headcount do you think will be required. If you go through the current headcount by silo you will see its much less than 100k at best. For investors its mostly commodity services with little room for previous IBM high margin differentiation.
No matter if you are an employee or investor the future of IBM is bleak to say the least and full of RAs and more financial disappointments that 2014 will provide a glimpse of that future...
Comment 03/09/14: I was RA'd at nearly 40 years. I had my time and it was time to go. But what still pisses my off is how Management just delivered the RA notice and made no effort to thank me for my years of service and my dedicated effort. Nope, you're just expendable, give me your badge. I now hope IBM sinks to oblivion. Worst management in corporate history. I am ashamed that I ever was associated with this company. Will never admit to working there. -IBM Management Sucks-
Comment 03/08/14: The 'good' news is that this isn't about outsourcing to India this time. They are getting slashed and burned too. Maybe their jobs are being outsourced to .... China? If it's cheaper it must be better right? Quality isn't important, until the customers wake up -anonymous-
Comment 03/08/14: "You do realize that the sole reason for a public company to exist is to return value to its stockholders?"
Sure I do! But when IBM executives that are SEC insiders can become multimillionaire shareholders themselves and the decisions they make are self serving and incestuous does not lead at all times to the best interests of ALL stockholders, individual and institutional.
There was a sound reason why Watson Sr. and Jr. did not go over the top with stock grants to themselves or executive team ('..we don't want to look like pigs..').
You cannot tell me all these IBM executives who get stock options and stock awards today don't have vital financial and business information that can swing shareholder prices. When they authorize a stock buyback they become even more pig greedy rich themselves. One can wonder if they always have the best interest of the corporation at heart based on a merry-go-round of RAs and business direction.
So if IBM's BOD and executives don't return value to the shareholder who will truly be blamed and who will lose out the most? -IBMpigs-
Comment 03/08/14: According to the NC employment security commission you can receive your benefits (max $350 per week) before your severance runs out if you are taking a course from an institution of higher learning. NC has 19 weeks of unemployment and does not participate in the federal extension of benefits. Does anyone know what the total number of those laid off in the March round? -GAR-
Comment 03/08/14: Yes, when times are good, IBM will continue to outsource and RA, and when times are bad, they will accelerate the effort to outsource and RA. There is no escape for the American IBMer. The resulting toxic and demoralizing working environment is a deliberate act by IBM to encourage attrition. They do not want to employ us here. If you are feeling unwanted, it's because you absolutely are unwanted. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/07/14: STG Storage Techline laid off at least 7 specialists from the US & Canadian team. Roughly 50% of the team so far. -anon-
Comment 03/07/14: "but because of IBM global downsizing (basically outsourcing my job to India"
Yes this is the main problem outsourcing of jobs, it has nothing to do with performance as my manager said -John-

Comment 03/07/14: -Gone in '98- You do realize that the sole reason for a public company to exist is to return value to its stockholders? If they could get a better return in some other investment, their would be no company. Now most investors are in for the long term, and for that reason they care greatly about the management of the company, treatment of employees and customers. You can't keep generating return the way IBM is proceeding so eventually the stockholders will pull away. For a private company, this isn't an issue, and this is why Michael Dell wanted to take Dell private. -GotOutIn13-
Comment 03/07/14: -Anonymous- asked "Can I request/demand an RA package?" There is no mechanism for you to demand an RA, no matter how many years you've been at IBM. You can ask your manager for an RA (that's what worked for me) but the response varies with each manager; and even if your manager does agree, you might have to wait years for the next RA to hit your group. -Gorya-
Comment 03/07/14: 30 year guy I talked to an old co-worker last week who had 39 years. He said he went to his manager back in late Jan. and told him he would save a co-worker if they would RA him so he could retire. They gave him the RA package last week and he is happy and gone. It can be done if you have a good relationship with your manager. PBC 2+ employee -lastdino1-
Comment 03/07/14: @ -Anonymous-. You can get RA'ed if you try hard enough, but not by demanding it. Rather, you have to become a burden to IBM for sufficiently long time (4-5 months). Don't know what your position is, but if you're measured by utilization then maintaining it close to 0% throughout should work. What you're talking about is a voluntary redundancy and you need to a strong union to get that in US. -RA'ed-
Comment 03/07/14: Hearing about more voluntary departures following this RA.
"I can't continue to generate work knowing that we no longer have the team to execute that work. Makes my efforts meaningless. Time for me to go." -15yrsandcounting-

Comment 03/07/14: To -Gone in '98- ....You wondered why companies like IBM are catering to large shareholders. The answer is easy when you think about it in the right light. Employees cater to customers; EXECUTIVES cater to large shareholders. Why? Because they ARE large shareholders. If you take note of all the posts about executives selling 0-basis shares of stock, you'll realize how much they have at stake in pumping up the stock so they can dump it before the market realizes they've cannibalized the product line. -Gone in '14-
Comment 03/07/14: -Linuxguru-: I still wonder how many thousands have been RAed due to IBM managements bad decisions and indecisions. Add OS/2 for operating system software which was very glaring. There was also some program offerings and IBM IUO packages that were darn good too that never saw real light of day. Windows NT 3.1 was a joke compared to OS/2 server unless you loved to see the BSOD often. OS/2 would run on most x86 and microchannels (e.g. IBM 8595's) And then IBM totally mismarketed OS/2 Warp under Gerstner as well as all of the PS/2 line and Microsoft and Apple made out great and as the late great Paul Harvey used to say "And now you know the rest of the story!" -sby_willie-
Comment 03/07/14: "I have over 30 years with IBM. Can I request/demand an RA package?"
Negotiate with this IBM? LOL! You have no labor contract with them. IBM calls all the shots. You are also an "at will" employee.
If you try I bet management with force retirement on you meaning you get no severance. Why would IBM want to RA you now if they have to pay you more (give you severance when retirement eligible in IBM's jaundiced eyes)?! That is their sick logic. There is no logic why you might have survived when others have been RAed, but usually if you are salary or pay budget friendly (meaning low, low paid in the salary band) you have a better "longevity" with IBM. It is all what IBM gets out of you. And what they can keep from giving you! Work your 8 hours only, no more. Do less strenuous, intensive and highly visible work, and only what is assigned. This approach might make you more RA eligible. But then again who knows with this IBM? Do Join the Alliance if you haven't already maybe someday with a contract you could negotiate an equitable exit package.
Comment 03/07/14: When I was RA'd in 2009 IN NC, I was able to collect unemployment immediately, even with the 6 mos. severance package. I just had to take a class or some type of education. -NC-
Comment 03/07/14: What is amazing is all of these big companies like IBM catering to the big share holders. They are not customers , nor are they employees. They remind me of vultures that hang around until the meat is gone and move unto something else. They do not care about the companies future, only the current price of stock. IBM executives all fit into this category. When IBM is beyond a point of no return because of their actins, they will move on to something/somewhere else with all the money they stole. -Gone in '98-
Comment 03/07/14: I have over 30 years with IBM. Can I request/demand an RA package? Has anybody been able to force IBM to give them an RA package? -Anonymous-
Alliance reply: Good luck with that strategy. Check out this board's earlier posts--even the archives. You'll get plenty of advice from RA'ed IBMers on whether "demanding" to be RA'ed is a good idea.

Comment 03/07/14: Kudos to our IBM brothers and sisters in China! We stand united with you in your quest for fair treatment and better working conditions! If IBM disciplines or fires just ONE of these workers who peacefully demonstrated IBM should be brought to justice. -IBMUnionYES-
Alliance reply: There has been some critical comments about Chinese workers, Indian workers and others since the job cuts started a few weeks ago. Chinese workers and other offshore workers didn't "take" our jobs.
These jobs were sent by corporate executives who saw a way to make bigger bucks for themselves and stockholders. These workers are in the same boat as American workers or worse. They are not the enemy.
We are all being used as pawns to further corporate wealth that does not trickle down to working people .

Comment 03/07/14: IBM today, management sucks.. Me, me , me.. I, I , I. Brag, Brag, Brag, empty vessels make the most noise.... -Anon-
Comment 03/07/14: This grand plan may backfire. In my area the word is out that SSR's are targeted for March 31. We have had 5 people with tons of experience and talent quit in the last week. I am from a small state and there are only 4 SSR's left in the state. Customers will suffer. Get the word out to your customers. Hit IBM where it hurts, in the pocket book. Talk to co-workers. We need a huge push right now to get membership in the Alliance to surge. That, more than anything else, will open the eyes of management. The only concern in IBM is for shareholders. Customers are not valued. Much like employees, or resources, are not valued. Maybe IBM would be happier without either customers or employees. It might make that magic $20 EPS target a little tough to get to. It seems senior management is just interested in raping a pillaging the company. They will sell their " free " stock and run. Leaving this company in ruins. You can't run a successful company and have it's employees loathe it and it's management. It just won't work. Unite my friends. Join the Alliance!!! IBM- I've been misled.... -Anonymous-
Comment 03/07/14: @-Gone- and others. Curious, has there ever been a breakdown of RA's by gender? Second, the number of nearly 400K employees keeps being bandied about by the Corporate shill Doug Shelton. While IBM may"employ" that figure, that does not mean they are "employees". Five years ago there were over 100K contractors, vendors, supplemental's counted in the mix, today that number has more than doubled to over 250K. IBM's actual "employee' headcount, ones that they issue W2's or equivalent, make 401K payments, etc is significantly less. To illustrate, a construction site can "employ" thousands of workers, the construction company itself actually has only a few hundred"employees". -Numbers Game-
Comment 03/07/14: "IBM hardware X, P and Z are some of the best designed in the world including systems software."
I have to second that - I last worked for IBM in 1997, and it was a privilege to work with the really competent engineers who developed old-style IBM hardware and system SW. PowerPC was a technical standout, and the reasons it didn't win against x86 are mostly due to bad decisions by IBM management over the years. It has created immense value and wealth for other companies who managed it better, like Apple. The real pity is that this time around, there isn't anything of that calibre that can save IBM.
Alliance reply: The PowerPC "miss" was one of many ridiculously dumb moves that IBM management mangled into a mess or shelved like a piece of forgotten technology. RISC comes to mind, and so does Micro-Channel technology. There are others. Many former IBM engineers still marvel in disgust at IBM's ability to balk and freeze with the technology opportunities that were theirs to take. It is said that IBM could just not get used to the idea that "Consumer Machines" and software could be just as lucrative as "Business Machines", in the global economy that IBM itself, wanted to "lead".... "We're 'International Business Machines'
not 'International Consumer Machines' !!!!" <smh>

Comment 03/06/14: Reading the recent comments ilustrates the conundrum that is IBM, - such potential......missed. Senior leadership is so focused on the short term ePS that they are missing the greatness. Watson is phenominal....but we are losing the great minds. Software acquisitions are best of breed, but we do not focus on integrating each of these stellar companies into the IBM solution. Result, acquisition money wasted. Worst of all.....the human on wants to work at IBM anymore. Great potential ---- lost. Very sad to watch. -Concerned IBMer-
Comment 03/06/14: Heard San Jose swg Tivoli started today. 60 days notice. -More-
Comment 03/06/14: I quit two days ago amid the RA's and despite management begging me to stay....why did i go?? Well I think most people are prepared to put up with a lot of crap in a sales role, but two weeks ago I and a few colleagues were told that 'a decision had been made' to change how our 2013 commission would work which effectively halved what IBM OWES ME in commission and leaving some colleagues owing back to IBM. unethical and due to dumb arse management. I never worked at such a company before loathed by emloyees and begrudging customers. 2.5 years wasted but glad to be emancipated. Dont trust any commitment from IBM, their 'values' (ha ha) mean absolutely nothing when it comes to screwing employees and customers.... Truly a disgusting and morally retarded organization! -Happilygone-
Comment 03/06/14: Boeing Will Freeze 68,000 Nonunion Workers? Pensions by 2016
Boeing Co. (BA), the world's largest planemaker, will freeze pensions for 68,000 nonunion employees and executives, shifting benefit payments to a 401(k)-style plan, as it works to cut costs. The change will take effect Jan. 1, 2016, the Chicago-based company said today in a statement. Employees will be able to keep any accruals already made to their pensions provided on Boeing?s defined benefit plan as the company shifts payments to a defined contribution plan. Employees hired since 2009 and new members of 28 unions are already on this plan. Boeing is curbing pension expenses that, at $3.45 billion over the last 12 months, are the third-highest among large U.S. corporations, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. General Electric Co.'s (GE) $5.05 billion expense was the largest, followed by Exxon Mobil Corps' $3.73 billion. Boeing aims to provide workers with an "attractive" benefit, "while also assuring our competitiveness by curbing the unsustainable growth of our long-term pension liability," Tony Parasida, the company's senior vice president of human resources and administration, said in the statement. -anonymous-

Comment 03/06/14: You can see that TJ Watson JR. is long gone. "No subject occupies more executive time at IBM than the well-being of our employees and their families." -TJ-
Comment 03/06/14: IBM is spending money promoting a lunch wagon? Seriously Do you plan to be there Martha Stewart like wearing an apron filming an episode of Chef Ramsey and Kitchen Nightmares - "Ginni's Baking Company"?
How about asking Mills and LeBlanc about SWG code quality issues, the effects of RA's, T2R, skills having left impact.
Why not let WATSON do something useful and beneficial to the bottom line besides media fluff. Decades worth of "big data", exists to do an analysis and fix what's become broken. -Anon-

Comment 03/06/14: To -changeisgood-: Even with a LinkedIn Premium account, you cannot see those viewers (who have viewed your profile) who have turned on anonymity in their settings. -BlueNoMore-
Comment 03/06/14: "I explained to them I was laid off not for performance reasons (which my manager can verify), but because of IBM global downsizing (basically outsourcing my job to India where they could hire 3 engineers with my salary). Just be honest."-Anon-
Great advice! I was laid off along with my whole team in 2013. I have my old manager at IBM as a reference who can attest to the fact that I was a model employee. It is not a stigma to be laid off from IBM, trust me! Recruiters know that IBM is notorious in the industry for mass firings that have nothing to do with individual performance. -happy-to-be-gone-

Comment 03/06/14: Cuts everywhere and morale in the dump. I just signed up, but I fear its already way to late to do anything. For those Lenovo bound (the rumor is 1/3 going or less). they'll put your mission/you in a box for about 2 years, while the new company figures out how to stream line further. -Mr. B-
Comment 03/06/14: "Words are important. The word 'Personnel' has been replaced by the term 'Human Resources.' Now managers say "Have you got a resource?" when they mean 'a person.' A resource is something that you use up and throw away. Need I say more?"
My idiot manager/director of product referred to people as headcount. "We need more headcount." This also reflected in utilizing us as a bunch spare parts. No training. No concern. No career development. Just use up and toss when burned out. -Narnia-

Comment 03/06/14: Thank you Alliance. -Deb-
Comment 03/06/14: IBM bows to it's stockholders. Whatever it takes to improve the profit margin they will do. The employee is the least important part of that equation. No one at IBM should feel IBM just can't get along without them. Those that do, have a very long, hard and painful way to fall when they get their pink slip. If we equated IBM to those animals living in the wild, Mother IBM would eat all of her young if necessary to survive,'s that simple, period. -Ben-
Comment 03/06/14: Im reading a lot about how only the older generation is being laid off. This is not true. IBM laid off over 15 college graduates that it just trained for over a year and heavily invested in them. 6 months in the field and gone. -Gone-
Alliance reply: Actually it is true, but you are right, recent grads are getting cut too.

Comment 03/06/14: I'm amazed at people like -StupidQuestion-. Alliance has the right response, but I wonder if a followup answer could clarify?
Here's my suggestion:
IBMers that decide to join or donate to Alliance must do more than that, if they want to see a union contract.
There needs to be participation at other levels. Alliance needs the donations and the dues to continue to function as a voice for IBMers that have none. BUT, IBMers that join the Alliance and still work at IBM must also put some time into real organizing. Sitting back and waiting for a union contract to be won is not organizing. Get serious about this. This is the best time to go after IBM and make your strength known to the Corporate Execs.
Collective action brings solutions. Alliance has made these points over and over, since they began. For some reason, some people just don't see that there must be a concerted and active effort to form a union and work toward a contract. It also takes public demonstration. The obstacles to unionizing IBM in the US are daunting, no doubt about it. BUT, doing nothing or sitting back and asking questions like "what is the union going to do for me?", is not helping. If you don't understand how unions really work, then take some time to look around the Alliance web site. There are all kinds of informational pages that can help. I've been a member for 15 yrs. And I've been doing my part. Not just paying dues, but also speaking out and making IBMers aware that they ARE important to this cause. I'm just saying that you can't be on the sidelines forever. You MUST participate and be active, along with paying some dues or donating. That's the way it really works and makes a difference. -BlueEyedBlindness-

Comment 03/06/14: @FirstTimeLaidOff I was RA'd in June/July 2013. When I was out interviewing for other companies, I was simply honest. When asked, I explained to them I was laid off not for performance reasons (which my manager can verify), but because of IBM global downsizing (basically outsourcing my job to India where they could hire 3 engineers with my salary). Just be honest. A lot of my interviewers sympathized with me, mentioning that if that happened to them, they would be downright furious. One even asked me if he should sell his IBM stock due to the company's condition. -Anon-
Comment 03/06/14: Ginni's Lunch Wagon? What's next, IBM plumps its revenue by competing with McDonalds, Burger King and Dunkin Donuts? Will they provide Blue Kool-Aid at SXSW too? Or is that a Jonestown special? -anon-
Comment 03/06/14: The corp has completely missed the market. I'm in STG which is rapidly becoming extinct and commodotised. They could go back to a disruptive model for H/W acquistiion but god forbid short them pain for long term gain. Our client support group lost 5/9 excluding the Lenovo fiasco. All senior all extremely competent. Where is the organic revenue growth? What happened to the revenue from 100+ acquisition addiction. Were they just done to financially engineer results. How about being a company that provides what customers need/want and that people want to work for? Writing is on the wall. The Board needs to take action soon to sweep Armonk and restore vision, employee and client confidence. SW being commoditized. Services is labor contrained and going to 3rd world delivery. Financial engineering the earnings works well doesn't it. When there is 1 share of stock left and $40 of earnings there will be a lot of empty buildings and ruined lives. -hardware guru-
Comment 03/06/14: Seriously IBM??? Why don't you have Watson find out a solution for the mass layoffs IBM is doing instead of becoming a food truck? ROTFLMAO. -Bill-
Comment 03/06/14: @FirstTimeLaidOff- I'm indicating my availability as the week after the final date they gave me. Reading the packet, you're 'expected' to be available to wrap up your position, and then there's the tricky wording about if you are offered an equivalent position internally and turn it down, you become ineligible for the severance I wouldn't risk them finding out you got something new and 'offering' you something you'd never want to actually do. So I'm talking to companies and ramping up on the additional skillsets they're interested in. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/06/14: @-FirstTimeLaidOff- if you're given 30 day notice then you are still employed during those 30 day after that you can apply for Unemployment. Lots of people say it's firing but it's not. It's a layoff and be sure to tell UI that, if you say fired then you won't be entitled to collect unemployment. -whatever-
Comment 03/06/14: Expect more Rometty Roulette once 1st QTR results are in. -anonymous-member-
Comment 03/06/14: -Watson's tumbler-: Technically, if labor law recently has not been amended or changed, a manager that has no personnel (direct reports) or hire/fire authority (e.g. staff manager) can join a union. NB: since you are a manager you can be fired without cause. It depends on your conviction and how brave you are to join the good fight. -WhoCanJoin-
Comment 03/06/14: IBM is trying to hide the fact that Southbury, CT has only building B and the CSB open. Bldg. C was closed and Bldg. A has been closed for almost a decade. Somers, NY (Westchester county) also has at least one OB closed. Other IBM sites also have vacancies in office space. Where do you think these IBMers went? In an RA no less. The ones left probably work from home..for now..awaiting the next RAs that will come like each sunset. -sby_willie-
Comment 03/06/14: February jobs report is due out tomorrow and I think it will be dreadful or anemic at best (maybe $150K jobs created).
The employees RAed in September like have lost the unemployment insurance if they are still unemployed in RTP. Six weeks from now the rest also lose their unemployment insurance that they have paid into all their working career. Of course IBM is to blame for this. IBM is negative job growth enemy #1 in this country. They also did not sign on to pledge to make an effort to hire the long term unemployed. IBM wants tax breaks and handouts: The CREATE GOOD JOBS AND PROVE it with real employment numbers! -anonymous2-

Comment 03/06/14: Words are important. The word 'Personnel' has been replaced by the term 'Human Resources.' Now managers say "Have you got a resource?" when they mean 'a person.' A resource is something that you use up and throw away. Need I say more? -Anon-
Comment 03/06/14: Question for my fellow RA-ed...for those of you interviewing during these 30 days (or have interviewed during the 30 day notice), how are you addressing your employment status? Are we still technically employed through the end of the month? Or is it preferable to just say we are laid off (even if we started the job hunt before the RA?). Or don't say anything unless it comes up (or it's past Mar 31)? -FirstTimeLaidOff-
Comment 03/06/14: To -Serverguy- I checked my profile, and saw the same IBM Business Strategist/Corporate "person" had viewed my profile as well,during the week of Feb 15. Apparently, you can only see who's viewed your profile by upgrading to Premium though. -changeisgood-
Comment 03/06/14: About this whole Watson push. I would think that considering the head of Watson bailing out recently.. he sees no way to achieve the $10B market Ginny envisioned - while no doubt smoking ganga perhaps. The management is not engaged in high margin business with high barriers to entry like TJ Watson Jr did with System/360 decades ago. Analytics and cloud will become commoditized very soon and will be driven down to a point were it is no longer compatible with 100% margin IBM business model. Service is already being pushed down to low levels of margin by other entrants with access to cheap slave labor pool in developing countries. -Observer-
Comment 03/06/14: NY Times on Shenzen strike: -Anon-

Comment 03/06/14: -Anon- said: "It seems like the new direction of IBM is heavily based on Watson doing well. To be honest I am not sure there is even a market for this, and it will be interesting to see the direction IBM decides to take when Watson fails. I am sensing IBM we will have a new leader soon," Whether it pans out or not, IBM needs new management. I cannot be confident in management that is absolutely soulless in its treatment of its employees, is deceptive and lacks vision. They follow and react to market changes and competitors and badly that. Their prime objective is to make Goldman Sachs scum and Wall Street investors rich while lining their own pockets by putting the long term survival of the firm in jeopardy. Unlike the Watsons, they have no passion for the business nor concern for their employees - only Wall Street scum. I think by the 2020, Think pads will have the IBM logo again. By then, IBM will have been sold, lock stock and barrel, to Lenovo and will be its subsidiary and the logo will be a servicemark of Lenovo. These are my opinions only and not of IBM's. -Anon2-
Comment 03/06/14: So, this is where our GDP has gone, to buy Ginni a Lunch Wagon. Step right up folks, get your burrito's, RA's, Sell Off's, Stock Options.
"When hordes of technorati and live music fans gather here for the annual South By Southwest (SXSW) festival next week, they'll have plenty of culinary treats to choose from. But we have something really different to bring to the table"

"IBM's Watson food truck. You've probably watched Watson compete on TV, but now for the first time you can see, taste and smell the results of its creativity. The bright orange truck will serve up exotic delicacies including Indian Tumeric Paella, Italian Grilled Lobster and Ecuadorian Strawberry Dessert. Unlike the menus of the other trucks, these dishes were created through a collaboration between Watson, a cognitive computer, and award-winning chefs at New York's Institute of Culinary Education (ICE)."
Comment 03/05/14: If your worried about telling your team mates or fellow IBMers about being laid off, don't be! What will they do, RA you? Management makes it out like it's a "big secret". Screw them! Tell the world about it! It's not your fault and your not a bunch of slackers (PBC 3 or not). New employers know these things happen. Grieve a little for the job loss, then go out and make more money than your manager.
I hate the way IBM can do what ever they want like a big bully, while their employees walk on egg shells hoping it won't be me. I got it in July. It's been tough going, but I wake up every day saying today I'm getting a job offer. Get in touch with other IBMers who lost their jobs. Help support each other in finding new positions. My friend (RA 7/2013) and I send each other job leads all the time.We also bolster each other up. It's good to have someone who is walking in your shoes to talk with. I know that new position is just around the corner for me. In regards to Roadkill 2015 - all the C levels have been with IBM for years and many just care about increasing their bank accounts for when they retire in the next few years. They will leave the mess for someone else to clean up. Join the Union for all you others. -IBM, a Lenovo Company-

Comment 03/05/14: This is always so sad. They missed me this time, but my time will come. We all know this but we don't join until its too late. There is going to be a whirlwind soon. The hardware business is done. The cloud uses cheap standard hardware built by the cloud vendor. The software is open source. This collapses the IBM business model. You don't get hardware sales, software licenses, don't need salesmen for those things or consultants to teach customers to use and operate the systems they aren't buying anymore. The microelectronics div is gone. IBM doesn't have the volume of server sales to amortize the cost of new generations of microprocessor designs. You can't compete with companies that sell 100 million processor chips a year if you only make a few tens of thousands. Your costs price you out of the market. So all of us that remain in those areas need to plan for the upcoming changes. At least if we join the alliance we will have some say in how those changes are implemented. -LostInBand10-
Comment 03/05/14: This latest round of RA's is bad enough, but the media and other folks have forgotten about the 35,000 IBM employee's(mostly offshore employees)that were transitioned to Concentrix due to the purchase of IBM Customer Care BPO group by Synnex (which was originally announced on September 2013). With the latest round of firings, IBM will probably have less than 395,000 employees globally. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/05/14: I apologize for saying the words "IBM garbage." Although some of the non System/Z or System/P related software has a lot left to be desired especially when it comes to value, I must say IBM hardware X, P and Z are some of the best designed in the world including systems software. I would like to say thanks to you all that made my life great for designing such reliable systems. Good luck to all that were 'RAed'. Hopefully affirmative action Ginny herself will be RAed and replaced with more competent and honest management. I don't care if it is Linda Sandford or Fred Sandford, we need a change in management! Support the alliance as well. TJ Watson(s) rolling over in grave(s). -IBM Watcher-
Comment 03/05/14: Over the years, what exactly has this Alliance done to protect IBMers from further RAs etc? Just wondering. I was RAed and I am over 50. I have over 30 years with IBM. -StupidQuestion-
Alliance reply: It is very hard to protect IBM employees from RA's without a union contract and worker involvement. My question to you is why didn't you join and help us get to a contract so we can stop these job cuts. After 30 years you couldn't see what was coming?

Comment 03/05/14: RA'd 3/3/2014 Band 9' PBC 2, 35 years with the company, STG z Sales. Not bitter but a sad day for all. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/05/14: It seems like the new direction of IBM is heavily based on Watson doing well. To be honest I am not sure there is even a market for this, and it will be interesting to see the direction IBM decides to take when Watson fails. I am sensing IBM we will have a new leader soon, but before that comes we need to push harder than ever to get the name of the Alliance out there. If your co-workers do not know what the Alliance is send them the link. This isn't something we should feel bad about; but too many of us do. The Alliance can help us receive better treatment, treatment that all employees deserve. Let's turn this around. Join the Alliance now, I am now. -Anon-
Comment 03/05/14: Hearing of more cuts in IBM Canada STG System x platform, FTSS, Slaesreps and managers, 9 so far, also IBM Canada Techline and Customer Care dept got hit. -Anon-
Comment 03/05/14: From -Fay-'s link on strike at IBM Shenzhen. Some banners read:
"Improve the terms. Pay for my youth" "Workers are not products. We are not resources. Please don't sell us. We deserve respect and have human rights." -Anon-

Comment 03/05/14: As they cut hard working good people, IBM thinks those left behind will pick up the extra work. Most of us already are more than booked full time, so this time around, I said "No more, I'm overflowing with work." IF everyone of us said the same thing, what would happen? Enough is enough. I'm joining today, because I've had enough -Just say No-
Comment 03/05/14:
IBMer's should be doing this instead of just crying on this forum... -Best Wishes IBMers-
Comment 03/05/14: Just for your count, the 3 from Dept (Endicott) Me 63 old, 42 of IBM
Another more than 50, more than 20 years IBM.
Another more than 50, and 20 or more IBM.
Another more than 50, and also many years of IBM. And the sad thing, most in there are more than 50. Few below that. -Anonymous-

Comment 03/05/14: -Over55- In NC you have to wait to collect unemployment until your severance money runs out. If you are eligible for the old pension plan you will be able to collect unemployment concurrantly due to IBM freezing the pension plan. You might have to appeal this the first time around and have to show proof that IBM has not contributed to the plan. ... If you contact the Employment Security Commission (an oxymoron I know) they will be able to assist you on when/how to file. If you live in the Durham area you might want to call the Raleigh office. I have a child who lives in Durham and got very poor service until she started contacting the Raleigh office. Wish you well. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 03/05/14: Amazing. People post on here pretending to not be aware that this has been going on for 20 years. Then there are those having their lawyers look things over for possible law suits. Hint. IBM has more lawyers then you and 20 years experience not losing law suits over firing at will employees. Save your money, anger and frustration. Those that are left on the board in this checkers game IBM management is playing with your lives, guess who is next. The rules are IBM can fire you whenever they want. They can give whatever reason they want or no reason at all. Any reason they give will be a lie or meant to give your manager the satisfaction of belittling you one last time because they really dislike you for whatever reason. IBM hates what they do not control. They cannot control you joining the union and they cannot control you finding another job and quitting. If you live in an area where jobs are few and options are limited the union is your best option. Double union membership every month and watch IBM start to get really scared. Do nothing and your the ones who should be scared. The next bell tolls for you -Exodus2007-
Comment 03/05/14: What is really sad to me is that most RAed IBMers don't know what benefits they lost or still have once the are gone from IBM. From simple things like how much is my severance? Do I get medical benefits? should I take my vacation days? Can I file for unemployment? etc. IBM feeds off this naivety and lack of knowing these things. IBM HR does a truly lousy job of telling, communicating to IBM employees in all regards. And this is to be directly blamed on IBM management and their lack of true leadership. The Alliance communicates. And has been communicating quite well with what they have since 1999. But you have to listen and take heed their message and JOIN for them to remain as this communicating force. Let's try to work to get IBM to call off an entire RA, better employment for IBMers, and preserve retiree benefits before we lose them. We can try to do this but only through the Alliance@IBM CWA Local 1701! -sby_willie-
Comment 03/05/14: IBM lost its charm in India and they got bunch of folks from other companies and screwed IBM and they victimised employees. No executive was sacked it is all the nonsenses of executive. -Murthy-
Comment 03/05/14: I was a member of the RA class of 2002 who just had his IBM medical group plans terminated. IBM US headcount peaked at 250k and is now less than 88k. All transnational co. like IBM decided long ago they could make more money off foreign nations as opposed to the saturated US one so they shipped jobs overseas to provide a form of bribe to do more business with IBM. Putin just threatened to confiscate all US assets in Russia. He did us all a favor showing how globalism has weakened us all because part of that threat would be IBM assets and jobs. Ok let them have a few IBM assets and McDs but China is another threat. There both nations would have a gun to each other's head. The cold war has been replaced with economic and cyber forms and the middle class has been caught right in the middle; what we did to Iran is now coming home. If you are stuck in IBM with high service time you have only two options quit or join the union because you are walking the last mile right now.... -ctman2-
Comment 03/05/14: Since Lou became CEO, IBMUS employees have had no job security. He accomplished mass layoffs in Endicott and Endicott has never recovered. Unfortunately without a union there will never be any accountability for what he did to Endicott. Endicott today is on its back economically. How many more towns will Sam and Ginni destroy. The only thing that will stop this corporate destruction and greed is a union. -ANA-
Alliance reply: Ana, many of us worked for Endicott for several years and saw what you saw; however, there are other US locations that have been devastated just as much if not more than Endicott. You are correct that these locations, i.e. Endicott, have not recovered. This was not just Lou Gerstner's idea or plan. This was a concerted effort by major US corporations to fulfill their quest for unquenchable greed and power, by offshoring millions of US jobs in the name of cheap labor. Hindsight is 20/20; but if IBM had been unionized in 1994, the plans of those Corporate executives would have been truncated greatly. Layoffs may have still happened; but they would have been measured and the workers laid-off would have been called back when work picked up.

Comment 03/05/14: I'd encourage everyone to take the time to complete Glassdoor reviews for IBM (while keeping it factual) so that people know what is going on within the company. Way too many planted reviews there suckering people to believe that IBM is a great place to work. -jbod-
Comment 03/05/14: So - can exempt (non-overtime), but non-management (still a worker bee) join the union? Seems like there's a little bit of conflicting information out there in that overlap. -Watson's tumbler-
Alliance reply: Yes.

Comment 03/05/14: Comment from the Alliance facebook page:
"Maybe a strike, protest, news or something can occur when Ginni is in the Dallas area next week. Ginni Rometty Town Hall - Coppell Location, Cafeteria area, 1177 S Belt Line Rd, Coppell, TX Mon. March 10, 12 noon - 1:15 pm CT" -member-

Comment 03/05/14: It's sad to read many of these posts, especially the lack of awareness to these staff reductions. This has been going on virtually annually since 1994. The numbers are small today compared to the mass firings of 94 & 95. Every IBMer needs to understand... management sets hard numbers. Years of service don't matter, PBC ratings/past performance don't matter, critical skills don't matter, personal hardships don't matter... only in limited cases "Protected Status" might matter but they'll replace those with unprotected top performers without hesitation. Managers/Execs get RA'ed... there's just less due to about a 30:1 or higher ratio of non-managers. All that matters are the numbers to meet the cost take out. You're also seeing higher proportion of over 40/50 age groups with high years of service because that's the predominant demographic left. Outside of delivery centers in the US very little younger, new hires have been brought on board in the last decade. All of you have a choice... organize or take your chances. Remember the odds always favor the house. Best of luck to all of you. -Anon-
Comment 03/05/14: Folks, Using the word "fired" implies the person who lost their job did something to deserve it. I say I was forced into early retirement. Semantics I know but one has to do everything positive to come out ahead after the loss of a job, especially in the manner IBM let us all go. -No_Respect_For_The_Individual-
Alliance reply: Use whatever term you wish to, obviously. Historically, "Fired" is a euphemism and an old terminology for sure. IBM's first leader Thomas J. Watson Sr. was "fired" from one of his first jobs. The term is said to have come from the company taking the person's desk outdoors, and lighting it on fire. Once that happened, you knew you were done. The connotation "Fired", meant losing your job, ever since. The reason that "fired" is more realistic to use instead of "layoff" is that Unions typically had 'layoffs" when the company's business was weak and without much work. Once work picked up, those 'laid-off" were asked to come back to work. Since IBM cut jobs en masse in 1994, for the first time, those cuts have been referred to as "layoffs". IBM is to blame for misusing the terminology of a union shop to characterize their workers losing their jobs.
No matter what you call it, it is a job loss just the same.

Comment 03/05/14: It is interesting to check your linkedin profiles these days. Some interesting people visiting them "Business / Corporate Strategist at IBM". Would this be part of there RA selecting process? -serverguy-
Comment 03/05/14: In 30 years at big blue I've not seen anything like the toxic work environment I'm in. I got word in GBS "you are safe, for now". I've joined the Alliance for $15 a month. I've learned much the past week from this site, Thank you! If YOU are reading this post and are not paying dues, I challenge you - join the Alliance now! -Black-n-Blue-
Comment 03/05/14: IBM has given 30 days notice to the people being RAed. Does the WARN Act apply ? The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act A Guide to Advance Notice of Closings and Layoffs -Lloyd-
Comment 03/04/14: I worked for IBM/Lexmark and was "Phillipine"d after 20+ years. You guys have it made with the packages you are getting. -Bob-
Comment 03/04/14: If you reside in CT, under the prior pension plan, taking retirement benefits, and looking for work you can receive unemployment benefits. No reduction based on pension amount. Is because IBM stopped contributing to plan at end 2007. Be sure to print prior plan document on net benefits. -Anon-
Comment 03/04/14: I am not sure if IBM's foray into cloud or Watson will pan out. Cloud is now overcrowded with competitors and the margins will be driven down to the 2% margin model which companies like Amazon and Costco are built to handle. IBM is a lazy 90% margin company and survives by duping customers into buying their overpriced garbage. IBM is not built like Costco(retail) or Amazon(retail and cloud) to handle the 2% margin business like the cloud will become. Also Watson will be running into a lot of head wind from other competitors like Google. Even the head of Watson bailed out recently. The only thing that is proprietary to IBM and will be hard to duplicate and has a high cost barrier to entry for competitors and has high margins is the tride and true Mainframe/System Z and its software (IMS, DB2 etc). Unfortunately IBM management has their heads so far up their a**es looting IBM, that they will not see it until its too late.
"I can't help but wonder if Saxena bailed because he knew this wasn't going to work and he decided to get out while the getting is good. With The Entrepreneur's Fund, he's back on familiar territory - supporting and nurturing start-ups. But now he doesn't have to get Watson to an unrealistic level of income." -IBM Watcher-
Comment 03/04/14: From what I see, your PBC number/rankings doesn't matter when it comes to RA. PBC is a fraud/carrot stick trick you to make you work like dog. There are 2 numbers that matter, your age and your salary. That's it! The higher the 2 numbers get, the higher the chance the bullet is chambered in your game of Russian Roulette and IBM employment. I would recommend against doing more than 40 hours. Do 40 hours for what you are paid and go home. Why risk your family and your health and cause irreversible damage. Don't do this for IBM for God's sake! -Asd-
Comment 03/04/14: I guess the idiots in IBM management didn't realize that the Chinese won't roll over and take it like US workers. If you use chrome browser you can translate to english: -Fay-
Comment 03/04/14: -upset-: She should have taken a disability leave and then maternity leave. At least it would delay the inevitable and give her more money in the short term and less medical costs in the long run. But LIFE@IBM IS NOT GOOD. And this is solid proof! RESPECT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL(s) (her baby) and family oriented IBM is clearly NOT! -trexibmer-
Comment 03/04/14: I got a response via email from HR about the OWBPA requirement to provide numbers. This is what they said: "IBM will no longer be providing the age and employee data as per the direction of IBM Legal as this is not required and there were concerns with employee privacy based on providing the information." Clearly, IBM Legal has spent a lot of time working on this, to find a loophole for some time. I have my attorney looking at it. Has anyone else? I was referred to page 32 of the package, which basically tells you to use the Open Door process, and then arbitration. Really? -NotmyIBM-
Comment 03/04/14: From all my years of seeing these mass firings, there have been VERY few managers that have gotten the boot. Standard operating procedures is usually whole teams are eliminated or off shored and the only person left in the US is the manager. -Anon-
Comment 03/04/14: Everyone in my group that was fired (RA'd) was over the age of 45. IBM is hiding the fact that it is firing older folks and only hiring recent college graduates. -Over The Hill and waiting for my turn-
Comment 03/04/14: As part of creating my new PBCs for 2014, I had to align my goals with the remainder of mgmt up through Ginni. This included a reference to being "maniacal"
1: affected with or suggestive of madness <maniacal laughter>
2 : characterized by ungovernable excitement or frenzy : frantic <a maniacal mob>
After all that has happened, our fearless leader still thinks the few of us remaining will follow her anywhere. Most of us that remain, would not pull her out of the water if she was drowning. At best, we all play along for the benefit of another 3 months of pay. With absolutely no offense towards anybody, anywhere, wasn't it Hitler in the closing days of WWII, that ordered his non existent phantom armies to the battle, thinking that somehow he could save Germany from defeat? Is it just me, or should Ginni be wearing her own set of jack-boots. Again, no offense intended to ANYBODY (other than perhaps Ginni).
Comment 03/04/14: Welcome to the party. RAs have been going on for years at IBM. In all honesty I do not know how anyone could not know of someone who was not affected at one time or another. It is what it is, for those who got RAed move on and for those still at IBM keep your resume up to date. -been there-
Comment 03/04/14: At least 10 z hardware t-sales given 30 days yesterday most older. -Anon-
Comment 03/04/14: To all those who were just RA-ed: Make sure you TAKE all your personal choice holidays. You will lose them if not taken before your departure date. SAVE your vacation time. IBM will PAY you for the unused vacation time that was not taken. (It is pro-rated based on the number of full months you have already worked this (2014) calendar year. If you had an unofficial deal with your manager and had vacation days carried over from previous years into 2014, you will NEED to take them before you depart. DO NOT code those days in claims as vacation days, or it will be counted as vacation time taken off your 2014 year totals. Good luck everyone! (Both those who were RA-ed and those who are left and will need to take up even more job responsibilities). -miss_understanding-
Comment 03/04/14: I was RAed in 2010. For those over 50 yrs old. You can look forward to working contract jobs at 6 to 9 month intervals. Good luck and may GOD be with you. -Anon-
Comment 03/04/14: WBUR (Boston's NPR station) did an interview today with a reporter from Britain's Guardian newspaper concerning IBM's Roadkill 2015 and the recent layoffs. See -Anon-
Comment 03/04/14: @-Notes- System z will be next. -anon-
Comment 03/04/14: -anonMHV- Looking at last year's figures Sandford is selling her IBM shares like they are going out of fashion. See 02/01/14 receives 18,513 shares at $0. Same day sells 8,738 for $1,543,044. Nice work Linda and all with no bonus. Maybe she knows something. -OnThinIce-
Comment 03/04/14: -Over55-: My wife was RA'ed last year in RTP after 20 years. She got the same package. You need to wait for your package to run out of cash, then you can apply for unemployment. Trust me, I tried and just because it's in one lump sum does not make the start/end date change for unemployment. No way around it because they verify with IBM no matter what you say on forms. Good luck and there is life after IBM! I'm a former IBMer, 3rd generation family and wife found awesome job about 5 months after RA last year. Keep your chin up and land another job in a few months after you rest and you'll have money in the bank! :-) -Ex-IBMer-
Comment 03/04/14: The Strike on SHENZHEN China is from Lenovo's acquisition. It's a joint venture factory, with lower pay comparing to IBM China regular staff. They are not satisfied with the contract termination compensation. -blessu-
Comment 03/04/14: To anyone RA'd - There is a group call The Chosen on LinkedIn EXCLUSIVLY for RA'd individuals. There is good info on navigating through the post IBM world. -StillBlue-
Alliance reply: It would be a good jesture if some one mentioned Alliance@IBM in the LinkedIn group.

Comment 03/04/14: Sad but true, I got RA's yesterday out of Tampa, FL. I worked as a Technical Specialist on the IBM Storage Side supporting one of the big four IBM distributors and over 1000 of their IBM resellers. Never got below 2+ on my PBC, won the 2013 IBM Eminence Award and it still could not save my job. As I found out the reason was because a big chunk of the funding for my headcount came from the System x side of IBM. It use to come from IBM Storage, but my department code was switched last fall. My manager could never tell me why it was switched, but now I know. What is deeply disturbing and a clear indication of very bad leadership, there was zero consideration for the current capabilities and skills of the RA?d employees. If someone had looked at my resume and skills profile they would have seen that I have many of the skills IBM needs to grow; Cloud, Big Data, Analytics, Power Systems, software. No one even looked and no one evened cared to look. Of course, IBM ordered their managers to pull all of their non-critical job postings off the job board - making it next to impossible to find another role within area where skills are needed. Oh well, it's now IBM's loss and a competitor's gain!! -BigBlueScrewed-
Comment 03/04/14: How do I handle Unemployment in NC. Receiving 26 wk Sev pay.30+ years service. Now my co-workers have isolated me like I have the plague. If they only knew Ibm has them on the list. Also next RA will be with maybe no Sev pay. -Over55-
Comment 03/04/14: Guys, if you are a part of System Storage or P systems you WILL be RAed. Expect this to happen. -Notes-
Comment 03/04/14: A colleague of mine from GBS was RAd during (her) very advanced pregnancy. IBM was aware she was pregnant before the RAs started. -upset-
Comment 03/04/14: Ginni got nearly 70,000 shares of stock at $0 around Feb 1. Talking about a hypocrite -anybody notice-
Comment 03/04/14: All we want to know are ages of all the RAed employees. I don't care about their former titles. Let me draw my own conclusions as I look at how skewed the graph is, at greater than 40, 45, and 50. IBM knows they are specifically targeting the older employees, otherwise they would be more transparent. Seems like a lot of 2+ employees. 2+ is the new 1. -Ha-
Comment 03/04/14: Any System x ATS/FTSS got RA'd? or are their turn coming after Lenovo hand picked the ones they want to keep.. -Anon_x-
Comment 03/04/14: Hey Ginni, If IBM were the house of cards, you would be President Walker and Thomas Rosamillia would be Frank Underwood. Why has IBM recently failed it's stockholders and whose advice have you been taking? Coincidence? -House of Stock Buybacks-
Comment 03/04/14: Just watched the news clip of IBM workers on strike at Shenzhen, China. I must say fellow Americans and Canadians are taking the RA rather meekly. Did you bring your Vaseline? The buzz on Weibo is very negative on IBM. Ginny just wasted gas and time visiting Beijing trying to rebuild trust. IBM will see decline in the middle kingdom in the foreseeable future. -No longer blue-
Comment 03/04/14: Firings - I'm not going to call them "resource actions" - hit the Technical Sales group in the Great State of Texas. Here's the breakdown of the body count as far as I know:
Enterprise Storage FTSS - 5
Industry Storage FTSS - 5
Enterprise Power FTSS - 6
Industry Power FTSS -5
Tape Systems FTSS - 12
Storage Sales - 5
Power Sales - 5
Power ATS - 8
I was NOT affected and am now one of the three Storage FTSSes for the entire state. Guess Ginni's really trying to "grow the business", huh? -Ano Nymous-

Comment 03/04/14: -Concerned IBMer-. I don't know what a 1.5 PBC rating is. I assume you were rated a 2+ and your manager gave you some line that you were very close to a 1. Total BS to get you to work more hours etc etc
To -Embarrassed-. Don't be embarrassed. It doesn't matter who you are or what you've done you were let go because of the insane 2015 roadmap EPS target. It is not a question of if you will get laid off in IBM just a question of when it will be your turn. Good luck! -longtimebeemer-

Comment 03/04/14: I almost made 30 years but got the call yesterday. I am a solid performer but guess it doesn't matter. Management seemed to take care of themselves. STG Technical Sales. -Almost30years-
Comment 03/04/14: RA'd from Austin after 17 years, 40+ age. I never had a rating below 2 but was working remotely, so RA was not unexpected. About OWBPA stats not being included, my take is that would make the waiver for age discrimination suits unenforceable. But just the fact that they're disregarding the rules and not disclosing the numbers, as maddening as it is, doesn't imply that they're discriminating or you could win a lawsuit. Maybe IBM thinks they have a reasonable case against such action and they don't want to disclose numbers, so they disregard the regulation. From what I read, it's not easy to win an age discrimination suit, particularly in a mass lay-off where the purpose is to cut costs. Selecting senior workers with higher salaries for termination is not illegal. Circuit City tried that strategy (it was disastrous). If IBM goes and hires a younger worker to fill your position (same band and job description), then you might have a case. Bottom line is that you have to prove they're firing you because of your age, not because they're cutting costs by eliminating higher paid positions. But I'm not a laywer and would be interested to hear a legal opinion about the OWPBA not being included. -STG_Pseries_RA-
Comment 03/04/14: After asking who I send my signed Separation Agreement to I was told I would be asked to sign a separation agreement on the last day of employment - an agreement that will be sent to me - apparently not the agreement my manager emailed to me after our RA conversation. Here is the reply I received: "I will send you the Separation Agreement once your exit has been processed. You will need to sign it on your exit date or after it. Then you will send it to an address I will provide. (I will also send you a shipping label)". I have sent a follow up email for clarification that the Separation Agreement which states "YOU ARE ADVISED TO CONSULT WITH A LAWYER BEFORE YOU SIGN THIS AGREEMENT" is in fact not the Separation Agreement I will be signing. Now I know how IBM's customers feel. One statement made by Ginni that I will never forget is "the power of a story". STORY - "a fictitious tale, shorter and less elaborate than a novel." -SoTrue-
Comment 03/04/14: I was RA'd yesterday & I am relieved, honestly. As a newbie IBMer, I don't have to dread doing my job anymore. As a Sys X Specialist I was never onboarded into my role, nor transitioned, never provided guidance as how to navigate the "IBM waters", the Client Reps ignored my efforts to work w/them and when I took the issue to their mgr, he ignored me as well indicate that x86 is irrelevant to his quota. When I took that to my manager, he did nothing to support me or the brand. I was more technical than my FTSS and when I asked for additional technical training, was provided BS ppt slides Sales uses. My inside rep in CAN spent their time smoking/chatting w/coworkers - again I reached out to their as well as mine as nothing was done. When I indicated I would like to continue my edu/professional development w/IBM he provided 0 interest, guidance or understanding as I was direct to watch videos online or find someone myself to reach out to (keep in mind, I am new to the company). In addition, when I asked about a mentor & mentioned possible areas I was interested in, he provided 0 information or contacts for me to reach out to and discredited each team/group I was interested in as "they're going to be laid off, or "the morons", or "desk monkeys w/no future", etc. His recommendation was to stay in System X! Also, he provided 0 recommendations for mentors. I asked for the baseline info for my territory so I could understand my quota, the "potential weight" of my territory & wasn't provided anything - again, how am I to know where to spend the bulk of my time if the Client Reps aren't interested in selling my product and he provides no clarity. From 1 half year to the next, my territory was changed - accounts constantly being shuffled. All in all, my job was a glorified cold caller AND I STILL PERFORMED at 75% of my rev/prof quotas but that still wasn't good enough. In the end, I had my PBC last Fri, was told I was safe and then on Mon was told I was RA'd. -NowFormerIBMer-
Comment 03/04/14: To those of you who were fired by IBM and are now asking: "Can the union start a class action suit, or can the union help with this or that". What have you done to help the union? Have you joined or donated to the union yet? To those of you not fired yet, join the union now. The more who join, the more powerful the union will become. If you stick your head in the sand and do nothing, we will continue to get the same treatment from IBM. -JustDoIt-
Comment 03/04/14: Forty to Fifty IBMers were laid off in the INM Federal unit lead out of Bethesda Maryland. Also several of IBMs Advanced Technical Support personnel were let go. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/04/14: NYS employees not safe. RA postponed. Moving towards a Services & SW Company. PBC's don't matter. They choose your rating long before you enter your accomplishments. -Voldemort-
Comment 03/04/14: xServer factory against Severance in Shenzhen China. -IBM Shenzhen Factory Worker Strikes-

Comment 03/04/14: STG Storage presales hit yesterday -BlueNoMore-
Comment 03/04/14: IBM China Shenzhen is on strike. -IBM China Shenzhen-
Comment 03/04/14: When it comes to layoffs favoritism still plays a strong role in IBM , so we are all surprised when we are R'ad. No matter how much work we put in, work all the holidays putting our work first and family last , in the end we are screwed only god iIs watching, the truth the lies etc. feeling sad...thank god for this site we can express ourselves now and not be suppressed. -Anon-
Comment 03/04/14: For the older workers and the Alliance talking about a promised pension, I am a younger worker that was promised the same thing. I have 17 years in. I was pomised a lifetime pension when I started. That was taken away from me for a Cash Balance plan. I can guarantee you one thing, if you are on the old plan and under the 30 year mark for it, you are pretty much gone before you meet that bridge date. IBM wants as few people on the pension as possible. When I hired on, I was offered the promise of a career, not a job. The first 6 years were a career. The next 5 years were a job. 3 years after that I thought I had a career again. Unfortunately, that is not the case, just a job. Anyone remaining needs to treat IBM as a job and watch out for yourself. Look externally for a job. Once you find one,give your 2 week notice, take all PC days and accumulated vacation, and don't train people your job. -BrokenPromises-
Comment 03/04/14: Did anyone get RA'ed with two consecutive PBC 3s, and if so, did you get the full severance package? -Anonymous-
Comment 03/04/14: Yesterday, thousands IBM employees went on strike against the layoff plan.
-Thousands IBM shenzhen employees went on strike-
Comment 03/04/14: Very unusual strike is happening in a IBM supplier factory at Shenzhen, China. More than 1000 workers participated. The factory is moving away due to the X86 acquisition. You can see a video @ -ChineseLabor-
Comment 03/04/14: I got the axe today in div 12 after 15 years and THREE consecutive 1 PBC ratings and zero raise over this time. Believe me, I'm not a butt kisser, hence probably why I'm getting the boot, but I did EVERYTHING right. Every process timely and precisely. I EARNED every 1 I got. Y'all know the game and you know its not easy to achieve that. Averaged working on $50M in Power revenue a year for over 10 years. I haven't read the package contents yet, but looks like I just got it. I supposedly will still get that great 6% bonus for 1 performers, but we'll see. I've had other opportunities with IBM and not sure I want any of them. I know the game on jobs now. They won't hire across division or those that have been RA'd. I'm sure we're black flagged somehow. It would only temporarily delay the inevitable. -Dumped in ATS-
Comment 03/04/14: RA'd last Thursday, 25+ years, 3/31 my last day. To add insult to injury, there is a new law in NY, as of 1/1/14. You do not get unemployment until your Separation lump sum is used up 6 months from now. And, in October the amount goes from $405 to $420. The DOL website is very vague but if you Google it there is lots of info out there and it was reported in the Syracuse paper. -Anonymous in NY-
Comment 03/03/14: So Buffet was on CNBC this morning. when asked about his IBM investment he said he loved the share repurchases but he also did say he wants to see revenue growth from IBM. Good luck Ginny... my bet is Ginny will be RAed by year end. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/03/14: Given IBMs constant practice of RA'ing older employees, why has Alliance not organized a class action lawsuit with the EEOC against IBM? I would certainly join that lawsuit and I'm sure many of the readers on this page would do so as well. So why hasn't it happened yet? -RAdToday-
Comment 03/03/14: I was RA'd today. Almost 31 years. 2+ appraisal. Still a bit shell shocked, but more importantly, when I called my HR Partner to request the OWBPA stats, she told me that IBM was not required to provide those to anyone. From what I have read about the law, this seems to conflict completely. Have a call in to my labor attorney to discuss before I sign anything. -30+years-
Comment 03/03/14: Like many of you, my manager gave me a 3 rating and used the RA to ensure that I will be let go even though I have only been with the company for a short period of time. QUESTION: is the RA considered to be confidential or do they have the right to make an announcement and tell your team, extended team and clients that their version of what happened? Are my confidentiality rights being violated if I haven't shared this information with anyone? -Bamboozled-
Comment 03/03/14: X_number- Regarding your Q - How many employees works for System X right now? Just around 7500 or much higher than this number? Based on the words of a BUE, Lenovo is only taking 1/3 of the System x employees and the rest will be package out. Only repeating what I hear.. -Anon-
Comment 03/03/14: @Zheng: I was RA'd last year and was hired a long time ago before I came to the US. In my case the service years outside US counted towards my severance. So, go for it and make sure your manager and yourself put this question in front of HR. -Fairness101-
Comment 03/03/14: didn't come as a shock, thank you to this board for warning me or I would have lost it. embarrassed and haven't told anyone yet. My presales tech person got it also. STG Sales North America -Embarrassed-
Comment 03/03/14: One person alone cannot make a difference, and it is only by joining with others that our voices can be heard. I am very grateful to the Alliance for the website they maintain and the sharing of information. For years I've taking advantage of the site without contributing a dime and its about time that that changes. So, as of today, I've joined the union. Not sure if I'll be around long enough to benefit, but I have friends and co-workers that are years away from retirement and a union is their only hope. -new member-
Comment 03/03/14: As a sign of support, both for folks laid off as well as people who survived, I changed my status from associate to voting member. I would encourage other IBM'ers to do the same. At this point, it is pretty clear that management in Armonk does not care about the employees at all. With the relentless focus on the EPS target of 20$ per share for 2015, it is even questionable if they really care about IBM's shareholders or customers. If IBM cared about it's customers, it would focus on developing innovative products. -Guest-
Comment 03/03/14: -Willie Rae- While it might be possible to discern who is being laid off it doesn't matter. IBM is breaking the law by not providing this information in the packet provided to the employee. This information is required so the employee and their legal representation can make a learned decision on whether to waive their rights to sue for age discrimination. While I am sure the information can help unionization efforts I feel the lack of it is only to make it harder to determine that IBM is firing people based on age and avoid lawsuits. -anaoymous_retiree-
Comment 03/03/14: Dumped at 58, 18m after being enticed from a position I had held for 12Y. Not very amused. -PSSTOFF-
Comment 03/03/14: Noticing a bit of a pattern within these posts: unusually low PBC (3) than layoff. Resume is out now as I went from 1.5 in to a 3 in 6 months. Manager said "he had to work within a pre-defined Matrix and some people had to get a 3;". Not earned but rather 'had to get'. Seriously? He has yet to quantify how he made those decisions. I just had my best quarter ever, but guess manager is positioning to cover his favs! IBM is by far the sleaziest company I have worked with in my entire career. I hope my resignation saves at least one other position. -Concerned IBMer-
Comment 03/03/14: Willie Rae - "The reason for IBM no longer sharing the titles, ages and position information is really simple. It is very easy to map the data to the actual person that was impacted."...... While that may be true, the REAL reason is that IBM is firing a large percentage of people in the over 40 (and even over 50) demographic. They may be SAYING they want to protect privacy of the individuals involved, but since when does IBM respect ANYTHING with regard to their employees? Their REAL intent is to muddy the waters where a possible age discrimination lawsuit is concerned. Every single person that I know personally that was an RA victim this past week was in the over 40 demographic, and many were over 50 with more than 25 years of service. -BoulderAnon-
Comment 03/03/14: To Nick Danger: Project Apollo had its own name so that people can refer to it easily. It was not because of pride. -confused_blue-
Comment 03/03/14: IBM spent so much money on education for employees for eg Mitts program , alap etc. did any of this help the employees, there are some who are in higher bands who never went through this training etc. the future looks for high tech jobs... Good luck for the future -no name-
Comment 03/03/14: Does anyone have news on any RAs in Toronto lab? -IBMer-
Comment 03/03/14: John Kelly has wrecked quite a few high technical IBM careers from what I heard. I even heard somewhere that some highly regarded technical expert committed suicide with him mentioned in the suicide note. I would have liked to have seen Linda Sanford be chosen instead of Rometty. Linda, IMHO, was more deserving and probably more capable. But when does IBM do the right thing or get it right these days? -anonMHV-
Comment 03/03/14: Warren Buffet, 5 key Investing "Don'ts". #4, "Don't go for the Quick Profit". Please read this and someone ask Warren why the heck he, or anyone invests in IBM stock? As Warren says, "I could do certain things to jiggle up the price of Berkshire in the short run. It would not be good for the company over five or 10 years." IBM Exec."jiggling" has me and 1000's of others RA'ed -Case study in process-
Comment 03/03/14: Ginny Rometty should go on undercover boss. LOL!!!! IBM would have to put millions into a makeover for her just so she would be disguised enough to not be recognized! She would have to have her voice trained also... She couldn't even open her Sametimes, e-mail, and phone calls all at the same time. It would be a waste of time. Putting her to work on, say, the 300mm line would be hazardous to fellow workers. Won't happen. Guaranteed. -UnderCoverBoss?-
Comment 03/03/14: Just made a donation to help towards the site costs. For all those who come here for information like I have been, you should do the same. If it wasn't for this site, we would all be in the dark on what is happening to fellow ibmers in other areas. -Guest-
Comment 03/03/14: The reason for IBM no longer sharing the titles, ages and position information is really simple. It is very easy to map the data to the actual person that was impacted. As a former manager that has retired from IBM, I used to look at the packet and then query Bluepages and 99% of the time my guess would be correct regarding who was hit. When the population was larger it would be next to impossible to make a determination of the actual person(s). This I believe is the first sign of fear by IBM of the employees organizing. Numbers, titles and ages don't mean much but when you can put names and faces to the data, it gets real for a lot of people. I hope the push continues to restore the IBM basic beliefs. -Willie Rae-
Comment 03/03/14: Has it been confirmed that this action is known internally as Project Apollo? Doesn't anyone find it disgusting that they would take so much pride in this "project" that they give it a name? This tells me that some people are going to get awards and win PBC points for their "outstanding contributions to Project Apollo." Maybe they'll even get a plaque that they can proudly hang on their wall. -Nick Danger-
Comment 03/03/14: Very sad day. Layoffs continue in STG today. Many technical sales specialists affected. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/03/14: Hearing of RA's being handed out today in STG. Any confirmation? -Watson's tumbler-
Comment 03/03/14: RA this morning for approx 25% of the STG Technical Sales team. Most ages 50+ -anonymous-
Comment 03/03/14: To -FedUpwithIBM-. You will likely get a Personal Pension Plan (Cash Balance) payout. Go to your NETBENEFITS account online and see your balances. -Anon-
Comment 03/03/14: hi -FedUpwithIBM- ... I am so sorry to hear about your RA after you have worked so hard, and were so dedicated for the past 15 years. But let me ask you - why do you think you should have something for a retirement? I am 38 years old and worked this many hrs unfortunately as well :-( and when I get RAs, I won't get anything either. -Canada_Ibmer-
Alliance reply: We will answer this because we know quite a few would and we don't want to bog down the comments section.
The reason senior workers think they should have a pension is because the company said they would over many many years until they started going back on their word.

Comment 03/03/14: I am an IBM System z architect. I would like to know if you are keeping track of how many System z people are getting laid off. Also I would like to know if you intend to communicate this to the students in the System z Academic Initiative. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/03/14: 2 of us in Customer Information area were cut on Feb 27th. They brought others in from Blue Harmony project and pushed others out -Anonymous-
Comment 03/03/14: IBM set to slash another 500 workers
The IBM ethos "change is a constant in our industry and transformation is a permanent feature of our business model". -serverguy-

Comment 03/03/14: @-Zheng- It depends what is in the employment contract you signed with your current country. -Michael-
Comment 03/03/14: Not longer blue, let go last Thursday... anybody else in Lexington Ky make the list? -Anonymous-
Comment 03/03/14: The red tide has started in STG sales. Mainframe, Power and Storage teams are getting their calls this morning. "Business conditions have changed and your [are / are not] affected." One long-term manager characterized it as the broadest and deepest they'd ever seen at IBM. -FYeahI'mDistracted-
Comment 03/03/14: Got axed last week after given a PBC 3, which included nothing but lies made up by mgr! No sense in contesting PBCs in IBM. I was given a 30 day Performance Improvement Plan (PIP), which was so widely written, that they could use any excuse to say that I didn't complete it satisfactorily. I even got two emails from manager saying two different excuses for my failure on the PIP.
Life sure will be different when these managers come begging for a job later on at my new place of employment! They won't get my recommendation. So I had 30 days to complete the PIP, I immediately started looking for a new job and got an offer with even more pay! So I got laid off on 2/28 and started my new job on 3/3! I got lucky.
I will NEVER go back to IBM. I'm sure Ginni will be looking for a new job soon. She is running the company into the dirt fast. Never before I have felt more relieved than I do today....
Comment 03/03/14: To -Non IBMer- Why would virginia ever go on Undercover Boss? Every boss which has gone on that show did so because they wanted to uncover the problems in their business in order to make things better not only for the company but also for their rank and file employees. Every ibm ceo since gerstner has been about setting themselves up for more money, not about fixing problems and making things better for the entire organization. It'll be a cold day in hell before any ibm executive goes on that show to really make any meaningful changes in the company. In fact, the only affiliation virginia would have with that show is if ibm bought CBS and then laid off the entire crew of Undercover Boss. Just sayin'. -RA'd in Tucson-
Comment 03/03/14: Just got the dreaded 15 minute invite from my manager for this afternoon. I have been with IBM for less then a year in a customer facing technical role. Spoke to a friend of mine who is a Storage CTS on the east coast and he has been RA'd along with 40% of his team. Great strategy to increase sales, get rid of almost half of your customer facing support. -Unreal-
Comment 03/03/14: Just got called today, Monday 03/03/14 by manager saying that the group got affected. RA's in NA are still happening as of today. Feel sorry for the people that were let go. -Anonymous4G-
Comment 03/03/14: -hmm- Yes, don't take your vacation time now! If you take more than your earned vacation for this year, IBM will deduct that from your RA severance! DO TAKE ALL YOUR Personal Choice Holidays -IBM$uck$-
Comment 03/03/14: In answer to Zheng, "If you have worked in IBM in more than one country ... won't your service reference date start from the first country and not the latest country, for the purpose of calculating redundancy payment? Anyone knows the answer? -Zheng-",
Redundancy is calculated from your latest country. SRD is only used for pension/retirement requirements. That is what they told me. I had done 2 years in EU. Each IBM country is "independent" entity. RA'd from IBM US in June 2013. -SD-

Comment 03/03/14: -Anon- Coincidence that Greenock is on the block when Scotland is contemplating independence from the UK? IBM is not our friend -IBMnotCelticFriend-
Comment 03/03/14: Palmisano's strategy was all about the BRICs and the growth emerging markets would deliver.
China no longer buying IBM. India economy on the ropes and demanding back taxes. Russia invading Ukraine and seeing its economy crumble. Brazil seeing slower growth and impact by turmoil in Argentina.
Hey, Ginny. Go ahead and trash all those people in your Developed markets. piss off all your customers with bad service.
Then layoff lots of people in those BRICs to promote IBM goodwill. 2Q14 is going to be a Wallstreet disaster. How you like the CEO job now? -SoftKitty-

Comment 03/03/14: -FedUpwithIBM-
It has happened to you as it happened to me.
As a sick "BONUS" of your RA with severance package: you also LOSE ALL your FHA since you are not 55 years old despite meeting the 15 years employment requirement.
It has happened to you as it happened to me.
The Alliance has made it clear to us older workers for years now: organize IBM labor and fight or lose some or all of your after-IBM retirement benefits. I am still an Alliance member even though I was RAed a few years ago. I want to try to fight and protect what little IBM retirement benefits I have left! The Alliance will do that for us if we get more members (full and associate) and contributors to sign up. -sby_willie-

Comment 03/03/14: -FedUpwithIBM- : I was RA'd at 52.5 with just 1.5 years until 30 years of service. My manager was RA'd with just months until joining the 25 Year Club. While no one ever said being 50 would be easy, I never imagined that being a 50-year-old in IBM would become nearly impossible. -all-too-true-
Comment 03/03/14: To -FedUpwithIBM-. You should have your cash balance to be used for retirement. If you have a financial planner work with them on your options. Otherwise I've heard good things about Fidelity helping people out. I have a cash balance but was able to retire, for whatever that was worth. I wasn't 40 on 7/1/99 so I lost FHA money when I was RA'd last year. Utilize Right Mgmt if they are still used by IBM to assist people with resume' writing, interview tips, etc. -Still_Blue-
Comment 03/03/14: I just want to correct something I read over and over again which is IBM is being run by HR and Finance and that is why this is happening. Remember, that HR and Finance people had to go to business school and take all business classes. Engineers don't. SW developers don't. And in Business school they DO NOT teach you to focus on wall street numbers. Wall street is viewed as a funding source. Period. Instead they teach you to value every asset you have and your greatest asset is people. Finance organizations in IBM have been quietly decimated over the years with overseas "centers of excellence". HR has gone through similar long term reductions that rarely make the news. If HR and Finance were in charge, that would never have happened. We can be replaced with any of the other million HR or Finance people out there looking for a good job. Even our CFO could be replaced in an instant because contrary to what others may claim, his job is standardized. There are literally hundreds if not thousands who could step in and take his job in an instant. Most of the people that run IBM and will be rewarded by roadkill 2015 are engineers. Anyone can be bought including HR and Finance people, but let's stop blaming finance and HR who are simply puppets doing what they are told. These decisions are being made by business unit heads who 99% are former engineers. -Don't Blame HR and Finance-
Comment 03/03/14: I got RA'd Thursday, I am 52.5+ years old, I have over 15 years with IBM, I am less than 2.5 years from being able to take the early retirement package. After 15 years of 60-80 hour work weeks, working through holidays and vacations, no overtime, NOW they RA me? I only needed 2 years and 3 months for early retirement. I was hired Feb 1999, now I get zero for retirement? Can that be true? :( -FedUpwithIBM-
Comment 03/03/14: Let the 2014 IBM Hunger Games begin -Guest-
Alliance reply: On the contrary. Let the Hunger games END. Organize and Join Alliance@IBM to organize an end to the "games" that IBM plays with IBM worker' jobs, careers, families and their very lives. T
he pendulum is moving. Let's do this.
Comment 03/03/14: As far as I see it, IBM has 3 options for the workers in ?tech jobs? in NYS ? none of which are good to the workers. I feel this way because of the lack of respect that IBM has shown to its employees since ?93. It has steadily gotten worse and when then have the gall to not only be disrespectful but also not forthcoming with information about anything regardless if it is a layoff and now even the NYS deal, one cannot think that the choices are anything but bad.
Choice 1: the NYS deal has given the state officials the knowledge that IBM has a sale pending for the Mfg bldgs (chips) or the deal is close to happening, and by saying that this deal to save 3100 jobs is good until 2016 just buys IBM time for the sale which could happen in 6 to 12 months (maybe longer, maybe shorter). Not only that though, IBM gets out of being the ?bad guy? ? read - no bad press for IBM, when the sale is announced and people are let go by the buyer.
Choice 2: IBM will continue the cuts under the table regardless of the deal with NYS by keeping the numbers low to stay under the radar with NYS. This will be done over several weeks or months in order to again get out of being the ?bad guy? with respect to not getting any bad press.
Choice 3: IBM is only going to delay the RAs for a week or maybe even for a month or 2, although we all know that Ginny wanted to count this against the 1st qtr. The deal with NYS only delays it. Just remember that there are 3900 employees in Dutchess County that weren?t really mentioned in the deal. What happens to them?? My best guess is that Choice 2 is most likely, but I can see the other choices being just as likely given any number of unknowns about the deal with NYS. Good luck to all.
At least one politician in NYS is questioning the deal - -tired of the bs-

Comment 03/03/14: Sometimes you wonder why a manager is even needed when the technician is the one who actually runs the department, Morale is very low right now and managers try to avoid, Talking to anyone. -Anon-
Comment 03/03/14:
IBM to shutter Greenock x86 line after sale to Lenovo - reports MP seeks clarity, 'monitoring situation very closely'.
Mystery still surrounds one of the UK's last server production outposts in the Silicon Glenn amid reports of IBM shuttering the Greenock site when Lenovo acquires its x86 division.
According to local newspaper Greenock Telegraph, workers at the plant are bracing themselves for closure with manufacturing set to move to China once the sale of the volume server biz is concluded.
Employees are fearful that with only a storage line made at the facility there will be no economies of scale to keep the lights on and, "this will eventually go too," said one source quoted by the paper. -Anon-

Comment 03/03/14: Can UK employees join? Thanks -Anonymous-
Alliance reply: UK and other international IBMers can join only as associate members. Your membership helps keep the Alliance going and helps in the organizing. We are also part of the
IBM Global Union Alliance of IBM unions in 21 countries. <link to Global union list>

Comment 03/03/14: If you have worked in IBM in more than one country ... won't your service reference date start from the first country and not the latest country, for the purpose of calculating redundancy payment? Anyone knows the answer? -Zheng-
Comment 03/03/14: No layoffs in Lenexa that I'm aware of. I'm shocked that I didn't hear about this until last Friday - no managers or other employees have even mentioned it. I feel for the the IBMers that received the axe. I'll keep this community posted on any updates. -KIBMer-
Comment 03/03/14: Bangalore - Manyata Tech Park. I was called for a meeting with mgr, senior mgr, and HR person on Thursday, and informed that my position is no longer required. I was asked to write a resignation letter on the spot, and the acceptance/relieving letter was handed to me immediately also, prepared and signed by the "Country Process Owner - Separations". I asked why it is being termed as Resignation when it is a RA, and was informed that this is due to the company's sensitivity towards it's (ex) employees, so that they face no stigma (supposedly - is it true?) when applying elsewhere. I am not sure if that is the real reason or they want to make sure there is no documented evidence of layoffs in this country
In any case, I was told to accept the "offer" immediately (leave premises within 1-2 hours, take backup - no issues), or I could stay on for another 7 days and the "offer" would not be valid in that case. Other than these, I felt they treated the matter quite fairly. Though I took the "immediate termination" option, I was told that I would remain on the payroll for another 22 days, which is in addition to the "offer". -Resign after 17 years @IBM, or is it?-

Comment 03/02/14: The Alliance needs to know how many workers were fired in last weeks resource action. If you have that information and details please email the information to Names will be confidential. -Alliance-
Comment 03/02/14: Excellent article on IBM, roadmap 2015 and the job cuts: -member-

Comment 03/02/14: To -hmm-: When I was RA'd in 2010, I had accrued one week of vacation and was also entitled to 3 personal days for that year. I had to use the 3 personal days during that month, but the week's extra vacation pay was added to my severance check. To -ReleasedFromIBMPrisonCamp-: My thoughts exactly!! -Gorya-
Comment 03/02/14: Ginny Rometty should go on undercover boss. I know there is no way she would, but maybe just maybe she could see what she is really doing to the company if she did. Maybe I am asking to much of IBM's leadership to get in touch with the real people who make this company what it is. -Non IBMer-
Comment 03/02/14: I only discovered that I was affected by Project Apollo when Finance kept asking me about billing details about charing my cost. I asked my boss about the Financial details required and she said budget wasn't approved. That was it ... what does that mean? I went to my location manager and he went hounding my functional manager, set me up with HR for redeployment and I am still waiting to hear what will happen to me. No one knows!? I don't understand the lack of professionalism here? -Zheng-
Comment 03/02/14: to -hmm- Don't take your vacation. You will get a check for them along with the severance check. -Still_Blue-
Comment 03/02/14: To -hmm- It is my understanding that personal days are lost once you leave. i.e. I had been told many years ago to use personal days first, i.e. first 5 days you take off for the year are personal. Only then use your vacation days. For vacation days they will pay you for the portion you have earned and not used when you leave. Not sure what happens if you used more then you earned... Your manager should be able to answer that one. I was 'RA'd'(fired) in July of 2013. I discovered this round 'triggered' the feelings from last summer, even though I am no longer part of the company. The sting after 32 years doesn't go away that soon. -GoneinVermont-
Comment 03/02/14: I was RA'd in 2012 after 35 years and responded by sending "thank you" e-mails to my first-, second-, and third-line managers. The IBM we knew no longer exists; it is now controlled by executives hell bent on achieving the RoadKill EPS goal while destroying the lives of the company's employees, and IMHO, ultimately the company itself.
The good news is that even Wall Street and the mainstream press is catching on...there have been several articles in the past month that use the term "financial engineering" in a less than complementary fashion.
IBM has been on a downward path since at least the mid-90's, putting H.R. and Finance in control of the company at the expense of innovation. I've tried to do my part to publicize the company's shenigans on my site. Please check it out! I also encourage current and former employees to submit IBM reviews to Glassdoor. See
With one review, you'll have access to the full history of all of the IBM Glassdoor reviews. (I do select some of the Glassdoor reviews for inclusion in the weekly updates.) -no_longer_alwaysontheroad4bigblue-

Comment 03/02/14: Has anybody heard about Bromont? -anon-
Comment 03/02/14: There *is* life outside of IBM, and it's better than life inside IBM. I got tossed last year, and within a month I had a very cool job at a high-tech startup in Manhattan. And y'know? It's *much* nicer being at good company than at a dysfunctional hellblob like IBM. 'cause any decent high-tech company will *care* about the people who work at it. -Bard Bloom-
Comment 03/02/14: -member-
Comment 03/02/14: Just made a donation to the Alliance. I've never really been a union supporter because I've seen what can happen when they get out of control. But now I'm thinking the pendulum has swung too far the other way. -Sad in Vermont-
Comment 03/02/14: Over 20 percent of San Jose DFSMS dev staff cut. 12 out of 60. Not good for the future of IBM storage or servers -STG tech-
Comment 03/02/14: What else can they take from its long serving employees ? I saw this on the ibmpension yahoo group. First time I have heard of this. Page 128 of IBM's 10-K for 2013:




Nonpension Postretirement Benefit Plan
U.S. Nonpension Postretirement Plan
The company also amended its life insurance plan. Employees retiring on or after January 1, 2015, will no longer be eligible for life insurance. Existing retirees and employees retiring during 2014 continue to be eligible for retiree life insurance.
-longtimebeemer -

Comment 03/02/14: About 200 laid off between Tucson and Boulder. -Anon-
Comment 03/02/14: Regards to finding an internal job once you've been RA'd. All transfer within GBS are frozen. Any exceptions need to be approved by old George Metz and HR maven Deb Butters Don't expect any transfers to approved. They never are (unless you're connected to the Armonk mafia.) -Anon-
Comment 03/02/14: To hmmm - They will pay you the vacation they owe you for the 3 months you were on the payroll. Assuming you have not used any yet this year, you will get 1/4 of your yearly vacation. PC days do not get compensated so you need to use them or lose them before your last day. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 03/02/14: Regarding vacation .... Be sure to look at your online info and see how it accrues. You will have to repay if you use more than you have earned for the year. I would not use any more vacation... All your out time is you looking for a job at this point. See if you are entitled to use the personal days . If so use them so you dont feel like you should sign in but make sure you wont have to pay for them. Any unused earned vacation will be paid to you on separation day. -Brenda-
Comment 03/02/14: All of these RAs sounds like Lou laying off thousands of IBMers when he became CEO. IBM will continue to destroy the USIBMers and their families. IBM destroyed the economy of Endicott , just like they are doing today in the Hudson Valley . Without a union IBM will continue to destroy towns in upstate New York and families who work for IBM. -Former IBM Endciott Employee-
Comment 03/02/14: @hmm - You can use the personal choice days immediately. Vacation days are earned throughout the year, if you take them all now, you will have to repay the value of the unearned days. Given a 3/31 departure date, 1/4 of your 25 days are earned, so 6 days could be used without any repayment. -LastManStanding-
Comment 03/02/14: To Mea Culpa. As IBM's largest shareholder outside of it's self. He may hold some sway telling the board what to do. If he starts selling IBM stock it will be disastrous for the price. Looking at Blue Pages one noticed that there have been some non publicized high profile demotions by push down in the management stack. They may still hold the title, but instead to direct reports, they are now several levels down. Executive wise there are things to keep an eye out for. Two SVP's that have turned or will turn 60 - the standard IBM exec retirement age. Linda Sanford, who cashed in about $14M in stock towards end of 2013, and John Kelly. -Anon-
Comment 03/02/14: I heard STG sales will get the ax next week. This makes sense because they would get to keep us around for 30 days and get through the quarter end. I read the comments about the CSRs, wondering if anyone can comment on the CSRs being told on 3/31 or 3/31 would be their last day. The CSRs I know have all been with IBM for decades, have priceless experience, work all hours of the night & weekends, and do an incredible job. I am not aware of any new hires to replace them. The acceleration of STG demise will start gaining speed. Look for weaker results going forward. -waiting-
Comment 03/02/14: Berkshire Hathaway's annual letter to shareholders has included pages on the stock market and where it's headed in previous years. This year? Silence. -Mea Culpa - I bought IBM stock-

Comment 03/02/14: I confirm that the New York RA was not called off, just significantly reduced. IBM reduced it on Feb 26th, less than 24 hours prior to the RA. Governor Cuomo's announcement was on the 24th, and IBM execs took 2 days to decide they couldn't afford to lose their NY state tax breaks. Regarding what's next - IBM is trying to sell the fab, meaning that hundreds of additional RAs are on hold (including PBC 3's). If the sale doesn't happen, STG head Tom Rosamilia is going to execute another huge RA for his organization. -Rochester RA-
Comment 03/02/14: I'm interested in hearing from ssrs headed for Toshiba on the ssrs slated to stay with IBM if in fact all are being fired. Originally all ssrs moved to the rsd division, we're to go to toshiba. Then the game changed and half in my team were going and half were staying ibm. I saw the writing on the wall as i was slated to stay. I left with 26 years service. My decision was right for me but was a hard one to make.Fill us in ssrs. -Ex SSR-
Comment 03/02/14: To all those who were recently layed-off. It happened to me after almost 30 years with ibm when I got caught up in the 2013 RA. Everything will be ok. At first, you'll be upset/anguished/fearful. A whole range of emotions including relief. All normal. After this subsides, you'll start to regain your life. YOU are not 'owned' by IBM anymore. You'll start to do things with your family and friends, you wont be worried about that call in the middle of the night asking you to work once again. Good luck all! Enjoy your new life. I promise! You'll be amazed at how your personality changes for the better once you get this huge monkey off your back and you realize there are other employers out there that actually VALUE your skills and abilities. -miss_understanding-
Comment 03/02/14: IBM fires small-town workers for Wall Street numbers. That?s the good part. -anon-

Comment 03/02/14: Relating to job postings. To replace a pending retiree, internally a high level (band 10) special skills technical position posting was created specifically for me. I went through the official process applying and never heard back. When I checked I was told that there was no funding so the position would be eliminated. The position was also posted externally. I applied using a fictitious name and was told that the position had been filled. It calls into question the 3K jobs corporate shill Doug Shelton puts forth. -What Jobs-
Comment 03/02/14: It appears that a Director in the newly formed Cognitive Computing organization at T.J. Watson bailed last week. -Anon-
Comment 03/02/14: @-Clueless in 2013-: You are right. It is a total waste of time to look for another job in IBM when RA'd. Even though it sometimes looks like other managers are interested, it won't happen. I had this situation last year when I was RA'd and I have plenty of examples that demonstrate how things work. On day 1 of your notification spend ALL energy on outside job hunting and don't get lured into false hope. Managers are lying everywhere. Remember, IBM just punched you in the proud, take the money and leave. -Fairness101-
Comment 03/02/14: clueless in 2013 - Thanks for the advise! I heard the same thing today from two former co-workers who were laid off in June. I was looking, but now I've decided to focus on the outside and take my severance and RUN! It's pretty insulting and a slap in the face that our managers tell us to look for a job internally when it's nearly impossible to get one after being RA'ed! What a joke! I also found out they can't give us professional recommendation letters with the IBM header on it! BUT, I we can use our PBC write ups as proof of our hard work. -LaidOffinTucson-
Comment 03/02/14: RA'ed on 2/28 from San Jose. Solid 2 and 2+ for last 5 yrs. it's a relief. I am moving on to places treasure my skills. I heard couple more got ra'ed at San Jose. -Tried-
Comment 03/02/14: Got my notice in GA. 26 weeks severance at 67. I was ready to retire anyway, so the package will be a bonus. And, NO MORE PBC'S! -FinallyFree-
Comment 03/02/14: When RA'd if you are required to sign papers in order to receive severance payment then IBM must provide unemployment benefits. Google your state's unemoyment law and read it. Don't assume you won't get, research it. Also if you are retiring and getting pension you are still entitled to unemployment benefit. Since IBM stopped contributing to your pension many years ago there is not a conflict. I am in Texas but it is easy to research. Copy the info to a doc cause you will have to provide it but you will get the benefits. And use every penny of retraining money. Community colleges have great continuing education programs in all areas. Don't leave any money on the table. You have earned whatever you can take away from this. Good luck finding a new passion - I wish you well -Brenda-
Comment 03/01/14: How does vacation work? I have 25 vac days and 5 personal holidays. Can I use them up until the end of the month? -hmm-
Comment 03/01/14: That would hypocritical of IBM to block all job transfers since the note I received implies that you can stay if you find a new job. Sounds like it's all a big fraud. Yeah, don't train your replacement...what are they going to do? Fire you? Haha. They are NOT going to give you a partial pbc rating, so just tell them to get lost and figure it out themselves, if they are so smart. Haha -bleck-
Comment 03/01/14: It is becoming clearer by the day that there will be a regime change coming at IBM that will be every bit as sudden and dramatic as the change that occurred during the transition between Akers and Gerstner. All the pieces of the puzzle are coming together. My heart goes out to all those good, dedicated employees let go by the current ruling elite. These dastardly deeds will not go unnoticed by our great creator. -Anon-
Comment 03/01/14: STG Tucson - number so far is 100 and counting -none-
Comment 03/01/14: I was told by a credible source (a mgr) that it is indeed true that at the last second 250-300+ names (technical jobs) were pulled off this week's RA list in Poughkeepsie. These folks are spared for now until the NY deal with the Gov is sorted out. Quite a few were indeed let go in Poughkeepsie this week but it was about half (or less) of what was targeted -PokLongTimer-
Comment 03/01/14: So I know of one person let go in MD under my third line, but they did not sit in EFK (sat in Endicott). Also I know of an MD department in BVT that got hit, but management would not comment. I know of one other person that reports to a department in EFK, but works remotely that got let go. Many sizing are going on in EFK teams, so we suspect they are preparing for something. We all just wish they'd sell MD to a company that actually cares about making good hardware. -In EFK MD-
Comment 03/01/14: This RA may not have affected you personally, but in some way it will, whether it is due to an increased workload or simply having to work in an environment where you have no job security and feel like you always need to look over your shoulder(especially when stock prices are going down). We need to stand up for the basic rights that we deserve as employees, and the first step is to join the Alliance. From what I understand this has been a long, hard-fought battle with IBM and the Alliance, and it is sad it has to come to us needing a union to have our voices heard but that is what it has come to. So the way I see it, we all have two options, 1) join the Alliance in the hope that it will make a difference and help restore the balance in IBM, and tell everyone you know the true colors of IBM, or 2) watch IBM fall-short of roadmap 2015(which it will) and witness an even larger RA if not much worse. On a side note, where can we find the number on the people who have joined the Alliance? Perhaps if this were tracked, it would bring more incentive to people who have been thinking of joining the Alliance. -Anon-
Alliance reply: We have done this in the past and we have had membership drives with a gauge showing how many joined in a given time period. Didn't seem to help. Since January we have had about 25 new members, and we thank those that did join. We have a little over 300 dues paying members (we do lose people over time that have left IBM) and about 5200 non dues paying supporters. Not all are current employees. We also get asked what the Alliance mission is and what we stand for. That information is all on our main page. You can also ask questions at

Comment 03/01/14: I left IBM voluntarily in Feb 2014 after working in STG on AIX for 2.5 years. I was a recent college graduate with a MS degree...when I put in my 2 weeks with my manager, he on the spot offered me a 25% raise to stay with IBM. It is sad that even in the midst of other people on my team being RAd, things like that can happen. When I put in my 2 weeks, it was right after the alliance announced the dates for the RA, so I figured that I would be able to save someone else's job by leaving voluntarily before names were due to be submitted. I am happy I worked for IBM, but I honestly cannot be proud. IBM is not the same company that it once was, but it still looks good on a resume. -anonymous-
Comment 03/01/14: @Andy...Can you elaborate on the information you posted about the CE cuts on 3/31??
"Field Service Representatives (CE's)accross the country are bing laid of effective 3/31. At this time unknown numbers, but likely in the hundreds. This does not include the CE's that were moved to Toshiba." -Colorado CE-

Comment 03/01/14: Except one state, what's that? -Sleepless in Austin-

Comment 03/01/14: When the last Watson (the man,not the machine) left IBM in late 80's, it all started going to hell. It has accelerated as time goes on. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/01/14: Given past/present RAs & early retirements some questions for the group relating to IBM age based bias/discrimination: A) accessing benefit money accrued age 40-50 and B) old pension plan vs portable plan & employee participation choice offered in 1999.
a) Benefit Account Access ($2500/yr accrued age 40-50). Current IBM policy is age 55 w/15 yrs to receive this. Those retiring, RAd before age 55 currently would lose these funds. Those 52 w/ 30 yrs would lose this (30 yrs svc used to be criteria entitling full retirement offerings) Now one w/ less seniority, but is 55 has access to these benefit funds. Is this not an age bias/discrimination violation w/ dept of labor?

b) Old Pension Plan vs Portable Plan.
In 1999 IBM rolled out the portable pension plan. After pushback IBM settled upon age 40 w/ 10 yrs of service as the criteria to choose old vs new plan. There is a group of IBM employees in there later 30s w/ more than 10 yrs of service. (ie. 38 w/ 16; 37 w/15 yrs having more seniority than those at 40 w/10) How is this not an aged based bias/discrimination by the IBM? Does is not violate any dept of labor laws? A more equitable measure would have been a numeric decision criteria of say age+service >50 w/ those 40 w/ 10 setting the numeric threshold. So those 38 w/ 16, 37 w/ 15,...etc would meet the criteria of >50. This would have offered a fair means for this population to choose there respective pension plan as was offered to those 40 w/ 10.
IBM used >= 40 as the cut off merely because that group fell into a "protected class".
Are these situations valid to protest to the EBSA (Employee Benefits Security Administration)?
(Employee Welfare & Pension Benefit Plans representative would likely undertake the review. Seems w/ these age based discrimination concerns MANY can go to the dept of labor web site & log a protest.
Thoughts from the group? Has anyone already pursued this journey? -AgeBiasQuestions-

Comment 03/01/14: Found out my son-in-law's brother was part of the rebalancing group(He has never been in hardware). IBM plans to get out of all hardware and manufacturing. The new "ibm" will be a services company. He was told there will be no raises, no incentives, no transfers for three years. He couldn't say anything before, but he said writing is on the wall. He just left IBM and told my son-in-law to let me know. -it's over-
Comment 03/01/14: I was "effected" by a resource action in pok in the supply chain group. Over 55 years old with 37 years of service and thrown out like daily trash. Looking forward to my next and better stage in life. Wishing all those left behind the best since it's just a matter of time now. -fedupanddone-
Comment 03/01/14: I retired from IBM towards the end of last year. Couldn't take the environment. Yesterday, while the layoffs were occurring in Vermont, I received a phone call asking if I would be interested in returning to IBM as a contractor. Is it me, or does this seem bizarre and heartless to you? -Puzzled-
Comment 03/01/14: To those who just lost your job and are considering looking within IBM for another position, I strongly advise that it's not worth your time, effort, as well as anguish. You're better off immediately focusing elsewhere for a job. I got laid off in '13 and spent much energy and time in the 30-day notice period trying to remain with IBM. I had very desirable skills in an area IBM desperately needs, and two IBM managers tried extremely hard to hire me, and I had a lot of other interest too, but every move was eventually blocked. I inadvertently overheard from one manager that the hiring organization needs to compensate the firing organization by financially compensating that org by doing something like laying off 1 or 2 additional people to make room for you. Internal transfers also requires Ginny-level sign off. So, that's not easy - your transfer odds are pretty close to impossible. You're better off immediately investing all of your time and focus outside of IBM. I regret losing those 30 days, and hope you don't. -clueless in 2013-
Comment 03/01/14: To -ReleasedFromIBMPrisonCamp- "Well said", after 29 years I'm still here but miss the old days where we were all so energized and pumped to work here and so proud to be an IBMer. I'm hanging on in EFK STG and we heard we are good till 2016. I have many friends in BTV because my depot is split and just don't understand what is going on with this group. Though we are happy the lay off numbers were light in BTV and EFK.. we wonder why?? What is going on and what is next??? That is a horrid way to come into work each day. I AM a member of the union and encourage all to join, they have done a great job lately working to help us!!! -Anonymous-
Comment 03/01/14: Time to revolt. If you have been RA'd do NOT train your replacements. Offer no information to help them learn your job. Contact your customers. I see SSR's are slated for a March 31 dismissal date. They are the last face of IBM in front of the customer. We will lay off the older more experienced SSR's. Please inform the customers what IBM is doing. Customers love their SSR's and will leave in droves when they find out what IBM is doing to their only line of support. Make customer lists this week and call them ALL!!! Make it hurt them. Let their customers know that IBM has no concern for existing contracts or obligations to customers. And for Gods sake get off your butts and join the Alliance. And please take a pass on the severance pay and sue IBM for the blatant age discrimination they are culpable of. There has to be grounds for class action age discrimination suit here. We need to demand the OWBPA is followed. Your attorney needs that information for the lawsuit.It is obvious IBM is trying to break the law and will likely get away with it if we don't stand up.It is our only chance for change. I've Been Misled-IBM. -Anonymous-
Comment 03/01/14: IBM corporate management are law breakers, criminals, and crooks when it comes to labor law. We see it. They settle suits and cases left and right when it comes to labor/employment issues. There is list of them going years' back. These corporate felons need to read the BCG as a start and learn to READ the labor law to OBEY IT. -anonymous-
Comment 03/01/14: I was part of the July, 2013 'RA' after 17yrs of a career with excellent reviews, awards, etc. After IBM took over in 2001 things began their long, slow, unbearable decline. With the exception of a few people left, a place that was once so vibrant with wonderfully talented and dedicated people has become a ghost town. People no longer interact or share ideas. Instead they're heads down and driven like slaves. They are treated with disregard by Mgrs who only know how to use scare tactics to manipulate them e.g., constantly told to 'work smarter' (who was the IBM jackass that started that phrase?) with no help to do that; to take on more responsibility, even though the workload increases exponentially as staff is reduced; to be a leader, even when there's nobody and nothing to lead. Way too may Chiefs and hardly any Indians to do the real work. The list of denigrating tactics goes on. My message to those that are suffering from the humiliation and self doubt caused by these layoffs is, don't suffer any longer. You haven't done anything wrong and IBM is way too stupid to realize what they're losing. Know that, everything has a silver lining. It only took me ~1/2 hour after my notice that I found mine. My life has changed dramatically for the better. Looking back I only laugh with joy that I no longer have to experience that kind of treatment. I'm grateful for having had the opportunity to meet so many good people and to work on such a great product. That said, I despise IBM and everything they stand for, not because they chose to remove me, but because of the dirty, despicable and unethical way they run their business and how they blatantly lie to their workforce and their customers. It is shameful and I'm so happy not to be part of it anymore, no matter what my future holds. Whatever you choose to do post-IBM, I hope this will help to put some perspective on what has happened and know that you'll be much better off. I wish all a more fulfilling next stint. -ReleasedFromIBMPrisonCamp-
Alliance reply: Sorry for your job loss in 2013. All the negative aspects of working for IBM, that you have cited have been said before. This company will continue to do to their employees, whatever they feel like, as long as IBM employees allow them to. Alliance@IBM has been actively working to help change that "paradigm". The focus that IBMers should be using is to organize. IBMers just like you, who have dedicated their energies and loyalty to a company that abuses them at every turn. The ONLY way to change that, while still working for IBM is to organize. Now that IBM has gone so far as to stop reporting job cuts as before in their RA pkgs; it's just another example of their disrespect for their own workforce. If the workforce unites, organizes and fights for a contract; IBM will immediately see that their employees have finally put "s
ome perspective on what has happened and know that IBM workers will be much better off....
Comment 03/01/14: I guess we will never know the true #'s affected by div/group other than the comments listed here unless someone higher up can leak the info out -not knowing-
Comment 03/01/14: Submitted to The Watson Mobile Developer Challenge.
"A mobile bracketology application utilizing cognitive computing and WATSON to determine odds of the IBM Board of Directors booting Ginni as they did John Akers. Factoring in number of employees terminated, business units sold off, customer law suits in proportional to EPS target." -Anon-
Comment 03/01/14: I'm understanding IBM Roadmap 2015 = stock market crash. Now I see the picture :) -Anon-

Comment 03/01/14: I am a 1 rated band 10 employee of 17 years at IBM and am fed up with the executive leadership at all levels of IBM. What a disaster. I am on the list to lenovo, which is better than staying at IBM, but it is not my first choice. All those still at IBM or moving to lenovo I recommend you look around. There are great companies that need great employees badly. IBM vs. Lenovo, I choose neither. -Rated1-
Comment 02/28/14: I was notified of RA on 02/27/14. There are five others also affected under the same 2nd line manager. All of us are over 50 and in NJ. -Distressed-
Alliance reply: This is why employees need the OWBPA report included in their RA docs'. Lots of age discrimination in job cuts.

Comment 02/28/14: I got RA news today from RSD group I know that 20 was let go from my div plus at least another 75 from 2 more eastern side RSD divisions -Craig-
Comment 02/28/14: For all that are being let go. I have been there, and let me tell you this, there IS LIFE after IBM. Remember it is not you that failed, it is the company that is failing. Cut to the bone and yet they still want more. One thing they seem to not remember, these thousands of people are talented, most will work for IBM customers and most will not look favorable once they understand that IBM is running so lean that it can no longer support its customer base. And when it comes time to recommend a direction, more than one X-IBMr will not recommend the once great IBM -Been There-
Comment 02/28/14: Don't think the question was whether NY jobs were lost, as they were..even the IBM spokesman was quoted as saying you should trust those that said they were laid off from NY. One can read the agreement with NYS as being MD specific (Cadigan org), so the question is whether there are confirmed losses in the Hudson Valley from within MD...there are clearly some from VT and Endicott from MD, and clearly from other orgs (ISC, other parts of STG). Can anyone confirm a Hudson Valley layoff from within MD? -Efk'ite-
Comment 02/28/14: Got resourced today.. Crazy.. Time to move on.. -Crazy-
Comment 02/28/14: @Stepping Stone.."This has been happening for five years. The current RA cycle has been running since the beginning of 2009. Stop acting surprised. Start standing up. -Stepping Stone-"
Don't know where you have been but I was RA'd in 2007 6 months after getting a promotion and had to train 5 clueless heads in India. That's the problem, you all have had your heads in the sand for years thinking or not knowing this has been going on for a lot longer than you THINK! -Anon-

Comment 02/28/14: How many employees work for System X right now? Just around 7500 or much higher than this number? -X_number-
Comment 02/28/14: Don't let anyone kid you. 'Technical people' in Poughkeepsie were let go. Got to be at least 40 in STG/ISC z mfg and support. -zGuy-
Comment 02/28/14: Article IBM workers sold to Lenovo need to read. -Alliance-

Comment 02/28/14: Some 2nd-line areas in AIX Austin were lightly touched, others were not touched at all. I only know about a couple of them, however. There may have been some areas hit harder.
However, a lot of people have left voluntarily since last year (myself included). In some depts, more left voluntarily over the past year than were cut. They were counting on attrition, but it appears they got more than they had wanted. My guess is that they lost so many that they cannot cut in some areas without killing AIX altogether. Maybe that's what they want eventually, but not instantly like another deep cut there might have done.
Comment 02/28/14: Got RAed from IBM kenexa. Heard that VPs and Managers are also kicked out. Heard few sr management folks were behind some unnecessary job cuts on the direction from CTO/CKO in Wayne, PA location -anonymous-
Comment 02/28/14: I wish all victims of this week's RA the very best as you move on with your professional lives. I've not yet been informed by my manager whether or not I've been selected for this RA, presumably because she's out of town on business. Is anyone else in this same situation? Also, is it true that the severance package for this RA is 1 week's pay for each 6 months of service? Thanks! -Anonymous-
Comment 02/28/14: Field Service Representatives (CE's)accross the country are bing laid of effective 3/31. At this time unknown numbers, but likely in the hundreds. This does not include the CE's that were moved to Toshiba. -Andy-
Comment 02/28/14: I know of 4 in BTV that were managers RA'd they were set to retire months ago but changed their minds and waited for this to get the package. guess that beats a slap on the back like a line worker gets when they retire -Still here-
Comment 02/28/14: Just curious, what actions could The Alliance take to stop the layoffs? I have worked in many unionized organizations and"Management Rights" seemed to offer free will to make management decisions about workforce. -Curious IBMer-
Alliance reply: In IBM unions in Europe and elsewhere job cuts are negotiated, numbers challenged and alternatives worked on. In those unions job cuts are voluntary first. They have contracts that spell this all out in detail.

Comment 02/28/14: Comment 02/28/14: Question to the alliance, do you need to be an IBM employee to join the alliance? -tyrone- Alliance reply: Ex-IBM employees and retirees can join the Alliance.
Let me add to the Alliance response: ANYONE can make a donation. If you can't join, you can still support. -No Excuses-

Comment 02/28/14: This has been happening for five years. The current RA cycle has been running since the beginning of 2009. Stop acting surprised. Start standing up. -Stepping Stone-
Comment 02/28/14: I was RA'd 2 weeks ago. Just found out that IBM is going to challenge my claim to Unemployment Insurance. -Damaged in Dubuque-
Comment 02/28/14: Let's remember the real reason IBM has gotten into this steady cycle of arbitrary firings during good times and bad. It's all about Shareholder Values. Wall St. loves it when IBM fires people. Every time there's an RA, the stock goes up. It's management's duty to do what pleases the stockholders. Until they are convinced that this is not good for their investment, nothing is going to change. The internet is a big place. Somewhere there must be a scientific study that shows that a pattern of mass firings is harmful to a company's long term health. Somehow, that has to be communicated to the stockholders (or at least the major ones). Suggestion: include the word "chainsaw" in your google search. - Nick Danger-
Comment 02/28/14: 55+, solid 2+ performer, replaced by someone in India who is not qualified -Sigh-
Comment 02/28/14: Comment 02/28/14: What does the CEO and the other execs. see for the future of IBM and its share value? Take a look at Pick your favorite exec. and see what they think the future holds. There seems to be a common theme. -OnThinIce-
I just checked out the executives and their stock status through your link, they have all been granted shares worth millions, as of 2/ much for no bonuses and so much for true teaming. I guess they feel they "deserve" their compensation for some reason but they are really acting in a most brutal and selfish manner..taking millions in compensation then justifying the termination of hardworking, dedicated and loyal employees...BTW, RAed last July, life is much better now; most in high-tech now see IBM as a joke.... -REBIRTH-

Comment 02/28/14: Hundreds permanently RA'd in STG Tucson lab. Managers targeted band 8 & 9 engineers. IBM has lost talented technical people who have contributed for many years. Key product developers leaving with impact to product quality and ability to deliver future products on time. System Test lab hit hard also. List being worked on for next RA. -Sad times in IBM-
Comment 02/28/14: 6 RA'd from ISC GL NA. About 15% and there will be a request for more departures with the X Series divestiture. -Sad in Boulder-
Comment 02/28/14: I'll be honest that I don't have great hopes for organizing IBM or making much of a difference in Roadkill 2015 agenda. Any chance of changing IBM's direction will have to go through the courts. That said, I really appreciate the information that the Alliance has gathered and shared about what's truly going on. I've made a donation to support your on-going efforts. -Anon-
Comment 02/28/14: Several of my colleagues were let go in RTP, does any one know if FLMs have been hit in this round of RA's? -John-
Comment 02/28/14: I hear no mention of East Fishkill, NY. For the record, there were cuts there yesterday, some in my own department. I was told I was safe, but many of us are looking to move on after this scare. Very random; think you're safe, think again. -Anon-NY-
Comment 02/28/14: I was told that all AR collectors in the US were affected. Many collectors in Canada were affected too. Jobs are moving to Guad, Mexico. -Rea-
Comment 02/28/14: Word on the street is that NY was spared from the RA. I've heard from a few folks in Pok and Fishkill that were RA'd but they worked for a department/manager from another state, not NY. -JoeFriday_JustTheFacts-
Comment 02/28/14: Where is my damn RA? I received a 3 due to increased quota of 3 handouts required this year. So, I should have been RA'ed. Why not? Is it because they plan on sticking me with another 3 next year and forcing me out without severance? Nice trick, IBM - first 3 after 25 years. How fishy is this? IBM is trying to rob me of my severance. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/28/14: I am a 17 year employee from Canada who was let go yesterday with 30 days notice so I will be done my IBM career with IBM Canada Ltd. on March 28th at 49 years old. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/28/14: -Sorry Old Sap-: The BCG are written by IBM HR to protect IBM from any perceived or real employee misbehavior. IBM executives and upper management are not true employees (they have separate employment contracts) so BCG does not apply to them! -da_facts-
Comment 02/28/14: I got the axe after 28 years in 2009. Didn't matter that I had worked my tail off, made many sacrifices in my personal life, received great feedback from customers, got stellar performance reviews..I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and nothing else mattered. My heart goes out to all of those affected by the current RA. Blows my mind that the OWBPA info. was not included--this can't be legal. IBM has become a joke and the sr. managers running the place are despicable, soul-less creatures..can't wait until it happens to them. -Beenthere-
Comment 02/28/14: Got the RA call yesterday morning. Div 7 Security Specialist out of RTP age 57 with 32 years of service. 26 weeks sev pay. -Bill-
Comment 02/28/14: Does anyone have information on the RAs that happened in Austin, TX? I know STG and POWER have a big presence there. Is anyone left there, or is building 045 already a ghost town? -GladToBeGoneFromIBM-
Comment 02/28/14: "How can Pok RA's have occurred yesterday if Cuomo was against it? Can IBM be countered for performing this recent downsizing in the Hudson Valley? -Curious-"
You are joking right? IBM doesn't care what Cuomo thinks. Cuomo and his idiot sidekicks made a deal (read gave an incentive) to IBM to keep 3100 employees there through the end of 2016. Well, there are about 7000 current employees there. That gave IBM the OK to still get rid of 3900 current employees.
Comment 02/28/14: The NY tax deal specifically mentioned "technical jobs". From what I heard, technical jobs in the Hudson Valley were removed from the RA list, but non-technical people were still let go in the Hudson Valley. -ProudMember - EF-
Comment 02/28/14: Question to the alliance, do you need to be an IBM employee to join the alliance? -tyrone-
Alliance reply: Ex-IBM employees and retirees can join the Alliance.

Comment 02/28/14: Sad in Vermont - If you don't need the severance go ahead and take it and then use it to sue them for age discrimination. Since they didn't include to OWAPA documentation as required by law, the agreement you sign not to sue is null and void. we need somebody who received one of these packages to sue them in court. Read this: -longtimebeemer -
Comment 02/28/14: Boulder layoffs are happening today and I was one of the lucky ones selected. Like the others no OWBPA numbers. As I'm over 40 I asked my manager why no numbers on total effected and since he didn't know he is going back to ask (I won't hold my breath for a response from him). Like I and others have said, IBM in sinking over the executives greed. If you want any stability in your life or even want to see IBM come back from the dead, join the Alliance NOW! Alliance, thank you for all the support and information you provided over the years. I'm glad to have been a proud member of the Alliance@IBM. -Robert-
Comment 02/28/14: Folks, I was let go in 2012. This is nothing new. It pains me to see IBM employees have not embraced the union.. if you want fair treatment it is your only hope. Keep suffering or unite! I now work in a union workplace - LOVE IT! -Vickie-
Comment 02/28/14: -FYeahI'mDistracted-: FHA requirement is 15 years IBM employment service AND at least 55 years old to qualify. I don't think IBM takes the severance into account to make it to 15 years... Yes, it would be fair, moral and empathetic of IBM to do it so those can get the FHA when just falling short of the requirements but IBM is a beast and a nasty unconscionable animal at that. -FHA'ed-
Comment 02/28/14: @-Anonymous- I was laid off in July 2013 after receiving a PBC 3 and trying to appeal it. The process was very involved. I invested tons of time and emotional effort into it and resulted in NOTHING but aggravation. Not worth it. Good luck to you and all who are being let go. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/28/14: My group was not impacted by this RA but I'm curious if any PBC 3 rated were fired and if so, was the severance pkg any different? -DodgedBulletThisTime-
Alliance reply: Now is your chance to do something for yourself and your co-workers, since you dodged the bullet: Organize Now. Don't wait. 1st-Join Alliance@IBM. 2nd-Ask Alliance for help with handing out flyers, talking to your co-workers, and going public with your effort. 3rd-If you work remote, then find a a way to talk to your co-dept members and get them to join and do the same thing you are doing. Now that IBM has once again made a chess move with the "OWPBA" rule, it will be harder for Alliance and everyone else to know how many IBM US workers there really are. In lieu of that, making contact with your co-workers and sharing information is the only thing left to raise awareness through this web site and your co-dept. members. "Dodging the bullet" is not a sports activity or Olympic event. Don't treat it like one.

Comment 02/28/14: to answer a few questions below I am with STG sales. I did hear about a few X raps getting hit. I thought they would have been safe with the Lenovo sale but apparently not. I also heard the entire US accts receivable group was Eliminated. If you know anything about IBM invoices, they are very difficult to understand. Good luck to IBM collecting payments when the work is being done offshore. I just don't see things getting any better at this company without a change of the entire leadership team. Wwe need someone with a vision unfortunately it is probably too late as the damage has been done through the years. for those that remain, I would compare IBM to a concentration camp where you are just waiting to be led to the gas chamber. you never know when it will come and it makes no sense. I can honestly say I am embarrassed to work for this company the way we treat our clients in people. Time for me to move on before my number is called. good luck to all down with the Fuhrer -embarrassed-
Comment 02/28/14: I note that Joanne Collins-Smee is still working at IBM according to blue pages. Hard to believe after the James Castelluccio age discrimination verdict against her costing IBM millions..just shows what seems to be valued these days. -Truthfully-
Comment 02/28/14: I finally joined the union today , the last straw was removing the owbpa reports , closely followed by all the spin around " new" jobs in NY. The lying and silence has to stop! Needs of the economy and change might require new skills in new places but the sun needs to shine on how all of this change gets executed. Otherwise all the poor graduates who get sucked in will waste their lives on false promises like those of us who wake up with more than 20 years of service. Best wishes to all that got the bad news yesterday . The rest of you do something and join now, -Awake finally-
Comment 02/28/14: One possibility with the OWPBA documentation not being included in the RA packages is that with the deal cut w/ the NY Gov (Tax Relief kickbacks likely garnered by IBM)is that "make-up job cuts" in other states could not be tabulated in time for the update. OWPBA info likely to come within the legal notice period w/ the release form that one signs upon exit/severance acceptance. Privacy protection claims are bogus/BS/smoke screen lacking the truthful explanation. -RetiredIBMer-
Comment 02/28/14: If IBM is stopping disclosing age and the numbers in the RA then the RA was an outright FIRING, correct? If it was a layoff, RIF (Reduction in Force), RA, or whatever you want to call it the ages and numbers have to be disclosed as per the EEOC. -anon-
Comment 02/28/14: What does the CEO and the other execs. see for the future of IBM and its share value? Take a look at Pick your favorite exec. and see what they think the future holds. There seems to be a common theme. -OnThinIce-
Comment 02/28/14: After 30+ years and a stellar career of accomplishments and value for the business, and upon recently taking another job, I was told I was being RA'd. For most of my career I have to say I was treated very well and had outstanding managers. I recently moved out of management, at my choice, and because of my stellar performance thinking it 'safe' to try something new. What a huge mistake!!! What I didn't realize was just how bad some of IBM's managers had become and how 'little' they are (big egos, hurt easily = rain of hell upon employee). Wow! In any case, trying to decide what I should d next. I don't really need the severance I hate to give it up. I want to fight as I feel wronged, like so many others. But I do know fighting is very expensive. In any case, thinking next steps. -Sad in Vermont-
Comment 02/28/14: There seems to be some misconception that NY Dutchess county was exempt from the RA yesterday. I do not know the number, but I do know people who were fired. -Anon-
Comment 02/28/14: -Waiting4Lenovo- My understanding is that no System x employees is affected until Lenovo and IBM create the in-scope list of the 7500 moving to Lenovo. The remaining 13,000 or so System x
employees will be shown the door, hate to the bearer of more bad news but that?s reality at Big Blue. Good luck to all, the ones leaving us and especially the ones left behind. -Anon_X-

Comment 02/28/14: There are six of us at the IBM Center for Microsoft Technologies in Kirkland, WA that were RA'd yesterday out of a total of about 65 people. Four of those folks are in System x and PureFlex
firmware development. So yes, the pending sale to Lenovo did not forestall the ax. The other two people are also in STG. Age breakdown - four are 50+, one 40+ and one 30+. We also share facility with about 30 or so folks from the Software group. No words on what happened there. -Red Pill Blue Pill-

Comment 02/28/14: My heart goes out to all of you that were surprised yesterday. I'm still here, almost 30 years, but I'm sure my days are numbered. There is absolutely no respect for the individual left in this company. Very sad... -Long time IBMer-
Comment 02/28/14: Article on job cuts and mising numbers data -member-

Comment 02/28/14: DIV 7T, multiples gone, looks like 4-6 so far. It seems random like just had to loose X number of people. Way too old for this to happen to me. -TooOldForThis-
Comment 02/28/14: Rochester RA - I doubt the validity of your post regarding managers flying into NY to perform layoffs. IBM is too cheap to actually fly a manager to a location to layoff somebody face to face.
They will just call you on the phone. I have seen it many times. Besides, there have been reports of layoffs in NY. -longtimrbeemer-

Comment 02/28/14: Look at this!

Comment 02/28/14: Here's a classic. The Managing Director in Australia had the top managers i n the country all flown to Sydney for a presentation. One of those managers was RA'd while there for the presentation. I ask anyone to justify that if you can ! It's clearly not about saving the company it's about saving a few peoples (the very few right at the top) retirement fund. -Maybe Next-
Comment 02/28/14: I was RA'ed yesterday in RTP. I was the only person in my dept left in the US. ISC DIV 47, System X. I had 31+ years. -Tired of IBM-
Comment 02/28/14: How can Pok RA's have occurred yesterday if Cuomo was against it? Can IBM be countered for performing this recent downsizing in the Hudson Valley? -Curious-
Comment 02/28/14: I was working on a critical customer RFS that was understaffed to begin with, very high-visibility, with penalties, and we could not get additional resources. I didn't even have a backup for what I was doing. I can't see someone stepping in and doing what I was doing. This will definitely have a negative impact on the project and the customer. It doesn't make sense how they make the cuts. More chaos at IBM. -SurpriseCut-
Comment 02/28/14: First of all my best wishes and thoughts to my US colleagues from Germany!
Also wanted to share this with you ... you can see who has advantages on shares increase and why some people don't need their bonus!;_ylt=AwrBJR4TzfNSmgcAS3CTmYlQ?s=IBM
-oliverro -
Comment 02/28/14: Resource action @ IBM V?c, Hungary. 5% effected, still ongoing and hiring freeze. -determ-
Comment 02/28/14: Donated today in honor of those RA'd. Lost many in GBS and GTS. Soon there will be more managers than resources as more carnage to come. Your corp does not respect you. Respect yourself and organize your thinking with others. Maybe they will hear the voice of many over the one. -Blue @IBM-
Alliance reply: Thank you for your support. It is appreciated.

Comment 02/28/14: 15-20 of us in STG division in San Jose California lost our jobs today. -ApolloCasualty-
Comment 02/28/14: Stg australia, 27 and counting, headed to 50ish in stg Gts 4 local confirmed -PaddyStorage-
Comment 02/28/14: RAd today .. got the feeling I was never a part of the team ever since I was hired on two years ago .. leads, fellow designers, office neighbors all kept to their established circles and always gave you that "look" as you passed them in the hallway .. wishing luck for everyone RAd today -not-welcomed-
Comment 02/28/14: Confirmed RA at Bangalore . One of my colleague has been RA'd. Dont know numbers yet -Crystal-
Comment 02/28/14: Did anyone actually sign the "Covenant not to Sue" that you were given today? If not, the mandatory OWBPA data will probably be attached to the copy you actually sign weeks down the road, at which time IBM Management is calculating that a lot of the indignation over this latest mass-firing will have dissipated, and any adverse publicity will be significantly muted. -Voting Alliance Member-
Comment 02/27/14: -SawItComing-: Wow, 14.5 years...did they at least vest your Future Health Acct? It seems that would only be fair as the 26 weeks would take you to the full 15 years. -FYeahI'mDistracted-
Comment 02/27/14: Ref : IBM CEO meeting with Chinese Vice Premier Wang Yang on restoring trust
If IBM CEO Ginni Rometty wants to restore trust with the Chinese government before meeting with Chinese Vice-Premier Wang Yang, maybe she should restore trust with IBM customers, employees and governments such as the Australian State government of Queensland and others (search IBM litigation). Trust means that IBM does use every legal means possible to avoid paying taxes to governments (see India vs IBM on taxes). Does IBM demonstrate "social equity and trust" by using a Dutch tax haven to boost profits and provide the wealthy with even more wealth.
Restoring trust with employees, customers and governments means taking real actions vs worthless words and empty promises. The Chinese should ask IBM to start by paying more government taxes, on an equitable basis and providing fair pensions, giving cost of living allowances to employees and retirees. Empty promises fail to establish trust. IBM"Trust" is not improved by eliminating 2014 bonuses and salary increases for many employees while making huge profits and giving massive financial stock options to executives. A good start would be to stop blocking information sent by the "IBM alliance" a union for IBM employees. Trust is not words it is actions. If many IBM employees do not trust IBM why should the Chinese government. We invite Vice-Premier Wang Yang, to check with IBM employees worldwide -An IBM shareholder for social justice-

Comment 02/27/14: Div. 5, AIS, GBS - 2 Consultants from my group.-GottheGuillotine-
Comment 02/27/14: I was two weeks from a new job role within IBM, a new suddenly that job has been eliminated and I'm RA'ed. They even let me move offices for crying out loud! I'm a 2+ performer. I feel totally shocked and like the rug was pulled out from under me. I was let down by my current manager, and when I went to try to leave, I've been let down by the new manager as well. Some have said I have grounds to go to HR, but is it worth the fight? Maybe on principle alone. But, maybe it's time to move to a new company who treats their employees better than IBM does. I've also heard several names of co-workers hit and I'm just, I'm not alone and I'd rather be hit than someone with children. -LaidOffinTucson-
Comment 02/27/14: The hardest part for me is the realization that the Business Conduct Guidelines are quite possibly the most concrete example of"protesting too much" ever written. The disgusting greed-mongers running the place couldn't possibly know less about conducting business in accordance with such guidelines. I read and signed off on those guidelines a couple dozen times assuming that those overseeing the writing of them were model citizens worthy of my respect. It turns out they're worse than wolves in sheeps clothing. They're vile, in the same league as a Bernie Madoff - complete and total waste of the human genome. May they rot in a place that the "distracted" in hell couldn't even conceive of. -Sorry Old Sap-
Comment 02/27/14: Got the boot today too. No pre-planned meeting on the calendar although I could feel it coming. Almost 13 years. Sad day but think I'll be happier in the long run. Division 1G/CHQ/CIO -Under 40-
Comment 02/27/14: In response to -User-: I worked for IBM Sterling and was let go last July 2013. Last year my manager had our dept. color Easter eggs two days after Easter, It took over and hour to color them and with my managers permission I took pictures. I then created a slideshow and put it on Youtube. My simple minded Manager didn't realize you were suppose to boil the eggs first and the color didn't really take. Here is the video of our hard work. GLAD-TO-BE-GONE. -Bill Horn-
Comment 02/27/14: Does the law specify when the OWBPA information has to be disclosed? Maybe IBM will hold the OWBPA information until employee exit interview. -anon-
Comment 02/27/14: Several managers flew into New York sites (Poughkeepsie, Albany) to lay off employees on the 27th. Due to political pressure, Apollo was called off in the state of New York and they had nothing to do! Beware to employees in other states - you will be RA'd instead to make up the difference! -Rochester RA-
Comment 02/27/14: div 53 USA A/R team - me and many friends - those i know 50+ yrs old. 33 years in IBM - they have a new acroynm ... -RA Retiree-
Comment 02/27/14: I got spared today but already looking for the next position. Til then? Wikipedia "Work To Rule" -watching and waiting in Austin-
Comment 02/27/14: Sorry to hear about those affected by the RA. Good luck in all you do! Did anyone related to System x or PureFlex get cut? I thought we were going to find out within 30 days from Jan 26th whether or not we are"in scope". Rumor around the water cooler is that some might get cut before Lenovo determines who is "in scope". What's the deal?? -Waiting4Lenovo-
Comment 02/27/14: If you are on this site complaining about IBM and you were not fired today, you need to join the union. NOW. Nothing will change until we have a union to represent us and we need to organize now. . Put your money where your mouth is, there are more of us then them. Sell all your stocks by March 15th to drive down the stock price. It's about time management got the shaft back. It's bullshit that they care about our privacy, to say that was the reason they did not share the numbers laid off, they are arrogant and think we are a bunch of suckers who will allow IBM to use and abuse them. They want to hide how many minorities and the number of long term IBMers with large salaries they fired. Let's show them what we are really made of. Join the union now!! -Join the union now!-
Comment 02/27/14: Age: 26, GBS, Houston - Let go today while billing client. I thought folks that were on bench usually get let go??????????? wtf is happening! -Anonymuos Man-
Comment 02/27/14: RE: Older Workers Benefit Protection Act"OWBPA" applies to an employee who is 40 years old and is part of the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, requires employers to follow a strict timeline to get a valid release of any age discrimination claims. This requirement applies even when the departures are spaced out over a period of time, as long as it is part of the same decision-making process. The employer must provide the following information to the employees:
+ the class, unit, or group of employees that were covered by the
exit program (whether voluntary or involuntary);
+ the eligibility factors for the program;
+ the time limits applicable to the program;
+ the job titles and ages of all of the individuals who (in the case of a voluntary exit incentive program) are eligible for the program, or who (in the case of an involuntary termination program) were selected for the program; and
+ the ages of all individuals in the same job classification or organizational unit who are not eligible for, or who were not selected for, the program
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ("EEOC") always has the right and responsibility to enforce the ADEA, as with the other laws under its regulation. Accordingly, releases may not include provisions that prohibit employees from (a) filing a charge or complaint with the EEOC, including a challenge to the validity of the waiver agreement; or (b) participating in any investigation or proceeding conducted by the EEOC. Above is a snippet from
We all have a choice, join the Alliance and force IBM to follow US laws or you can roll over YET again saying thank you master, please take more.
The choice is yours. -Robert-

Comment 02/27/14: Almost 20 years in, fired yesterday, not even so much as a 'thank you for devoting most of your adult life to IBM'... not that I'm surprised. STG (Hardware) in Australia has been decimated, other areas too including SWG (Software). As usual we don't know the real numbers. It's a common theme - the strongest feeling I have is one of relief. Relief that I'm now on my way out of this wretched place. The glory days are gone folks - IBM is becoming a shell of its former self. My heart goes out to those poor folk who still work at IBM and have to put up with all the 'stuff' that is showered down on them from on high. I also pity our customers - in the field IBM technical staff have been cut to the bone (and beyond actually in some cases - down to ZERO). How does IBM expect to support these customers? How can they keep taking customer's money and provide such a shoddy service? Oh that's right, because decency and ethics was replaced by greed some years back. Congratulations IBM on creating an absolute army of former employees who totally despise you and will do everything in their power as customers or competitors to undermine and eradicate your business. As the saying goes "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind." IBM's day of reckoning is coming - and it will be coming at lot faster than a lot of people think. -theend-
Comment 02/27/14: Surviving so far but to those who have gotten a package, if no OWBPA, what does the package list as "factors it (IBM) used in making selections" -SSF-
Comment 02/27/14: All in Houston and Louisiana that were in not accepted for Toshiba are laid off-also guy from Beaumont-It was expected. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: While I am not an attorney from everything I've read not including OWBPA report violates the law. Any time more than two people are let go they need to provide the information that was in those OWBPA reports. My suggestion is some of those affected file a complaint with the Labor and Justice Departments as this won't be the first time that IBM has thumbed their nose at US Labor law until called on it. -anonymous_retiree-
Comment 02/27/14: If only our clients knew how scared and demoralized we are and how much time we spend on this site trying to get any kind of info on ra's we should be getting from our management. -Anon-
Comment 02/27/14: After many years of doing what I thought was the "right" way to work for a company, I am shown the door with indifference from management for past accomplishments. RTP IBM'er for many years in Div 7T. I was not amazed why so many people from China (Lenovo) hit my Linkin page in the last couple of weeks? Interesting? Sad day for me, I worked so many hard hours over the years to meet project milestones. So many invention patents and disclosures. Always played as a team member. Oh to the next chapter! -TheGoodhasGone-
Comment 02/27/14: I work(ed) for RSD. 38 years with IBM, 60 years old. Got my RA today.I delayed getting surgery because of workload. I scheduled it for March and then get this news. They won't release ages because it is definitely aimed at getting rid of the older employees. This is not IBM anymore. -Linda-
Comment 02/27/14: Boulder folks hit. Technical PMs, DPEs and other. IGA moving a dept to Ireland to exploit tax advantages. -Boulder based-
Comment 02/27/14: Well so far anyone that was in rad that didn't go to the TGCS Toshiba has been RA'd. 25 years. -DownSouth-
The company needs to disclose "the job titles and ages of all individuals who are eligible or who were selected for the program (the use of age bands broader than one year, such as "age 40-50" does not satisfy this requirement) and the ages of all individuals in the same job classifications or organizational unit who are not eligible or who were not selected. "

"If I file a charge with the EEOC after signing a waiver, will I have to return my severance pay?

No. Because provisions in severance agreements that attempt to prevent employees from filing a charge with the EEOC or participating in an EEOC investigation, hearing, or proceeding are unenforceable."

"Agreements that specifically cover the release of age claims will also include additional information intended to comply with OWBPA requirements."

"Although your severance agreement may use broad language to describe the claims that you are releasing, you can still file a charge with the EEOC if you believe you were discriminated against during employment or wrongfully terminated. In addition, no agreement between you and your employer can limit your right to testify, assist, or participate in an investigation, hearing, or proceeding conducted by the EEOC under the ADEA, Title VII, the ADA, or the EPA. Any provision in a waiver that attempts to waive these rights is invalid and unenforceable." -headed home-

Comment 02/27/14: Relating to job numbers. Today, Computerworld put up this article from 4 years ago. The last few paragraphs are so timely. IBM stops disclosing U.S. headcount data -Anon-
Comment 02/27/14: 3 employees in CIO laid off this AM. There were only 3 us employees and 5 Hungary in the entire dept.. -Pok CIO-
Comment 02/27/14: I was just back from maternity leave on 14 Jan, and laid off today. At least 10 ppl are fired today in my office. All the jobs are going to .mexico. And we get to train those replacements before we leave. -Mimi-
Comment 02/27/14: Slashdot picked up the RA's
-Anonymous IBM Coward-
Comment 02/27/14: I got RA'd this morning after 14.5 years service. As I look back on my IBM career I see it as mostly a waste of time. It was great in the beginning but in the last few years I haven't worked on a good project. I got a paycheck and that's the only reason I stayed. More than half the people I enjoyed working with left long ago. I'm somewhat relieved as I wanted to leave anyway so the package just makes it a little easier. I'm from GBS AIS, Div 5. -SawItComing-
Comment 02/27/14: It looks like they have opened themselves up to age discrimination lawsuits if they didn't provide OWBPA information according to an article on this website -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/27/14: Manager told me today I was not being RAed "this time". Was trying to figure out if he's a jerk or giving me a hint. Have decided it's both. Refused to say how many were affected in the department, but clearly there will be some. -still_suffering_in GTS-
Comment 02/27/14: A rumor from a local active beemer, but one with logical legs, that as a result of Monday's announcement from the Governor's office ref commitment by IBM to NYS, all active IBMers working and living in Dutchess Cty are safe from current RIF. -Glad to be Retired 5yr in POK-
Comment 02/27/14: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE *** Don't take this lying down. You are unlikely to get the machine to slow down or get your job back but at the very least let the world and his dog know what is happening. Write to your representative, write to the media, NYTimes, Bloomberg, your local rag. Tell your neighbors, tell the people in a bar, tell strangers in the street. Shame these greedy parasites that are running the company. -OnThinIce-
Comment 02/27/14: I am not a lawyer but I think if IBM laid off more than one person over 40, they are required by law to provide the OWBPA information to the over 40 individuals affected. Maybe somebody can look this over. -Longtimebeemer-

Comment 02/27/14: RA'ed. Got an invite from my boss this morning for a 30 minute. GBS comms. 1 week for every 6 months -Dunzo-
Comment 02/27/14: GBS in RTP. Not hit in this pass. Team seems intact. What amazed me is how many of my colleagues said they didn't even know this was coming. -Anon_in_RTP -
Comment 02/27/14: -Anon-
Comment 02/27/14: "IBM is addressing concerns raised by employees that the age/title information IBM previously provided infringed on employee privacy," the IBM spokesperson explained. "Based on this privacy concern, IBM has removed that data from packets."
WHAT?? WTF? Once you get RAed everyone in your IBM department, your clients, working with you on projects, your fellow workers in other departments, etc. knows you got RAed since you have been terminated by IBM and disappear from IBM Bluepages. So where is the privacy there??? To protect the existing employees AGES and Band levels not RAed? IBM is playing those left as fools! There is no IBM RESPECT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL anymore. Period. If you are band 10 or higher (D,C,B,A,AA) you probably do not get RAed which is no surprise. If this is a miniscule, microscopic IBM attempt to insinuate respect for the individual, it is total BS IBM! So why is AGE being withheld from the RA package information? I smell AGE DISCRIMINATION in this latest RA. It is so obvious. IBM is SICK, SICK, and SICK physically and mentally. -InternationalBusinessMadness-

Comment 02/27/14: I was quite prepared to go quietly in the night, but IBM's casual disregard for the law has me pissed. I had a brief conversation with an employment attorney this afternoon. He's very interested in discussing a possible action based on the lack of OWBPA disclosure. He said we might want to wait until after we're within the 21-day window of 3/31, but I'll learn more on Tuesday. -Tom-
Comment 02/27/14: According to what I read here it is a legal requirement to list numbers , ages and titles in the layoff documents. Look here.. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: RA from the software group, cloud computing. -Chopping Block-
Comment 02/27/14: Storage San Jose hit too, no numbers -JustInTyme-
Comment 02/27/14: Just got the axe. 55 yr old, GBS, 3 yrs with IBM. 3 weeks severance! -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: I got the call today! Yay! Finally! But, do have a question can they really make us sign away all of our rights to get the RA Package? What is the advice that you've heard on this issue? -Todd-
Comment 02/27/14: RTP, NC was hit... Wife got hit last year and now another person in her old dept got it. Just a matter of time before it happens to you. There is life after IBM, Former IBMER -RTP-
Comment 02/27/14: I guess what they mean by "IBM is addressing concerns raised by employees that the age/title information IBM previously provided infringed on employee privacy," is that employees like Ginni would prefer to keep the numbers private, so, she voiced a concern and a policy was born! -whatever-
Comment 02/27/14: I thought the release of OWBPA was required by law, but not sure if it varies by state. The reasoning is supposed to be that you can't give up your right to sue for discrimination when signing the severance letter IF stats on age, titles, etc are not disclosed. The agreement essentailly becomes invalid. How can you determine discrimination when the statistics are withheld? That has been the rule anyway. I wonder if this possibly varies by state, or is it because IBM just lost an age discrimination lawsuit. Too all of my fellow IBMers who have been cut today, you have the right to OWBPA information! Good luck to all of you -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: Sooo disgusted with this company anymore...People do not matter, so don't bust your butt trying to get ahead in this corporation. -Long Time IBMer-
Comment 02/27/14: Received message early this morning from my Manager that job cuts were underway but my position was safe. I feel sad though, for those that were cut. I'm sorry. Wishing you all the best and hope your find your way. This environment is totally unhealthy and counter-productive. IBM no longer gives a hoot about its most valuable resource...the people behind the name. -WreckITGinny-
Comment 02/27/14: To those of us who are still gainfully employed by IBM, what are you waiting for? Join the Alliance now while it can still make a difference! You really have nothing to lose because if you do nothing, you may be included in the next round and be assured, there will be a next round. On another note, yes,it would be good to see how many have joined. The numbers would not have helped weigh my decision when I did join because I just got fed up with the Company's continued business plan of taking away from the employees that finally made up my mind. -What are you waiting for?-
Comment 02/27/14: It is true that it is the law to provide OWBPA reports. But if IBM doesn't supply them, who exactly is going to enforce that law? Sadly nobody is. -Ex Roch Beamer-
Comment 02/27/14:
IBM stops disclosing numbers, ages, titles in layoff documents -Alliance-

Comment 02/27/14: Just lost my job after 32 yrs and 7 months. So much for getting great PBCs that still get you RAed ! -Dedication is Meaningless-
Alliance reply: Sorry for your job loss.
To all: We need to know your division, location and if you know how many have been cut. It appears that the RA packs for this time have had the OWBPA report (ages/title/number selected) stripped from the document. IBM does not want anyone to know how many are being cut.

Comment 02/27/14: Please stop using the term "RA", coined to be the institutionalized, palatable, less scary code word for "Layoff". Sooner you can say it out loud (Laid off by IBM), sooner you can recover. Been there...doing ok ! Good luck ! -Mac-
Alliance reply: Actually "layoff" is incorrect as well. FIRED is the proper term. Layoffs is a term that is typically used by companies with union employees that get called back after a layoff, when work picks up. IBM stole that term from union shops, to make it "less scary" than fired.

Comment 02/27/14: 'You are not affected' is the biggest lie after 'you have a career' Even if not let go, your work increases and your stress level rises. -Weary-
Comment 02/27/14: A bunch laid off in Poughkeepsie Manufacturing, engineers to operators. Thanks Cuomo. They grab the tax money and keep screwing the people for their own greed! -Joe-
Comment 02/27/14: 2 of us were hit with the the RA this morning, usual package details ...Div 07, GBS, work out of RTP,...personally I am sort of glad it happened as the last few years have sucked and I wont be looking internally... -it happened-
Comment 02/27/14: The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few or the one. Gin--- is the one. At least I got to work for IBM when IBM was IBM. Respect for the individual is no longer in practice. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: I was concerned to read your comments that there were no OWBPA reports. Isn't it the law to provide that? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: I was RA'd in July and have many IBM friends who are interested in joining the alliance but who have questions about how many members you have and how many you need in order to unionize. Maybe if that information was easily visible, people would be more likely to join. It is easier to make a goal when you can see it if that makes any sense. Thank you for looking out for us when IBM didn't. -RA'd in July-
Comment 02/27/14: Laid off this morning and received my package shortly after the call. There is no information on the number of people affected and age distribution. Anyone else (not) seeing this? Has IBM found a way to be even more secretive about layoffs? -Ed-
Comment 02/27/14: I was RA'd today, CHQ. I am honestly not quite sure who I am more sorry for...myself or the colleagues I leave behind. Morale in the company is so bad with so many working double and almost triple jobs. Surprisingly all I feel at the moment is relief. -Bewildered-
Comment 02/27/14: Looks like my whole team got the axe (about 5 or 6 of us), less than a year after formation. Not sure who's going to be left to turn out the lights, as even last month I was working with people trying to cover what was left empty after the LAST round of layoffs. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: Just let go after only eight months. I was told to move my relocate my family but I didn't. Good thing. I knew there was something unsettling about IBM front the get go. Just give me my crappy severance and screw off IBM. -Bamboozled in VT-
Comment 02/27/14: Many confirmed RSD(non Toshiba)SSR's hit today. Evil bunch running this organization! -tired-
Comment 02/27/14: Job cuts and we set back and say well I'm safe. I hear people saying what can a union do. I say take a number and wait your turn. -John-
Comment 02/27/14: Can confirm STG layoffs. At least 4 from my team, one more in another team. Trying to secure a package to send in. How long will IBM survive is the remaining question now! -IrrelevantBM-
Comment 02/27/14: Manager called (GBS IGA). Layoffs today. People under DPE (2nd line) affected. Do not know counts. All of you people affected, take heart - you are the lucky ones. Life will go on and will be better! This is such a caustic environment - it's no way to live, and this is your one life! Good luck to you all! -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: Any news from IBM Research - Yorktown, Austin, Almaden, Tokyo? -IBM Research-
Comment 02/27/14: Stock options will be the death of America. Executives focus ONLY on growing personal wealth, by driving up stock prices. That's all the so called "Road Map to 2015" is geared toward. -Options_Must_Go-
Comment 02/27/14: To -stick it to IBM-: It's true that IBM can't touch you if you're on disability, but they would certainly lay you off on the day you return to work. My condolences to the thousands who were cut today. -Gorya-
Comment 02/27/14: Just had my RA call, have 21 days to sign the 'package', last day will be March 31st...I am a consultant in GBS US...onto greener pastures!! Liberation Day indeed -freeFromIBM-
Comment 02/27/14: I just received word from my manager that the layoffs are occurring in Poughkeepsie and that I was not impacted. Best wishes for all my colleagues who got the word that their services are no longer required. So very sad to see the Company fall so low! -Spared This Time-
Comment 02/27/14: Entire IBM AR team level 6 people RA'd today. Probably 75 employees in Integrated Supply Chain - CSO. Work will be in Mexico. Sad day for all my friends and coworkers. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: Confirmed 550 people being let go in Rochester -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: AIS/GBS hit. Severance package same as previous ones. Don't have numbers of those affected. -Anon-
Comment 02/27/14: Are we about fed up with this treatment. This site slows down to a crawl telling me IBM'ers are coming here in droves to find out what is happening. Management teams aren't talking. Will you please wake up. I finally did. After years of looking at this site and thinking IBM had my best interest at heart I finally joined. They do not. They will continue to take away everything the employees have. Then reprimand us for being distracted. Enough! Support this site. Join! Tell your co-workers. IBM is not looking out for you. Management gets rich on the backs of employees. I have been covered by IBM insurance since birth. Second generation. My father was assigned his position by Tom Watson Junior. Who by the way is turning over in his grave. Respect for the Individual. My rear end. Join the Alliance!! Put some fear into IBM! Bring back the workers that made the image this company is today. I've Been Misled-IBM -Anonymous-
Comment 02/27/14: Got RA in Tucson. STG. Typical severance, 1 week per 6 months worked from most recent date of hire. -Tucson-
Comment 02/27/14: Well the stock price is in positive territory today, which can mean only one thing...layoffs are occurring (since that is the only news that causes the stock of this dead-ass company to go up anymore) -ant-
Comment 02/27/14: After almost 20 years, the last few being utterly ridiculous I am gladly taking IBM's package and heading for the door. Onward to greener pastures. I hope others affected share my attitude toward this action. It's Liberation Day! -DancingOutTheDoor-
Comment 02/27/14: Officially RA'd this morning. Was saved from an RA 2 years ago so wasn't surprised when I got this one...still I'm disgusted with IBM. -TwiceStruck-
Comment 02/27/14: Confirmed mgrs are calling affected employees in gts. I was selected but no reason given -Ben fired-
Comment 02/27/14: I know of 3 people who were laid off today in Essex. Two engineers and a technician in STG. More to follow.... -Vermont Woodchuck-
Comment 02/27/14: The cuts in POK have begun. Sad day...Watson is rolling in his grave. -SadObserver-
Comment 02/27/14: Got a 20 min meeting invite last night from my 2nd line, I will be RA'ed today, I work in RTP NC in GBS...will post more after today's afternoon call -freeFromIBM-
Comment 02/27/14: After 17 years I just got relieved of duty with no real reason IBM promised me a career not a job and I gave them everything and drank the kool aid I would encourage no one to work with or for them. - Antrhony-
Comment 02/27/14: Layoffs are underway in STG. Was just told that I was "safe". Till next time ... -GinnyTookus-
Comment 02/27/14: Rochester Feb 27, 8 AM. One by one in alphabetical order each person is getting called in to the managers office. It is ON. -Still Here-
Comment 02/27/14: I left IBM in July 2013. I am thinking about all US IBMers today since I know that anxiety that you are feeling. As others have said, life it so much better on the other side so consider it a push in the right direction if you get RA'ed today. If you don't get RA'ed today, I would still highly recommend that you put some safe guards in place so you are ready when the time comes. First, consider moving you healthcare outside of IBM if you don't have any pre-existing conditions (now). It is only harder to change later and COBRA is a complete joke. Second, get term life insurance outside of IBM instead of IBM GLI. Once again, it only gets harder to qualify as time goes by. I speak from experience. IBM caused me to have to go on anti-anxiety, sleep and high blood pressure medication and that was held against me in my health exam for both health and life insurance. If you haven't been driven to that point yet, the time is now to increase your independence from IBM. Best wishes to you all! -BlindSidedinRTP-
Comment 02/27/14: We were all expecting RAs yesterday. Even the local press talked about it coming. Any "official reason" what happened? Anyone knows what the size of the package would be, if someone with 10 years of service is RA-ed? -AnonymousInRTP-
Comment 02/27/14: Department meeting at 9 am Business meeting update. -IBMer-
Comment 02/27/14: The cull is on at BTV -D-
Comment 02/27/14: there are other bushiness where they are giving wasting money like sterling commerce, every year they are giving laks to the employee why not they are not taking out the people. People are enjoying there and other worst part they don't know what is happening in other businesses in India. Why only STG and SWG unit. why not Sterling business. It is happening too bad with employees. -User-
Comment 02/27/14: My meeting to get fired is 1 hour and 25 minutes away, that is unless she reschedules again, it was supposed to be yesterday afternoon. She's evaded me for several days now and when I questioned her about a rumor she almost tore my head off. I went through this once before (as a 1 performer) and found another job internally. This time, I don't even care to try. I feel sad that I will be leaving many trusted friends and colleagues, but elated that I no longer have to work with many others that will never again be in my contact list. I do know there is hope, I've been actively looking for other employment for several months now and expect to hear today from a company that actually values what I have to offer. The only thing I want to know now is what does the package look like and where can I sign. Good luck to all of those who 'have the call' today. I promise you there are companies out there that want and value you. -AlmostGone-
Comment 02/27/14: I experienced the Hudson Valley RAs in 1993 and 1994. By far these two events were the largest to date. It took some time to deal with those events since we lost buildings full of people in one day, as if they all died in a plane crash. But back then IBM lost billions. The cuts were painful but necessary. There was so much fat in the company back then. These RA's lately are borderline criminal. I don't know how the CEO and her cohorts can look themselves in the mirror everyday, and I don't know how the board and Wall St continue to give her a pass. Where is the organic growth? I got RA'd last summer and now work for a vendor doing the same thing I did before, making about the same amount of money. I don't know how they pulled that off. Good luck to all out there today. Be mentally prepared and you will come out of this stronger than before. -Still_Blue-
Comment 02/27/14: THE IRONY! Soon all that will be left will be managers (the 3100). I will end up with a lower paying job somewhere and paying NY taxes which will go back to IBM so the managers can keep their jobs while I struggle every week. I've got to get out of this state!
Ginny: the common dialog here seems to be no one knows if it will be them. That means everyone here sees their coworkers are as valuable as they are and cannot fathom who might be let go, themselves or someone else. Ginny, that is a clear message that your cutting deep into the arteries.
Africa: be mindful what happened to India. IBM went on a hiring frenzy in India when they wanted to "tap" that market. However, after a few short years India no longer was the hot new market so IBM dumped the India jobs. Africa is beginning to look like an India instant replay.
-no where else to work in this town-
Comment 02/27/14:
Just looking at these numbers posted by "RA'ed 3Q in 2013":
RA Selected: 123
Not Selected: 494
Total: 617
So, this is 20% for GBS IGA?? Wow, no wonder it's so awful here. I also work in GBS IGA - please let the guillitine fall tomorrow, and let it be quick. It's getting more and more clear that all of GBS IGA in the US is damned. Just when I think it could not get worse, it gets worse. It is an incredibly demoralizing organization, full of political slimeballs and dishonest people, desperately climbing all over each other, trying to stay employed. I've had enough of the games here. Bring it on. -Anonymous-

Comment 02/27/14: Is anyone appealing their 3 appraisal via the panel board? We all know there were far more of them this year, at least in certain areas of IBM. Can anyone please elaborate on what the appeal process is like? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/26/14: -stick it to IBM- As much as I despise what IBM is doing, and seemingly have as much a chance of getting laid off tomorrow as anyone else, what you are suggesting sounds like fraud to me which is no better than IBM asking vendors to delay their invoices to April 1st. -Its all downhill from here-
Comment 02/26/14: I've been here since the mid-80s.... my parents were both IBMers.... I always said I would work hard and go 'down with the Titanic'.... I'm hearing 'Nearer My God To Thee' and I'm running for my life vest. This is so depressing. I've worked my tail off for all these years, and I have gotten nothing but harassment, demoralizing messages from management, and a carp-ton of depression. I will be relieved if I get the ax tomorrow. Thank God I've been socking away for retirement like a friggen squirrel. -beenhereforever-
Comment 02/26/14: I was at my dad's side for month before he passed in early June last year (very nice of my mgmt team to support that). The following week kids and I were at Disneyland where I got the call that I was part of permanent layoff. I was expecting it and grateful not to be tied to IBM anymore. I have part time work in related field now as a contractor (not with IBM- with a company that still has soul). Yes it can happen on vacation, yes it can happen on leave. Don't take it personally - no one is safe or special. At some point you will fall within desired demographics and you will be gone. I had been there 33 yrs with great reviews most of my career. Happier as a part timer, getting sleep and health. Peace be with you all. -Brenda-
Comment 02/26/14: I been through layoffs at company that wasn't IBM. The day it happened, all the execs were there and were as open as they could be. An "all employees" email went out explaining what was happening. An all-hands meeting was held after it was completed. The execs explained why they felt they had to do it, that it was over for the foreseeable future and articulated the plan going forward. They encouraged the remaining employees to reach out to those who were let go and check they were doing OK. That's leadership. No one liked the layoffs but everyone understood and got back to work with a new purpose. The IBM execs are cowards, hiding under their rocks. -Hide under a rock-
Comment 02/26/14: Redundancies in Australia across SWG & STG have started this week. My role was made redundant on 31st December and the redundancy program is fortuitous for me as I was destined for nothing but many others are hearing the news this week with 4 weeks deployment notice. The selection of those made redundant does not make sense with many being talented, energetic, knowledgeable people in their field. May we all see this as an opportunity to release the shackles and explore new opportunities. -At Peace-
Comment 02/26/14: I left voluntarily in mid 2013 only after 1.5 yrs. It became apparent to me just after 6 mo.'s or so that the intimidation from my FLM for above average performance and a PBC rating of 2 that I could be on the next wave out, and that was no way to live. For those about to be RA'd, yes it might sting initially, but my hope is that you land in such a better place, you really don't want to rot there waiting for your turn. -LongGoneInCali-
Comment 02/26/14: My nerves are frayed. I need a glass of wine. This is so unfair. I didn't sign on for this. I signed on in 2001 because IBM promised me a CAREER. I promised them my dedication, loyalty, honesty and willingness to do anything I could to get the job done. Sadly, this arrangement has turned into something unfair and driven by greed. IBM's vision is far away from retaining and gaining more customers. It is fixated on wall street. Along the way IBM lost its soul to the street, along with it went their reputation for innovation. IBM is just International Business MACHINE. No heart, no soul. Just a old greedy fat lazy bastard of a machine. -DownWithGinny-
Comment 02/26/14: I was RA'ed at end of Aug (notified on June 12)in 2013. My manager told me he needed to select one of only two US employees in my program. I was IBM certified Executive PM and PMP with PBC 2+ for the past 3 years. Funding was available because I managed the program finance.
OWBPA in 2013 for GBS IGA.
RA Selected: 123
Not Selected: 494
Total: 617
. - RA'ed 3Q in 2013-
Comment 02/26/14: I have worked in other companies. Yes, there were layoffs when trading conditions demanded it. We all understood that, and while it was hard, there was no ill feeling towards the company - it was part of business, and frankly it was important to the long term health of the business. What IBM is engaged in is entirely different. The rush to an arbitrarily earnings goal does not make business sense and it certainly can't be confused with a strategy. Buying shares when you could be investing in the core business suggests that there is nothing that the company feels is worth investing in - there are no more ideas.
I have been RA'd this time and I am entirely happy. In previous companies I have worked for, redundancies came as a shock. No warning. But we understood and dealt with it because we knew 'why'. At IBM, firings are well signposted. Utterly blameless and hardworking employees are wondering if this is their time. Everyone assumes their time will come, they just don't know when. Employees are haunted with the prospect of redundancy. People don't expect to retire from IBM. The GDP situation suggests that hard work is pointless. This is not a normal company, and its policies are designed to antagonise the employees and keep them on edge. How can that be useful?
So, we have 400k employees, mainly demoralised, few incentivised. Are they working at 60% capacity? Who knows. But firing 4% and neutering 96% looks about as much a strategy as chasing $20 in 2015.
The beauty of capitalism is that bad and unprofitable ideas are supplanted by better ideas. In this way, IBM's contribution to innovation is clear. Smart people are released to places where they can make a greater economic impact. I don't mean to belittle the experience of individual employees, but trust me, as IBM declines, innovative new businesses grow. Be part of it.
Comment 02/26/14: I got an invite today for a quick 15 minute PBC review call tomorrow too. Will really blow my mind if I get canned -pbcanother-
Comment 02/26/14: "Other than Ginni, who's left?" R U kidding me? LOL.. How many IBM BODs, IBM Sr. VPs, VPs, GMs, Directors. etc. That's more than a handful. A very $$$rich$$$ handful for not doing their job well at all. -IBMpigs-
Comment 02/26/14: "I've read a lot about IBM cuts, but no mention of the many contractors at IBM who have been let go. The number is much higher when all reductions are counted."
An IBM contractor is just treated as a IBM Purchase Order (PO). Not as a person; just a work resource. Nothing more. -contracted-
Comment 02/26/14: Just got the MANDATORY meeting invite for tomorrow...I guess they are dropping the bomb on the US tomorrow. Honestly, I just want it over with, everyone here is on pins and needles. -TucsonIBMer-
Comment 02/26/14: NY State can tell who IBM is employing by checking W-2 earnings data. BUT.. it cannot tell where in NY State the taxpayers working for IBM are working from which IBM site. That is the rub with this so called NY State 3,100 Hudson Valley 'job retention' agreement. We will not know. Nor with NY State where the IBM employed in NY State are. IBM will not say the employee site counts due to their own self called 'competitive reasons'. IBM: who are you competing against?? -NYpieceOmind-
Comment 02/26/14: When I was RA'd last year... Notified in June, gone in July. It was an early morning phone call. I worked from home and a co worker notified me that all managers under our second level were signed on by 7 am that day, which he thought was odd... And, it was... They were signed on, looking for their 'victims' to be signed on. I received a phone call, but did not answer it as I didn't recognize the number(didn't look like the normal IBM number). Received a ping shortly after and the rest is history... No 15 minute meeting scheduled. I think how it is delivered may vary by the group you are in.. .-goneinvermont-
Comment 02/26/14: I was RA'd last year, that right after one of many conference calls chaired by an inept VP repeatedly directing the f--king word at everyone on the call. Sad evidence of the crashing of IBM. I am so glad to be out of that company, others achieving same will some day feel the same. IBM is failing, be glad to be done with it. Hopeless .-OutofcrapIBM-
Comment 02/26/14: My former second line who retired from IBM told me they can not touch you if on short or long term disability. For those who have PBC reviews tomorrow might want to visit the emergeny room tonight with some 'whip lash', back problems, chest pain, whatever it takes and drag it out as long as possible. I still have not had a PBC review myself so time will tell. For those that remain, I am sure it will be more depressing than ever. -stick it to IBM-
Comment 02/26/14: The Alliance should publicly declare a vote of no confidence in Ginny. A lot of non-alliance members would jump on that bandwagon right about now. -losing faith-
Alliance reply: Alliance has already done that, with every CEO and executive of IBM since 1999. We've declared a vote of confidence in the IBM workers to organize. If we hadn't, we wouldn't be here today talking about it.

Comment 02/26/14: I've read a lot about IBM cuts, but no mention of the many contractors at IBM who have been let go. The number is much higher when all reductions are counted. -Andrew-
Alliance reply: That is because there are no documents that list the job cuts for contractors like they have to do for current employees. Each IBM RA package has an OWBPA report that lists number of employees "selected" and number "not selected" for termination.

Comment 02/26/14: I would like to know just what IBM is going to make money on in the future. Where years ago the goal was to be a 100 billion dollar company is it now the target to be a 10 billion dollar company and just follow the Technology world instead of leading it? -Don-
Comment 02/26/14: Don't read anything more in the delay than managerial and HR ineptness. I have seen this before where they have delayed a day or two because of fear of getting sued by older workers or other minorities. They have a number they have to hit and they are making sure they have their butts covered. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/26/14: @-ForReal?- that's the way it was done for me. Many in GBS were let go the second week in Feb. No warning, no separation package beyond 2 weeks pay ("minimized separation allowance" I think they call it)... wondering if WARN ACT will kick in. probably not though because most GBS'ers are considered "remote workers" so there aren't >500 people in each location to cut... -PBC'ed out-
Comment 02/26/14: Other than Ginni, who's left? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/26/14: I think Rometty will be an RA victim herself before the IBM Stockholder's Meeting. What a talking skirt (nothing against gender here)she is. -CEOmustGO-
Comment 02/26/14: PBC review and it is only February? LOL... IBM doesn't even conduct mid year PBC level set reviews anymore... Yeah, suspicious. Don't be distracted! Challenge your idiot IBM manager. Make your case NOW. -PBCthis-
Comment 02/26/14: IBM committed to keeping 3100 IBM jobs in Hudson Valley, NY thru 2016: How about committing to keeping ALL jobs in Hudson Valley (about 7000 or so, we really don't know?) and maybe adding a thousand or so more and PROVE it?! Now that might be at least a better than half commitment IBM! -FishFooled-
Comment 02/26/14: US RA Lists to be distributed to managers tonight and execution of the RA is tomorrow. Incompetence in action! In the words of the clash ... "Should I stay or should I go?" Best to all. -Just Waiting For The News-
Comment 02/26/14: Ginni is in the news today. The business channels are talking about her delivering the keynote at mobile world and the Watson challenge. They probably pushed the RAs 1 day out so the layoff news wouldn't overshadow this other propaganda. -Beensy-
Comment 02/26/14: @"Gone in AZ": They actually gave you two days notice? The last couple times IBM has "canceled my purchase order" (the euphamism for laying off contractors) I've gotten at most 2 hours. First of those two my contact at the contracting company called me a little before 5PM (just as I was about to leave for home) to say it was my last day. The next time the various contracting companies for half of our department told us early in the afternoon it was our last day (my company told me by email, not even a phone call). The only reason IBM likes contractors is it's even easier to dump contractors than regular staff. -Contr_in_pok-
Comment 02/26/14: I do not understand what is happening in the US press and why the people who read this list are not responding. The CEO publicly announces that she and her execs. are giving up their bonuses and every press agency carries the news. She and the other execs. then quietly pocket up to $3 million in zero cost shares. If everyone who reads this contacted NY Times, Washington Post, USA Today, etc etc who carried this IBM CEO propaganda and told the truth about how the company works and the execs. are pillaging the company then perhaps people would take notice. At the moment Alliance are viewed as the bad guys. Everyone get your act together are start to spread the word.
Read   and the comments to see what I mean. Don't let them get away with this. -OnThinIce-

Comment 02/26/14: Am wondering. If IBM says so many employees are come clients are still attracted? Why aren't clients leaving in droves. Are they stupid? -dirrt-
Comment 02/26/14: My manager just scheduled a PBC review with me on Thursday afternoon. Is this how it's being done? -ForReal?-
Comment 02/26/14: One theory about delaying RAs is for IBM to avoid bad press and fallout while IBM Pulse is going on in Vegas. Ends today. -BlueNoMore-
Comment 02/26/14: I feel so sorry for our IBM Taiwan brothers and sisters with the recent RA. I hope you make out okay in the future.. So where does AIX & POWER mo now? It's tough enough to have to compete with mainland China (and no matter what they say it is still a communist government in mainland China) and deal with IBM at the same time. -RAed_Taipei-
Comment 02/26/14: "As far as I know, it's IBM policy that new hires under a year are exempt from RAs." -Schrodinger's Cat-
I was RA'd along with most of my team 11 months into my job. Many were RA'd with in 6 months. This was in 2013. No RA package for me, no severance, they stopped paying into my health insurance two weeks later and my coverage went from $150/mo to $600/mo. We were supplemental so maybe we don't count as human beings in IBM's eyes, just cheap labor they can profit from then dump. Good luck guys. -ibm-is-ruthless-

Comment 02/26/14: Heard today won't be the day for the firings. Several co-workers said their manager is scheduling 15 minute meetings for Thursday, so it looks that is the date. Some managers schedule these short meetings with each employee... so you won't know if fired until then (let's call it what it is). -AnonymousInMN-
Comment 02/26/14: I was all set to get RA'd today but my boss rescheduled the meeting so I guess I have at least one more day of employment. Of course, having said that, the day is not over yet -Bewildered-
Comment 02/26/14: I have reason to believe I am on the RA list. Just had a regularly-scheduled call with my manager. No mention of RA. -On the Way Out-
Comment 02/26/14: Alliance: I'm Sorry it took me so long to donate. I just did. Gov Cuomo: Get Out IBM: You SUCK
Employees of EFK & BTV with mortgages and families: I'm Sorry... -CogInAWheel-

Alliance reply: Thank you for your donation and your support. We appreciate it.
Comment 02/26/14: ISL Mumbai @Nirlon will be shut down by march end. All employees are asked to move to pune and banglore. who can't move they are asked to leave. -S-o T-otally G-one-
Alliance reply: To those being RA'd today, please send us the RA doc so we can count the numbers in the OWBPA report included in your doc. This is the only way to prove cuts are taking place. Names are confidential. Send to

Comment 02/26/14: ISL Mumbai @Nirlon will be shut down by march end. All employees are asked to move to pune and banglore. who can't move they are asked to leave. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/26/14: UK Apollo already underway. The first leave next week. Seems to cover some brands (STG, TSS, Finance) but no one sure of exact numbers. This is hard environment to work in. Most I know are very demoralised. -Anon-
Comment 02/26/14: Yeah, no wonder we are all "DISTRACTED" IBM?! IBM you confuse us so much with lousy or non-existent communication and you supposed to be an information technology company now. The Alliance communicates! Smarter Planet IBM? No way! Alliance? Yes! -distracted?-
Comment 02/26/14: Still at IBM - wanted to give a brief comment regarding"distraction": We fortunately see that people are distracted and motivation is low. Why "fortunately" you may ask? Well, I hope that Q1 2014 result will be very bad ... hope this will reactivate the brains of our executives. *Cheers* -oliverro-
Comment 02/26/14: -VTRetiree2013- IBM won't hesitate to RA you if you're on vacation. I was RA'd on vacation once. This was a few years ago... but IBM hired a special courier to get the package to me that day so the countdown for leaving could begin on schedule. I got the call from my manager early, and the package came later on that day. Where there's a will, there's a way. If IBM wants you out, you're out. -Ben Dover-
Comment 02/26/14: RA's On / RA's Off / RA's overseas / $1B set aside to fund / selling divisions / and on and on and on ... is it any wonder we are distracted!? -Beensy-
Comment 02/26/14: IBM Taipei have announced to close TSTL System POWER lab today. All employee under this lab have been terminated. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/26/14: BTV is being put on hold due to a possible "packaging" of the ASIC hierarchy under foundry allowing it to be sold with the fabs. The rest of STG outside of BTV will still get notified today. -btv_scoop-
Comment 02/26/14: This week in Vermont the children are off from school and many people are out of town/work. I couldn't imagine a large layoff when so many people are not at work. -VTRetiree2013-
Comment 02/26/14: The way I see it is if IBM called off or delayed the RAs it was not because of information the Alliance obtained; it was because the Alliance got the word out to the public and IBM backpedaled to save some face. If it wasn't for the Alliance then IBM would have no impediments or even a threat of fear and would do anything it wants, when it wants. -flyonthewall-
Comment 02/26/14: -Nervous B-: 8 weeks salary. -Amon-
Comment 02/26/14: One has to keep in mind accounting wise the $1B rebalancing charge is being charged against Q1. That does not mean the full actual expense has to be. As the 697 folks in Pok found out when they were RA'd in June. IBM expects to bury the charge against the $2.3B "revenue" from sale of x86. By taking charge against an early quarter, they expect numbers through the year to be down so any expense would stand out. -Accountant-
Comment 02/26/14: -Nervous B- historically, the layoff package has been 2 weeks for every year worked, with a minimum of 4 weeks and max of 26 weeks. So, if you were employed <1 year, a 4 week package (plus another 30 days to "find a new job in IBM" is what I would anticipate. Good luck everyone!!! -Anonymous-
Comment 02/26/14: They fired me last week, with 5 month salary. Instead if they could give me lesser 3 month notice with work from home, so that I wont have access to office. That would help me find better job as salary would credit to bank account for 3 months. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/26/14: Not sure about any where else but RAs are happening in Australia. At this stage I have only heard of sales people - STG / ITS. In one team 4 of 6 sellers gone. -Maybe next-
Comment 02/26/14: Redundancies (RA's) are under way in Australia. From what I have heard so far today there are lots of good folks in STG technical positions who are being made redundant. I don't know if the scope will widen to other parts of the organisation. As a long time STG'er this looks like the true beginning of the end for the hardware business at IBM. If any customers are reading this web site I would urge you to think twice about engaging or continuing to engage with IBM. Put simply there's not enough technical staff left to give you the quality of service you deserve (and are paying for!). The IBM ship is sinking and I sincerely doubt "Cloud", "Watson" etc. are going to save the business. Good luck to all. -gonetomorrow-
Comment 02/26/14: IBM Taiwan has laid off the whole Power systems team and the storage team. roughly ~100 people. -Taiwan-
Comment 02/25/14: -Nervous B- As far as I know, it's IBM policy that new hires under a year are exempt from RAs. My manager told me this when the RAs of 2011 happened. Of course IBM could just change this with no notice. -Schrodinger's Cat-
Comment 02/25/14: Here is the start and origin of pain for millions of middle class Americans and job/entitlement loss and thanks to Jack Welch and GE this was realized in full force and other corps were forced to emulate including IBM:
In 1976, Finance professor Michael Jensen and Dean William Meckling of the Simon School of Business at the University of Rochester published their paper in the Journal of Financial Economics entitled ?Theory of the Firm: Managerial Behavior, Agency Costs and Ownership Structure.
"to ensure that the firms would focus solely on making money for the shareholders, firms should turn the executives into major shareholders, by affording them generous compensation in the form of stock. In this way, the alleged tendency of executives to feather their own nests would be mobilized in the interests of the shareholders." -anon-
Comment 02/25/14: Anyone know what the RA package for under a year is? Should have researched better. -Nervous B-
Comment 02/25/14: It appears that IBM is calling off layoffs according to the WCAC News in Burlington:
ESSEX JUNCTION, Vt. - Pink slips have been called off at IBM Essex Junction. A source in the company tells WCAX News planned layoffs will not happen Wednesday. It's not clear why Big Blue decided against the job cuts. It's also unclear if they've simply been postponed. -BTV Terrified-

Comment 02/25/14: Did anyone see this yet? -gonein2013-
Comment 02/25/14: OK all you managers that are just as upset as we are, what is going on with the job cuts? What areas are going to be hammered? What areas have the cuts been called off? -had it-
Comment 02/25/14: Deferment of invoices - this is more serious than BCG. This represents accounting fraud and is criminal in nature. Its a question of whether the supplier wants continued IBM business or discharge its role as a responsible entity and report the action to DOJ, SEC etc.. -WolvesofWallSt-
Comment 02/25/14: Vermont's WCAX reports pink slips at BTV have been called off for 2/26. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/25/14: boss Commented that he had not rec d anything from HR yet On Tues. Meaning RA still on for Wed in US. -Lost in space-
Comment 02/25/14: -W_Account- there is an all hands in Marlborough MA tomorrow. Instead of it being the usual all day affair it is just an hour. -pointy stick-
Comment 02/25/14: In re: Jaded In previous RA's co-workers told me they were notified in all different ways. One said she was called on her cell phone, another said he was pinged and asked if he"had a minute to chat"...etc. None said the RA happened at a formal meeting. Most were caught off-guard by the casual way in which it happened. -DontPingMe-
Comment 02/25/14: If tomorrow would be THE day, massive amounts of employees should have a 1:1 of 15 mins in their calendar now....I have not seen anyone posting any such information yet, so have things been called off? -Fairness101-
Comment 02/25/14: OK, since Wednesday 2/26 is supposed to be the big day for RA's in the U.S., has anyone gotten meeting requests notices from their managers? Earlier, we had heard the date of 01/24 for selection submission, 02/22 for final lists of those selected to go back to the managers, 02/25 for all managers to receive the RA package materials for each selected employee, and 02/26 for formal notification to the selected employee. My question, has any of this been confirmed? -Jaded-
Alliance reply: We got that information from sources inside IBM. I guess it comes down to who you believe, IBM or the Alliance? There certainly has been enough info from inside that confirms what we have been saying. We also got that information out to the media, especially in NY. IBM wasn't saying anything about it but we were. How do you think Governor Cuomo found out? Because of us.
We are now hearing that many jobs will be saved because we got this news out early before the job cuts happened. We will of course be monitoring this "deal".

Comment 02/25/14: -Execution Problem- Do you really think IBM cares about negative publicity when it comes to firing people? There will be no national outrage. They will just issue their normal "We do not comment etc etc' statement and be done with it. This agreement is not going to stop them from firing people in the Hudson Valley tomorrow. They will still be over the 3100 employees they promised to keep. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/25/14: If that's true that is literally an example straight out of the Business Conduct Guidelines presentation this year as something not to do! -justanotheribmer-
Comment 02/25/14: NY, NY, NY What about BTV? Are we doomed too ?? -Mr. X-
Comment 02/25/14: "Ginni will be making a video chastising employees about not executing properly."
IBM now calls this as being "distracted". Question is: distracted? from what? Ginni has to go. She is clearly overly distracted!
Comment 02/25/14: -IBM_Is_Desparate- If this is is really ironically hilarious. The exact scenario was used in the dorky BCG materials as an example of a VIOLATION of BCG. -Report THEM!-
Comment 02/25/14: "I am a former IBMer who now works for an IBM supplier. Big Blue are asking us if we are ok with them delaying putting our invoices into their payment system until April 1st. -IBM_Is_Desparate-"
I recently completed the Business Conduct Guidelines video, and it seems to me that IBM is in violation of their own BCG's... -DoASISay-NotAsIDo-

Comment 02/25/14: Hey all, SO tomorrow is the day? There any link between my account's VP calling an "All Hands Meeting" tomorrow and this potential slaughter Wednesday (if the rumors are true)? How many other accounts out there having one too? -W_Account-
Comment 02/25/14: In response to IBM_is_desparate... so funny that IBM asked suppplier to delay invoices until April 1. I am positive that we just heard how unethical this is in our latest mandatory Business Conduct Guidelines class... -Pegeen-
Comment 02/25/14: Here is an article that shows the dirty laundry from ibm India. -dirrt-
Comment 02/25/14: Contractors are not safe either. I worked for IBM for almost 10 years as a contractor and supplemental and was let go with 2 days notice on 2/10 and gone by 2/12. -Gone in AZ-
Comment 02/25/14: How IBM messed up in India that is partially to blame the world wide job cuts. -Disappointed-
Comment 02/25/14: Looks like IBM had an "execution" problem in Q1, they couldn't even get a resource action correct. While taking money from NYS to essentially reaffirm a job comittment that was significantly below existing levels, the media and local politicians widely misinterpreted what actually occurred. Even the Dutchess County Executive told the media that "maybe some IBM'ers would be rehired". Now IBM is really in a bind. If they do a layoff they will receive nation wide negative publicity. New plan is to increase the number of layoffs outside New York to compensate. There will still be layoffs in NYS but they will be called normal MIS, management initiated seperations that they do every year. Oh yeah (now this part is parody) Ginni will be making a video chastising employees about not executing properly. This blunder was their fault of course. -Execution Problem-
Comment 02/25/14: "..get rid of your IBM shares..." Ok, but I would keep just ONE. At least you can still attend an IBM Stockholder Meeting and can voice your concerns perhaps directly to Ginni and the IBM top brass. If you have not been to an IBM Stockholder's Meeting you would be surprised how similar it is to what controlled communist politburo meeting must be! Selling all but ONE share is a good protest. -anonymous_shareholder1-
Comment 02/25/14: Lee, you need to contact gov Cuomo's office now and try to get support from his office to ensure he will be outraged at the soon to happen layoffs in NY after the sweetheart tax breaks and new free Buffalo building from the NY taxpayers. Cuomo will win over the populist crowd for his reelection campaign and the Union will get good press from a powerful ally! It's win win for everyone! -Worker Bee-
Comment 02/25/14: The 3,100 jobs are spread between Albany, Dutchess and TJ Watson. How many people work in those locations? More than 7,000. That's the reduction you're looking at. Devastation. And guaranteed for 2 full year's wow! Starting when 1/1/14? Nothing mentioned on that. Viva la tax break please! -b. brinkerhoff-
Comment 02/25/14: When asked by the Press to clarify some details in the Cuomo / IBM announcement, the mysterious IBM spokesman Doug Shelton declined to offer any details, saying it was the state's announcement. Sounds like IBM is playing NY for a sucker, AGAIN!!! -Jsb2b-
Comment 02/25/14: The 10,000+ US RA is coming tomorrow. Are you next? Whatever happens, do not just sit down and take it. Join the Alliance, speak out, raise awareness within your community, tip the media with information, advise any prospective job seekers away from IBM, get rid of your IBM shares, do not recommend IBM services/products to anyone, etc. Small efforts taken by a large group of people can have a huge impact! -WalkTheWalk-
Comment 02/25/14: I was told by management contractors were easier to deal with while talking about hiring new resources so where do you think this is going -here come the contractors-
Comment 02/25/14: Just like IBM to try to spin "good" (sarcastic) news by the NY State 3100 jobs create non sense announcement so close to impending BAD news of another RA this week. LIFE@IBM IS NOT GOOD -trexibmer-
Comment 02/25/14: How do we really know 7000 IBM jobs are in the Hudson Valley now? Are they actual IBM employees, managers, or contractors in that ESTIMATE and where are they? Show us the number breakdown IBM now. As a NY taxpayer I have a right to know where my taxes are going or not going! -numbers_pleeze-
Alliance reply: IBM will not show you any numbers that they aren't legally obligated to show. IBM has not released actual headcount numbers of their US employees since the end of 2009. Your right to know where your taxes are going comes from NYS government. If NYS knows
the numbers of employees being fired and the actual number of IBM employees presently active in the Hudson Valley, then they should be petitioned by the taxpayers to get that information. Otherwise, you are at the mercy of IBM's "lies by omission" and NYS 's collusion.

Comment 02/25/14: You should have a twitter account... It would get more attention and press.. And people could get info without having to come to this site -Anon-
Alliance reply: Yes, we DO have a Twitter account. Actually, we have two. @Allianceibm and @alliancenatcord. We have had both of them since 2009. if you visit our front page there are links to Twitter and Facebook at the top of the page, center column (Spotlight). Our Facebook account is "Allianceibm Cwa". Please peruse our entire web site. There is nearly 15 years worth of information about organizing IBM. We have been getting Media attention for most of that 14 year period (since 1999). The "internet news" seems to cover what IBM does, much more than the MSM; however, through it all, Alliance@IBM continues to be the source for information about IBM employees that IBM employees do not get from IBM. Our web visitor counter is 7.2 million and counting. We've averaged 23,000 visits daily for February 2014, so far. You can support our cause of IBM employee advocacy and the work toward a collective bargaining agreement, by making a donation or joining us as a full member for $15/month. Join here or Donate here Thank you for your support!
Comment 02/25/14: This is insanity! Total spin! Essentially Cuomo's actual announcement should have been IBM will "only" fire close to FOUR THOUSAND people in the Hudson Valley and this is supposed to be a good thing? The IBMers at East Fishkill are at their breaking point due to the stress. Thanks, Coumo...for NOTHING! -spinstartshere-
Comment 02/25/14: IBM says bye-bye to hardware and hello to the cloud.
Here are two things you didn't know about IBM: More than 200,000 of its employees are located in the Netherlands, and it is the third-largest seller of software applications in the world. OK, the first item isn't exactly correct; those 200,000 employees are only in Holland on paper -- it's a perfectly legal tax dodge [1]. But the second item is exactly right, says Forrester Research analyst Andrew Bartels. By next year, he says, IBM's application business will be worth about $8 billion, behind SAP and Oracle and ahead of Microsoft, excluding sales of Office. "IBM simply doesn't like to talk about the application business because it makes its partners uncomfortable," Bartels tells me.
Comment 02/25/14: Gov. Andrew Cuomo's IBM announcement Monday in Buffalo left unclear some details important to IBMers wondering about their futures in a climate of downsizing and important to the mid-Hudson economy, where IBM Corp. remains the top private employer.
State Sen. Greg Ball, R-Patterson, said: "Anything Gov. Cuomo can do to keep a multinational corporation like IBM honest is to be applauded. That said, this isn't our first time to the rodeo. IBM has consistently accepted taxpayer-funded windfalls while systematically offshoring American jobs, and unfortunately I do not see an immediate solution to this fundamental reality. "The devil will be in the details and if IBM isn't held to a firm standard, they will find a way to wiggle loose at the expense of local taxpayers and employees," Ball said. "That leaves room for IBM to cut a lot more jobs," he said. So IBM is committed to preserving 3,100 jobs. Who is going to check that? Is IBM going to release employment numbers yearly? I don't think so. -Anonymous-

Comment 02/25/14: Anybody know the count of Kenexa employees laid off in India, so far? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/24/14: I am a former IBMer who now works for an IBM supplier. Big Blue are asking us if we are ok with them delaying putting our invoices into their payment system until April 1st. Some of the invoices date back to 2013. It is not as if IBM is short on cash, but they are clearly trying to manipulate Q1 results to look better than they real are. To those who remain, there is no honor in working for IBM anymore. -IBM_Is_Desparate-
Comment 02/24/14: Why in the world would anybody want to work for IBM today? -Former IBM'er-
Comment 02/24/14: So NYS wants to appear to be the savior of all these jobs? Well, maybe they shamed IBM enough and pointed out the tax benefits that IBM has been enjoying for supposedly providing all these jobs in NYS. So, you get to keep your "job". Sounds like living with your ex spouse after getting a divorce. Anyway, regarding the comments about GLOBALFOUNDRIES hiring, be very careful. I worked at GF and I encourage everyone to review reviews before considering that option. Good luck to all. -becareful-
Comment 02/24/14: Wow, these numbers from the NY announcement today don't really protect anybody. There are 7000 current employees in the area. IBM has "promised" to keep 3100 employed in the area through 2016. Plus, they said they will hire 750 in Dutchess County. So, if you subtract 750 from 3100, that leaves 2350 of the current 7000 employed they need to keep. This is not a real good deal for the current employees is it ? IBM could potentially lay off 4650 current employees from the Hudson Valley through 2016 and still be in compliance. Unless they were threatening to completely pull out of the area this year I don't understand how this saves any IBM employees job there this round of layoffs. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/24/14: Pok Journal article basically says were losing 3900 jobs in the Hudson Valley by 2016. That's a 50%+ cut in the workforce we have today. Why didn't anyone ask from the Journal "How is that a good thing less jobs and more unemployment in NYS?" -anon-
Comment 02/24/14: Smoke and mirrors if you get a chance to read the agreement you will see that IBM has negotiated the deal so that they will meet the 3100 and still fire the local workforce. You should know by now they don't do anything they can't meet. -lastdino1-
Comment 02/24/14: Alliance web site now blocked at Boulder CO IBM as of this morning. As the rumors of the upcoming layoff this week flew around the halls this morning, many employees in Boulder tried to access the Alliance Web Site and are now receiving a blocked site message. Several of us had visited the site on Friday 2/21. We feel this is due to upcoming RA and uproar it is going to cause. -ChinaCat-
Alliance reply: Alliance@IBM's web site is mobile friendly. It can be accessed from your phone. Reminder:
Don't use any IBM equipment to access Use your own personal phone.

Comment 02/24/14: Regarding this comment by Molinaro - "The news today is good. It?s good for those who will not lose their jobs," Molinaro said. "It is good for those who may be reemployed by IBM, and it?s good for Dutchess County ? in the context of stabilizing job losses and focusing on recovery."
It's good? For those who got laid off last year??? How dumb do these politicians think we are? Can IBM take back the stress and financial insecurity those folks have been going through? Is IBM going to rehire these people with their pensions and years' "served" reinstated? It's unbelievable that anybody would expect all of us who arent fired this week, and any former employee who is rehired, to feel thankful to IBM and/or politicians who created this very demeaning current situation. -Anonymous-

Comment 02/24/14: So how is NY State gonna positively know IBM has added the 3100 jobs when IBM never gives out NY or any State employment numbers? Hey IBM: some specifics like is it going to be in the Mid Hudson Valley at East Fishkill or Poughkeepsie campuses (Well, we know it will not be Kingston) or the upper Hudson Valley at Nanotech campus Trust IBM? Fool me once, but never twice! -IttyBittyMachines-
Comment 02/24/14: Don't know how this NY deal will work out or if it stopped the NY job cuts on Wednesday, but if it did I want to thank the Alliance for getting the word out on job cuts over a month ago. I am sure the Governor's reaction was due to this news. For all those NY IBMers that just had their jobs saved, thank the Alliance and join. -anon-
Comment 02/24/14: This NY State deal is horrible! What a way to spin something. This is IBM-speakease meaning we are going to lay YOU off. If there are currently approx. 7000 employees in the Hudson Valley, NY area, approx. 4000 employees will be RA-ed in order to keep the total number of employees at 3100. Oh, wait, the agreement says something about new hires. That means they will lay off MORE than 4000 and bring in a bunch of new contractors and workers from overseas. IBM lies by omission and spins things to make them look like they are helping keep jobs in the state, but in reality, many more people will be out of work. Don't believe their LIES! -miss_understanding-
Comment 02/24/14: I do not trust IBM or NYS. IBM to keep 3100 jobs in NY (Hudson Valley) What about the other 4000 employees in the Hudson Valley? There are 7000 employees in the area. -Smoke and mirrors-
Comment 02/24/14: Funny. It suddenly dawned on me that "1701" (Alliance@IBM's CWA Local number) is the same as the address on North St. in Endicott where I once mailed my receipts for home office phone line reimbursements (until they *finally* started accepting digital copies in the expense tool, which of course was long after the rest of the planet had already become smarter). It's all making sense now! -Aha!-
Alliance Reply: Basically the former IBM Workers United org originated in IBM Endicott in the mid 1970's. From there came the eventual Alliance@IBM. Once Alliance@IBM was official, we became a CWA Local and chose our local number as 1701. Also, remember that the "Starship Enterprise" ship of the show Star Trek, had the number 1701 as its designation, too. Not sure if that makes any sense, but it's only trivia, in the long run.

Comment 02/24/14: So, it seems that IBM and NY are agreeing to retain at least 3100 tech jobs in "the area", including new tech jobs to be created. So, looking at the numbers of employed IBMers today and a refresh of talent/ looks like we are looking at some more RA's to come between now and 2016. It all depends on what is defined as a "tech job" of course. At least, that is my interpretation. This is good news for politicians and young folks who are looking for a nano technology job with IBM in NY, but probably BAD news for many IBMers working in NY today. -Fairness101-
Comment 02/24/14: "Confirmed RA in IBM Malaysia, which happened 2 days ago. Around 100+ employees were fired. There is speculation that another round of RA will happen soon." -disappointed-
Any idea what is the selection criteria? I know this is part of project Apollo and apparently no country is spared except maybe their new found African market.
-1st line-
Comment 02/24/14: The rumors I have read on this board indicate that this week the 2014 RA tsunami should reach the US. I just wanted to say good luck to all my fellow IBMers. We do not deserve this but unfortunately without a union we are at thier mercy. Please share any information you hear, or know of as fact. I personally, come here several times a day for information. I am a dues paying member and appreciate the work that the Alliance does to keep us informed. Think about it, where is the first place you go-to when you hear of RA's? This board is our only communication across the continents and these United States. -Alliance_Fan-
Comment 02/24/14: IBM: More Cloud, Less People There is something very different about the latest $1 billion IBM is throwing at cloud computing. This sum says as much about the way the cloud is changing IBM as it says about the way IBM is pursuing the business of renting software and computing power over the Internet. And yes, the effects on the company almost certainly include layoffs somewhere down the line. -Anon-
Comment 02/23/14: Dutchess IBM jobs would be retained in new deal with New York state, officials say. Gov. Andrew Cuomo and IBM are set to announce a major economic-development agreement Monday that would preserve jobs in Dutchess County and expand the company's high-tech footprint in New York. The agreement includes a commitment from IBM to keep at least 3,100 high-tech jobs, mainly in Dutchess, through 2016, administration officials told the Journal?s Albany bureau. IBM cut 697 jobs in Poughkeepsie and East Fishkill last September, the latest in a series of local layoffs. The company now employs about 7,000 people in Dutchess, and how the agreement affects the remaining jobs was unclear.
The job commitment includes an increase of 750 positions that were largely lost through downsizing last year. The employment agreement is for jobs in the semiconductor sector and related fields, administration officials said. It largely impacts the facilities in East Fishkill and Poughkeepsie, but also at IBM?s Yorktown Heights, Westchester County, location and in the Albany area. -Liars-
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Comment 02/23/14: Is there any news on Australia cutoffs yet? -what's in name-
Comment 02/23/14: Just a heads up but was talking to a buddy down in fishkill today and he said wednesday is the day for RA actions in the NY area.Good luck to all -lastdino1-
Comment 02/23/14: So I resigned on Friday after 14 years at ibm, having accepted a position elsewhere. I had the honor of working with many great people - and a handful of real characters... I share people's disgust with many executive decisions - most recently the 401k change and crazy focus on the EPS target. For whatever reason what really offended me was when while laying off thousands they decided to pay $1 million to setup an office for Sam P. after he retired. The optics alone were so bad and the fact the board and Ginni felt that was the right thing to do really shows a level of arrogance that makes me shake my head. Frankly in the end I am not pro-Union. My reasons are many but I'd guess I'd net it out by saying if IBM had a Union back in the 1990's I am confident it would just have gone under. I don't believe Unions can provide company's the flexibility they need to change with the market. Having said all that IBM deserves a lot of the criticism, and the pressure the Alliance provides. I respect the Alliance members and leadership for speaking out and trying to force change. I wish everyone at IBM the best, and hope this next wave of changes is not too painful. -14 and enough-
Comment 02/23/14: IBM has laid off more than one third of it's US employees over the last 5 years while growing the workforce overseas. Why does the media ignore this? -Anonymous-
The answer is simple. They are not laying off the media. Its really not a lay off . When people are laid off they have the potential to return to the same job when business picks back up. What IBM does is called Firing. There is NO chance you will return as anything but a temporary contractor. What I wonder is why the remaining 2 thirds do even less then the media when its them who have everything to gain and nothing to lose.
Comment 02/23/14: Those people who think ibm gives out severance payments because they want to avoid lawsuits are only kidding themselves. What happened when 401k matches were changed to lump sum payments? Did they fear lawsuits and reversed their decision? Nope. ibm has an army of lawyers who probably welcome any kind of legal challenge. You are nothing to them. Just an ant on the bottom of the big blue shoe. Unless you join the union and fight for your rights, your single voice means nothing. -Blue Eyed Blind-
Comment 02/23/14: @IBMrTaxBreakCheats, You are correct about parking lots. What media and politicians should do is have fly overs (or drones) take images of site parking lots middle of the day. The Somers facility is a ghost town with one bldg moth balled, all the others have roped off lots. T.J. Watson even with the "new jobs" is never more than 3/4 full. Both sites in years past were bulging with cars parked on ancillary roads as there were not enough spots. Same with PoK, Fishkill - recall when I84 was built the Lime Kiln Road exit was added to handle all the IBM traffic. Rt 52 was backed up for a mike in the AM rush hour. Now, pick a spot, any spot. Guess her highness worried about finding a spot at T.J. Watson as they built a helicopter landing pad for her a year or so ago. In a 'let them eat cake" moment" While folks were being RA'd there she made an arrival scene in view of all. -Anon-
Comment 02/23/14: Rumors have begun to circulate about a possible GlobalFoundries buyout of IBM BTV. Has anyone reported this possability? -Canned@BTV-
Comment 02/23/14: I fully agree with the Bangalore eda person, the Bangalore management promotes mediocrity and protects "yes boss" type of employees. most of the managers made enough money already and are looking forward to risk free life. it's interesting how these low skilled (ms office) people call the shots and decide the fate of the hard working technical work force. Ihope some accountability is brought to the managers and tech people's ratings, awards and promotions are made based on technical contributions. as of today the ratings, promotions and awards are arbitrary and at sole discretion of manager. i know of several talented people including my tech lead were deprived of promotion while yes boss' got promoted. shame on the management for losing all top talent and building a laid back low performance work culture. -anon-
Comment 02/23/14: Here's my layoff story. I got laid off at Bangalore on 14 Feb 2014.
I was in the middle of responding to an email from my US teammate, when my second line manager called me for a meeting, and told me that "IBM has decided to reassess its skill set, blah blah, and it has been decided that your skills are not essential in future, etc. etc.".
There was also another HR guy, who then proceeded to do the paperwork.
I was given a package amounting to about 5 months of salary. Then they literally "escorted" me out of the building and took away my badge.
I was essentially made a scapegoat to protect the mediocre people whom the management of another team finds easier to control. (I was in the EDA, and the Processor team's manager essentially controls the EDA.) I got 2+, 1 and 2+ (in 2010, 2011, 2012), and was promoted twice in consecutive years, but this time round, I was given a 3 because ... guess what ... I was "distracted". 2 hours later, my first line manager was also laid off. Now we are looking for new jobs together! :)
PS: I was making plans to look for other jobs starting March anyway, so if anything, this so-called rebalancing only helped me, since I don't need to serve out the stupid 3 month notice period (that's right, notice period is 3 months in IBM India, and it cannot be bought), and I also got the "package". -Anonymous-

Comment 02/23/14: There is no gdp program but rating 1s get the special bonus. in Australia its only the usual fire 5% of the workforce and replace them with grads. With redundancy payouts ibm has only ever paid bare minimum. as for ibm being a resume stain in oz it really depends on skillset and accounts you've worked on. For example the myer debacle might look bad but it was really caused by the failure of an infosys product still in warranty from them. Ibm was providing level 2 support services. -anon-
Comment 02/23/14: IBM is no longer the good company it once was when i joined a few decades back. employees are now treated like expenses and not a single opportunity is missed to get rid of them. exec do not realize that they need real good employees and a good work culture to do the next big thing. i don't think i can find a job outside given that the stuff i have been doing might be done with a younger generation. Iwill wait for my turn to be thrown out from here, and then figure out a way to pay my bills. my advice to younger generation is to up skill and find a better job. -anon-
Comment 02/22/14: I am sorry to see so many RA'd. A silver lining for all of you: Folks in technical areas should be in a good position to find a better job. I was RA'd in 2013. After a few months of contract work for various companies, I've landed my dream job. I make 20% more than I did at IBM, and the environment is so much more positive! Also a standard 5% growth bonus for ALL employees. No PBC bs. I wish you all the best. Keep your chins up, keep applying, life will get better. I promise. -happy-to-be-gone-
Comment 02/22/14: -whatever- Where did you find your information "2 weeks notice per year worked" in Canada? Looking forward to being RA'd, but I've suffered too long to be going for free. -ibmIsBeingPlundered-
Comment 02/22/14: Though I suppose the underlying policy can change at any time, for any reason -- the 2013 GBS layoff saw 2 weeks' severance pay for every year of prior employment. Additionally, those (2013 GBS layoff) candidates received approx. one month's advance notification, so they had ~4 weeks to "look for new jobs within IBM." We've already seen examples where such relatively-generous terms were not extended; only time will tell what Big Blue does or does not offer going forward. -SimpleMath-
Comment 02/22/14: @Pants on Fire. There were articles in the local papers about that and some county legislators tried to block it. IBM also wanted the tax break to help with asbestos mitigation during office renovations even though the mitigation has been going on for decades. -Anon-
Comment 02/22/14: Is IBM required to give severance pay in the USA? No, they are not. However, if they do not give the pay, they are taking a risk. The risk is that without the lure of the severance pay, the job cut packets will get to the media and people will take them to court for wrongs where they will be forced to present information in public. With the way IBM wants to keep this out of the public eye, I am willing to bet that even PBC 3s get a severance package of some sort. As for IBM suing those that do not follow the agreement, I am sure IBM is suing them. Again, they are good at coming up with settlements out of court, especially in states like MN where one does not have to file a case in court to start a lawsuit. For those who do not need the severance money, consider if the cost to your rights is worth it. -Gone since '02-
Comment 02/22/14: whatever: ok, let's then also cut scaring people about RAs too. I think you are giving IBM too much credit on how they handle severance. -whadayathink-
Comment 02/22/14: Liar liar Pants on Fire: Absolutely right! Is it IBM deception or obfuscation or just plain ignorance (my vote)?
IBM also bullied and threatened the Town of Yorktown about tax assessments for TJ Watson Research. Such fine corporate citizens IBM is (well, maybe in Armonk still).. IBM has lost net jobs in East Fishkill and Poughkeepsie too. IBM makes it difficult to prove (but look at the parking lots over the past year or so..) since they don't supply site numbers or employees at these sites anymore ("for competitive reasons")??? YET they still get the tax breaks (PILOT) since IBM says "they are creating jobs". Sure, create one job and RA or outsource or move jobs three at the same time from EFK and/or POK. PROVE you are creating jobs IBM! Trust IBM on their word? Try to get ANYTHING from IBM not for their behalf in writing!
Comment 02/22/14: Re: Blue's Tax's "Between 2000 and 2013, IBM received $880 million in tax breaks from state and local governments, mostly via industrial development agencies, to expand operations in New York, said the Washington-based group Good Jobs First."
An example is the T.J. Watson Research Center two years ago asking the town of New Castle for and receiving a tax break it was claimed " the creation of 400 jobs". What IBM neglected to tell the town was that the 400 jobs were coming from closure of Watson's satellite site in Hawthorne - about 15 miles away. Net reality not a single new job was created. It was part of an over all cost consolidation. -Liar Liar Pants on Fire-

Comment 02/22/14: IBM claims that they respect the laws of the places where they operate. It is very sad to say that its policies are made to cheat and fool its employees and government. Tax evasion in India roughly $1b is one example.
Another example is fraud with US Government. When IBM sends people to US, they mention salary X as the gross salary the employee will get. The same amount X is communicated with the consulate as being paid to the employee. On other hand IBM claims that the taxes paid to US Government from the gross salary being paid to the employee is actually paid by IBM. IBM thus takes the tax refund amount received by the employee. If consulate was informed that X salary was paid to employee then how can IBM claim part of that X is paid by IBM? Isn't it a fraud and cheating with US Government and the employee. I heard there are very strict laws in US if someone is being paid less than minimum wages in U.S. Does U.S. Government has any nexus with these big companies. Thinking of filing a lawsuit as I am already RAed. -Anonymous-

Comment 02/22/14: People need to stop scaring others about reduced severance. There is no proof of that, plus in Canada you're entitled to one week pay per year worked regardless of PBC. Plus you're also suppose to be given 2 weeks notice per year worked so if anyone actually fought it you would get 3 weeks pay per year worked but no one does and they take the 2 weeks. Ibm is actually saving $$ on the two weeks. Only way you would get nothing is if you're a contractor, you quit or got fired. -whatever-
Alliance reply: There is no guarantee of severance pay in the US:

Comment 02/22/14: "If they ever drop severance, you can bet there will be more people talking about getting RA'd"
So IBM gives you a severance, blacklists you from getting another IBM job, and basically fires you without cause and says they did nothing wrong and tries to institute a gag order to protect IBM's interests? LOL. IBM = FUD
Has IBM ever went after anyone they RAed? Once that severance is in your hands you are terminated from IBM. Period. So why can't you talk? You are no longer an IBMer. I bet these ex-IBMers would still be scared about speaking out, severance or not. They can talk after they spend their severance, get another gig, or collect unemployment. These are the same IBMers who still will not even join the Alliance, and anonymously at that. Get something called a real labor contract. -RASpeakUp-

Comment 02/22/14: For those IBMers who were RAed and now no longer get unemployment insurance (UI) benefits:
How come the US and state governments don't consider you unemployed when you are not retired and still looking for a job that IBM took from you just because you have no UI left? It makes no sense to me that the unemployment rate is going down when IBM employment in the USA is going down with continued drive by firings and RAs. It's like these people fall of the face of the employed world. It is wrong. It is sad. These people are still alive. They had jobs. And yet it continues.. -6.5%&going_down?-

Comment 02/22/14: "IBM has laid off more than one third of it's US employees over the last 5 years while growing the workforce overseas. Why does the media ignore this?"
Because IBM can. Because IBM can see to it. Because IBM can stop reporting USA employee counts and still get tax breaks based on job numbers, retention, and job creation they don't reveal. IBM still has billion$ of $$$ to influence and even threaten the media and keep it largely out of the big news markets. Some news does get out to news outlets but it is sporadic and limited. IBM is basically buying out the big news media and the State and local county government economic development agencies. -anonymous2-

Comment 02/22/14: Surprised that PWC has not issued a "going concern" letter. With all of the creative accounting methods meant to bamboozle investors, its a wonder their independent auditor has not resigned. Prediction: we'll watch IBMs demise in a future episode of American Greed. -GreedWontWin-
Comment 02/22/14: -Goodbye- That's how they did me last June: a sudden, untitled meeting with my manager. And in an unexpected turn of events, they got rid of him too, which at the time seemed like at least a molecule's worth of justice given a really offensive thing he'd said in my PBC meeting(s) earlier in the year. -empathy-
Comment 02/22/14: To -whowantsmyshares- The 6% bonus is confirmed, PBC 1s will get it. FYI - some managers was informed that no GDP for anyone, others heard differently. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/22/14: In regards to the Stock Awards IBM gave the Employee's for making the 2010 Roadmap. The Award was given on 06/16/2011. 7 Restricted Stock Units ( RSU's). The Award does NOT Vest until 12/01/2015. So the bottom line is: If you are not Employed on 12/01/2015...You Get NOTHING! This is the excerpt from the Awards Document:
Termination of Employment
In the event you cease to be an employee (other than on account of death or becoming disabled as described in Section 12 of the Plan) prior to the Vesting Date(s) set in your Equity Award Agreement, all then unvested RSUs under your Award shall be canceled. -Seems Unfair-

Comment 02/22/14: A new report that finds IBM Corp. paid far less than the 35 percent corporate tax rate over 12 years is no surprise to tax experts who say that's legal and common among U.S. multinational firms. According to the report from Citizens for Tax Justice, IBM paid an effective corporate tax rate of 5.2 percent between 2001 and 2012. The group released its analysis after Bloomberg News published a story this month about IBM?s offshore tax strategies. Citizens for Tax Justice also said Armonk-based IBM paid an average 29.3 percent tax rate on its overseas operations during the 12-year period, a rate about five times higher that it paid in the U.S. IBM says the group's analysis "is misleading and does not represent an accurate depiction of IBM's tax liability owed on its U.S. operations"
Comment 02/22/14: Appears that management rats are jumping the IBM ship: Current IBM management=no vision, no courage coupled with unfettered corruption and greed. My opinion.
-Idiots Become Managers-
Comment 02/21/14: To all those top performers (PBC 1) Ginni promissed a 6% bonus, well she just changed her mind. Has this been verified on VT or anywhere? -whowantsmyshares-
Comment 02/21/14: To -pointy stick - regarding - I overheard a conversation at the beginning of the year and now the cogs are clicking into place. I strongly suspect actually next Monday (24th) the knives will be out in the US, at least in the north east .......My manager schedule a meeting with me today for Monday Feb 24, don?t have a good feeling about this at all. Guess this is it for me if you are correct? -Goodbye-
Comment 02/21/14: IBM has laid off more than one third of it's US employees over the last 5 years while growing the workforce overseas. Why does the media ignore this? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/21/14: The one of the reasons for so little RA press coverage is that if you accept the severance, you also agree to not speak to the
press. If they ever drop severance, you can bet there will be more people talking about getting RA'd. -Gettin-Hosed-

Comment 02/21/14: IBM is having it's own Olympic games. Think of all of the countries involved. The winners get to keep their jobs (for a little
while anyway). At least IBM is sharing the RA with Asia & South America this time. Europe, North America and Australia would hate to hog all the fun. Ginni Rometty, you seem to be "distracted", the IBM employees of the world give you a PBC of "3". Your RA is coming! -IBM Olympics-

Comment 02/21/14: Big Blue investors may not have a winning hand. -Anon-
Comment 02/21/14: Heard that only 1s & 2+s RA'd next week will get full severance pkg. 2s will get 1/2, and 3s will get nothing. -Anon-
Comment 02/21/14: -Anonymous- Regarding the ACA. There are calculators available for you to use to estimate what your insurance costs would be based on your location etc. They use the Modified AGI to calculate how much money you will make in 2014. I am not sure if the separation pay is included but I assume it is because it is taxable. If you live in a state where you can collect unemployment, that will also be taxable and included in the MAGI. If you also include 3 months of income you received before being laid off, I doubt you would be eligible for much of s subsidy in 2014. If you are still unemployed or working part time in 2015, it would be more likely to help you. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/21/14: I have gone up two levels and to ask for a package if RA's are coming to my segment. I've had very positive interactions with companies that concentrate on customer value, innovation and product engineering rather than short term financial engineering. I'm hopeful that outside IBM, things are much better. All the real talent that I worked with have already left IBM. There's a perception that the only reason anyone is still here is that they can't find another job. There is no passion for IBM and what they do. IBM markets to it's employees as if they are customers. Look at Ginni's 2014 speech, it was nothing but propaganda. How the CFO can publicly say that $1B is put aside for layoffs and a few days later the CEO fail to even mention it in a ~30min all-hands talk is beyond insane to me. IBM treats their employees as if they were retarded children. -Exit stage right-
Comment 02/21/14: Is there an actual number available of how many people have been RA'd? It seems strange there has been such little coverage of what is happening, and how many of my co-workers that do not know what is going on. I just recently started working for this company, and I am not impressed in the least bit, hopefully there is a turning point but that seems unlikely. To all that have been RA'd and I have read many of your stories I am sorry you were treated the way you were. -Anon-
Alliance reply: First, IBM stopped publishing actual head count in 2010. They will never again share those numbers as they did in the past, so that a calculation can be made to figure out the number of firings. The Alliance front page has estimates of IBM employee numbers, calculated since 2009, based on RA packages from affected workers. Second, if you are referring to Mainstream Media coverage, then you won't really see it. Most of the media coverage is internet based and not from the big corporate media outlets. If it wasn't for Alliance@IBM, even that coverage would be non-existent. Finally, thank you for making important points about what IBM has been doing to its employees for two decades. Your empathy is appreciated; but your support of the effort to organize IBM US is valued even more. If IBMers in the US organize and fight for a collectively bargained contract, the misery of layoffs/firings and abuse *could* come to an end. Thank you for your comments.

Comment 02/21/14: to one who posted on bailing shares. Its just not execs @ IBM, execs @ other tech firms are also bailing out for last 6 months. Look out for Google and Amazon. I expect IBM house of cards to fall faster in a year or two. -to_bailing_shares-
Comment 02/21/14: Does anyone have any news on upcoming redundancies in Australia? I know of GMU folks based in Oz who are going - but no word yet for us local employees. Been over 20 years and I've never seen morale so bad as it is at the moment. My advice to anyone with any marketable skills - get out while you can, I've tested the market and I can tell you having IBM on your resume is now seen as a *negative*. Remember - as the old song says "There is Power in a Union". -Ozzie-
Comment 02/21/14: The rule of thumb is that if IBM is taking a $1 billion charge then they are taking out $2 billion of payroll. Therefore if each employee affected his $100,000 per year, then the total employees targeted for layoff would be 20,000. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/21/14: Confirmed RA in IBM Malaysia, which happened 2 days ago. Around 100+ employees were fired. There is speculation that another round of RA will happen soon. -disappointed-
Comment 02/20/14: -Anonymous from Brazil- Don't be shocked, IBM has been doing this to US employees for years. It doesn't matter if you are a good performer, a dedicated employee etc etc. When they need to cut to save money, everyone is fair game. It is not a matter of if you will get laid off, it is just a question of when you will be laid off unless the workers organize. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/20/14: (looking back over a few heart-wrenching posts)
"Ginni promissed .. changed her mind .. good luck .. same old BS .. good performance .. dedicated and honest .. shocked that IBM is firing very good and decent people .. Most staff doesn't even know .. job cut numbers .. sad cycle .. outrage .. job cuts in the US .. day of reckoning...."
Ah, the words of the unorganized! I was one of them. I vaguely recall kind people handing out literature at one of the Poughkeepsie cafeterias (B/414 to be precise) from time to time, me smugly thinking, "What kind of idiots could possibly want to organize against so benevolent and generous a company?"
Well, I was out last July, at least a decade too young to be retiring. WAKE UP, little snoozy, WAKE UP! -rip-van-sink-el-
Comment 02/20/14: To all those top performers (PBC 1) Ginni promissed a 6% bonus, well she just changed her mind. Nothing, nada, zero and as for a pay raise for PBC 1s, well good luck, it's based on your band level and what point you are / market value etc, same old BS song and dance they give us year after. -Anon-
LOL. Me thinks Ginni will be sacked by the board before she pulls a Carly Fiornia on IBM and takes it to the brink. Ginni seems to be, in over her head. I remember her Think40 challenge to endeavour to spend 40 hours educating your self. Well it was all lip service from above because the program had no money set aside or teeth and the managers were not mandated to help workers to participate in the program. Much of it was you using your own private time and/or money going on the Web and educating yourself. It was a scam and is a proof of IBM's disinvestment in its employees as it funnels more of the profits to Wall Street scum. -another anon-

Comment 02/20/14: In preparation for upcoming layoffs in the U.S., does anyone know how our health coverage might be positively impacted by the Affordable Care Act (ACA, aka "Obamacare")? I am theorizing that post-layoff we would now be eligible for unemployment benefits as well as full ACA benefits at no cost? If not currently in need of superior medical care (i.e. working through a current medical condition), it seems like paying $$$ for COBRA would be a waste. I'm curious for the opinions or findings of those who have explored this topic further. Good luck too all in the next few weeks, and thanks for Alliance for making this public forum available. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/20/14: As we near the day of reckoning for job cuts in the US, many of us that have seen this happen before, expect there to be white hot outrage at IBM. Unfortuantely we have also seen that outrage dissipate quickly. I can only say, keep stoking that outrage and convert it into organizing. Otherwise we keep repeating this sad cycle. -member-
Comment 02/20/14: It is almost impossible to report on the job cut numbers ... here in canada most people work from home, they don't meet in the office to talk, and RAd people are not exactly proud when RAd, so we don't even know that someone has been's always very hush hush. Most staff doesn't even know resource actions are going on. -hush-
Alliance reply: The fact that you are visiting our page and hopefully getting useful information is a plus in your favor. The more your co-workers that know about Alliance@IBM's page, the better. Find ways to communicate what you know to them. Spread the word.
An informed workforce is an organized workforce.

Comment 02/20/14: For those in the NY/VT area who may soon be looking. Global Foundries is adding $2 bil in capital and 1000 new jobs by years end. -Waiting with bated breath-
Comment 02/20/14: In Brazil, we heard about 400 to 1,500 employees being or to be fired (from a total of around 20,000 employees). This week, each day I come to the office I hear about at least 2 or 3 people I know that have been fired (from GBS, SO Delivery, etc.). Some of them use to have a good performance, were very dedicated and honest and had a friendly attitude to all their colleagues, were working in IBM for more than 10 years (some of them for 30 or 40 years !), many in their late 40s to early 60s, some managers (even 2nd lines). I mean, I am shocked that IBM is firing very good and decent people, dedicated employees, only to save some money... -Anonymous-
Comment 02/20/14: Getting conflicting info regarding the 6% bonus for top performers. Some teams hearing they will get it. others stating No GDP for anyone.. -Anon-
Comment 02/20/14: To all those top performers (PBC 1) Ginni promissed a 6% bonus, well she just changed her mind. Nothing, nada, zero and as for a pay raise for PBC 1s, well good luck, it's based on your band level and what point you are / market value etc, same old BS song and dance they give us year after. -Anon-
Comment 02/20/14: Hmmmm.... IBM Directors bailing shares. -Anon-
Comment 02/19/14: Any second line manager here that can share what ibm strategy is? how many RAs are expected this year? How about Brazil? -Johnin sap-
Comment 02/19/14: In Brazil, many former Blue Harmony team members are being fired, just because they had the "bad luck" of not having allocation at this exact month, no matter how they contributed in the past, or how much they would be able to contribute in the future. What a short term management "strategy" ! Managers seem to be acting in "despair mode". -Anonymous-
Comment 02/19/14: Today Mexico GDL site started with the RA -Anonymous-
Comment 02/19/14: China STG RAs is confirmed. I work with a few teams in China. Some of the teams were all cut. So far, the number I have gathered from the teams that I work with 23 out of 33 will be gone in 2 days. Waiting to see next week US STG. -Anon-
Comment 02/19/14: If they are making massive cuts in India, China and Brazil I would suspect there are far more than 15K overall worldwide being cut. The cost and savings to IBM to layoff somebody in those countries is much lower than the cost in the US because their wages and burden rates are much lower than a US, Western European or Australian employee. Add this 15K + number to probably 50% of the current STG X-series team that Lenovo will not offer positions to and there will be well over 20K roadkilled by IBM one way or the other very shortly. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/19/14: IBM remains stingy on details regarding U.S. layoffs - -BlueNoMore-

Comment 02/19/14: RA started today in IBM Phils. No details yet on how many will go. Some in GTS/TSS have already been informed. -anonymous-
Comment 02/19/14: Any recent updates on IBM India RA Action? Has Kolkata been affected yet or GBS GD for that matter? -whats-in-a-name-
Comment 02/19/14: China is now the go to exploitation target for tech and US corporations. I know a lot of our development has gone to China from the US. Africa is on the frontier for re-exploitation after China. After that it will come back to the US. By then US will become attractive again. It is already happening in manufacturing as it is coming back to the US. As you can see, you cannot rest on your laurels and plan your life around US corps. At least in India this will help reduce the crushing inflation on the working classes as they had to compete with overpaid, surly tech workers amongst them and possibly bring religion and Zen back into Indian life as US corps exit. Bangalore a once beautiful and temperate British hill station for the hot months, has now seen its 300 year old trees destroyed and reduce into a cramped ugly metropolis. Hopefully the tech workers will leave Bangalore and move to Beijing and Banaglore will come back to its original inhabitants. -dd-
Comment 02/19/14: Flash news: Second wave of RAs in STG India will start in second quarter ..June 2014 and Mgrs are busy as ever preparing the list .. -STG India-
Comment 02/18/14: IBM India SWG Rational labs shootout news==100 out of 300 engineers flushed out of IBM building in waves of tears.....The remaining are support staff and key developers.Basically IBM SWG Rational India and products are busted lock-stock-n-barrel. -blindIBM-
Comment 02/18/14: RAs in Brazil, full power, so far about 400, mostly PBC 3 in Technical areas, and any in Manager area (BDM, SDM, TPM and Ms). -anonymous-
Comment 02/18/14: Anyone in the System X STG group who got sold to Lenovo who's not actively looking for a new job is being foolish. We keep hearing how Lenovo knows how to sell in bulk. If that's the case why didn't IBM make them their #1 re-seller? -Sold-to-Lenovo-
Comment 02/18/14: Does anyone has any news about the lay offs in Brazil? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/18/14: The RA started in Mexico on Feb 17th, the is a rumor saying 300 will be out -vigilant-
Comment 02/18/14: I overheard a conversation at the beginning of the year and now the cogs are clicking into place. I strongly suspect actually next Monday (24th) the knives will be out in the US, at least in the north east. -pointy stick-
Comment 02/18/14: Rumour has it the Australian redundancies expected either this week or next. Pay outs expected to be less than previous years. Management ordered to get a set number of people off the books by 31st March. All brands. This despite new managers re-locating to Australia (at great cost!) to take up new roles (instead of putting locals in to the jobs). Existing bad managers getting their own cronies in because they are Yes men. -GoingGoingGone-
Comment 02/18/14: Heard from manager that China STG cuts will be announced tonight (Wednesday there). No information/comment on whether US STG will also be tommorow. -If you can dodge a wrench-
Comment 02/18/14: We still stand in solidarity with out global IBMers in Canada, Australia, European countries, China, and South America, and now especially in India with the massive disrespectful and undignified RA firings.
The Alliance has made it clear it wants to stop further RAs not only in the USA but ANYWHERE IBM employees are! If we helped in Bangalore stave ONE IBM employee's job we are proving our actions are working. We just NEED MORE TO JOIN our cause: here in the USA and in other countries. Strength is in numbers/members.
Comment 02/18/14: Today, I heard some people from India SWG were RA'ed by giving rating 3. The number of of people were 5-6. More to go in coming days. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/18/14: RA happened in EDA Bangalore site. Overall 9 people so far. Mainly in server side. ASICS is on hold. More to come -Sam-
Comment 02/18/14: -concerned_but_frustrated-: and to all of Research Triangle Park, NC:
I am also concerned and frustrated that the vast majority of IBMers in Raleigh and Cary have not caught on to joining the Alliance. I don't know why other than fear and ambivalence which is a bit disconcerting given IBM's continued labor practices. If you have been at RTP long enough for a few years you should have noticed someone who they called "Mr. Picket Man" at just outside the main Cornwallis gate in the AM before start of the daily shift. He was an Alliance member. And I know he was no myth no matter what IBM management might tell you: he was a REAL person, humble and empathetic, not at all disgruntled, honest, insightful and spoke the hard truth about IBM for anyone who would read his signs or listen. I know he existed: I was there with him to help him one beautiful spring day holding one of his hand crafted signs! And darn proud to help him! He was even interviewed by local radio and TV in Raleigh. The Alliance has had albeit sporadic presence in RTP for years. Sadly, IBM made sure of it that Picket Man was RAed since IBM can't stand to hear the truth. But he fought the good fight! Lee Conrad has been at RTP a few times himself.
Check you RTP break (snack) areas or cafeteria someday soon.
You might seen an Alliance flyer there. If we just get one or two people to canvass these areas at random times more word will get out. It is never too late to get the word out.
Comment 02/18/14: 15 people fired from Mumbai Nirlon office (Netsol division), stores person reported 10 tps already received and 5 more expected. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/18/14: I worked for IBM Research for many years, and left a couple of years ago to another industrial research lab. On a side note, I can only say that this was the best decision I made in my career. Most of the researchers I know (especially those who worked at Research in its heyday) treat IBM as a dead end these days. I used to get IBMer's CVs with lists of papers and patents, and usually did my best to help them in my current job. Recently, they're full of press releases, instead. As a bit of friendly advice: Please don't include these. They look bad, and only make it hard for us who want to help fellow IBMers. Remember, in places that still do research, only academic publications count. -Former IBMer-
Comment 02/17/14: IBM Rational india also RA'd a hell lot of people yesterday. But unlike the STG employes who were given just 2 hours these people have been informed in advance about the layoffs. -IBMRational-
Comment 02/17/14: To all: please keep to the purpose of this comment section. It is for reporting job cuts and things that lead to job cuts. And remember, this is a moderated section. -Alliance-
Comment 02/17/14: worst thing about working so much overtime is that it's not even for our clients or for things that matter. I spend so much time planning fluff so that our superiors' forecast reports look good and after 60 hrs weeks i have no time to work on anything valuable. -feeling-stupid-
Comment 02/17/14: not heard of any more layoffs today in India or elsewhere, whats happening? india stg 50 ibmers were shown the door, what else? when is the next round coming? -kavya-
Comment 02/17/14: Every year, another layoff. Every year, more people coming here crying, "How can they do this? Don't they know that it hurts morale / looks bad / is immoral / blah blah blah?" IBM will continue to do this until 1) employees have some leverage to stop it, or 2) they break the business. You can leave, wait for the business to break, or join the union and try to force the behavior you'd like to see. There is no alternative. -irRational-
Comment 02/17/14: RE: -Anonymous Coward- - Yes, I cannot fathom what planet those Glassdoor reviews come from. They either have to be brand new, new hires, or fake posts by HR to make working for IBM look palatable. -robot-glassdoor-poster-#2134-
Comment 02/17/14: WHY CAN'T IBM OFFER BUYOUT's for employee's nearing retirement versus laying off employee's indiscriminately? I am an older employee nearing retirement and it would probably incent me to leave. It would kill 2 birds with one stone -
1) reduce staff, probably thousands and
2) help maintain the little to non-existent morale that is left.
Also, since accepting a financial package is considered voluntarily quitting, IBM could save unemployment insurance. Guess, they would rather buy back shares and pay executive bonuses instead. -IBM_Think_About_it-
Alliance Reply: IBM does not care what you think about buyout's for workers nearing retirement. Besides, they've done that and stopped doing it in the 1990's, in the US. You are an "At Will Employee" and unfortunately, you have no guarantees regarding your retirement or when IBM will fire you for any reason or no reason. It's time that US IBM workers come to grips with this reality and then decide to form a union and stand together to achieve a union contract for IBM workers.

Comment 02/17/14: I'm curious if IBM still recruits at US college campuses. Even more curiously, I wonder if they use the blantantly fraudulent pay range charts to entice recruits. -Jeff Johnson-
Comment 02/17/14: When it comes to layoffs, the real hard workers are let go. These are the people that don't call in sick, and there are people that go away on 6 months disability and come back and they seem to be fine. There are still manager's favorites who don't put in their hours of work but report everything that goes on in the dept to the manager; and lastly they lay off all the skilled workers and how many of these first line managers went to college and finished some education and how to pick the list of good workers that go first and the favorites remain? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/17/14: The Alliance updates on stg Bangalore job cuts led to very bad press coverage in India. SSE and EDA job cuts were put on hold initially, and now we hear the stg Bangalore jobs cuts are a done deal. On behalf of SSE team I would like to thank Alliance for saving some of our jobs and providing some time for us to find another job in a better company. -anon_thanks_alliance-
Comment 02/17/14:
Country = UK
Union Affiliate = n\a
Job Title = anonymous
IBM Division = IBM UK
Message = IBM UK is losing hundreds of jobs this quarter through voluntary separation, which will go involuntary if not enough volunteers. All divisions affected, ISC, GTS, S&D, etc. This after the sale of its global BTO CRM business, and sale x86 to lenovo,hundreds more out the door, well done again IBM execs! your 2015 strategy is working. -anonymous-

Comment 02/17/14: I'm pretty sure the reviews on are planted by HR or management. I don't see, how given the current turmoil, the CEO can have a >50% approval rating, and >50% company recommendation. Many of the recent reviews read suspiciously. -Anonymous Coward-
Comment 02/16/14: Whats even more sad is that most people don't seem to realize that the bonus money that no on is getting is actually being used to layoff your fellow co-workers lol ugly way to do business. -whatever-
Comment 02/16/14: Many talk about being RA'd, but don't post detail about the RA package offered. I understand not wanting to admit this to friends and co-workers, but what is the hurt posting on an anonymous forum? Also, for the record: RA began hitting at Partner level for IBM GBS US mid-Jan. Please post your package here- it will help other IBMers better plan for their families... -GBS_2+-
Comment 02/16/14: -anonymous-: I remember the 60 hour work week well. It was a relief from the 70 hour work week. It was usually caused by having to do things the dumb way because doing things smarter ways were interpreted by coworkers and management as "not being a team player", which didn't bode well at PBC evaluation time. That kind of mentality fostered by coworkers and management pretty much guaranteed that the workplace would remain a "least common denominator planet" instead of a smarter planet. And so it goes when recognition and reward aren't skills and accomplishments based. -same-old-same-old-
Comment 02/16/14: -@not-a-star 2- Nobody has been "complacent" in their jobs. Majority of the Indians always keep an eye on changing jobs, and few people work more than 5 years at one company. The only exception to this are the mediocre employees who cannot possibly do anything else than what they are doing (and eventually move into management).
The concern here that most of us "RA"d employees have is the manner in which we were shown the door. I got RA'd last week, but guess what, I had been looking to move out of IBM anyway.
If anything, this only benefited me, because I got a pretty decent package (by IBM's "standards"). However, that still doesn't justify the unethical and unprofessional handling of the issue. They should have given notice to the employees at least a month in advance, not 2 hours before and then snatched the laptop away.
PS: Coming back to the above point, it probably makes sense why they did it that way. You see, if they had informed in advance about the upcoming layoffs, people would have quit their job anyway (even those who were not on the "list"), and then there wouldn't be too many people left to be laid off.
Comment 02/16/14: China RA happened at the end of Jan. STG 60% cut, SWG and GBS 10% cut. More PBC 3 dilivered in Jan. -China IBMer-
Comment 02/16/14: Making Retirements Less Secure
It is easy to see why companies are switching to lump-sum contributions: It saves them money. They get to keep until the end of the year the money they would have ordinarily put into workers' accounts every week or every two weeks. Businesses that choose this approach also get to keep the money that they would have contributed to the retirement accounts of workers who leave for other jobs or are unfortunate enough to be laid off before the end of the year.
But these gains come at the expense of working families that face an increasingly insecure retirement. Studies show that most Americans are not putting aside enough money for retirement, and these new 401(k) policies make it that much harder for them to do so.
Lump-sum payments expose workers to potentially greater financial risk, because retirement funds that would have been invested in stocks and bonds over the course of a year when companies matched contributions with every paycheck will, under these new policies, be invested all at once at the end of the year. If stocks are rising, as they have been in the last few years, that means the lump sum will be invested in the market when stocks are more expensive than if they were purchased throughout the year. -Anonymous-

Comment 02/16/14: The Myth of the Bell Curve
There is a long standing belief in business that people performance follows the Bell Curve (also called the Normal Distribution). This belief has been embedded in many business practices: performance appraisals, compensation models, and even how we get graded in school (Remember "grading by the curve?"). Research shows that this statistical model, while easy to understand, does not accurately reflect the way people perform. As a result, HR departments and business leaders inadvertently create agonizing problems with employee performance and happiness. -Anon-

Comment 02/16/14: Something to listen to after you've been RA'd because you didn't join the union: -Remove Rometty-
Comment 02/15/14: What happens when you swap out all your experienced personal with interns? Here is why Boeing 787 is grounded AGAIN in 2014.
"HubG Precisely. But we should not be too soft on Boeing: It was the bean counters at Boeing that heard about the general malicious rumour that ' you can get rid of your top employees, to whom you pay " too much ", and let your other employees " rise to the occasion " - do their jobs for less pay."
It was the mentally challenged bean counters who offered early retirement packages, and got rid of the people who knew how to do the job. And so the time came that production at Boeing ground to a halt! The guys that knew the proper work-arounds to assembly problems had gone. Obviously, the same false propaganda was applied to the designing and engineering personnel. These basic faults should have never been there in the first place. It puts Boeing at the level of technically challenged chinese car makers." -Boeing-

Comment 02/15/14: All clues indicates RA in STG China will be on next week, some teams required all regular employees in office on Tuesday. It's not easy to fire an employee in China, labor law requires some specified procedures and conditions to relieve the contract; minimum severance package is also better than US and India. If IBM makes me unhappy on the severance, I would unionize other RAed and charge a lawsuit. -ChineseLabor-
Comment 02/15/14: To the Alliance: I use this site for info and I appreciate the service you provide, but nearly every other IBMer I talk to has no idea what the Alliance is. Your article cited below says you have 300 dues-paying members with all respect, that's not going to cut it. There are more people than that in the RTP cafeteria on a busy lunch day. Where is your message? Where is your advertising? Are you on any TV spots, print media,social media...? What exactly is the plan for growing the membership? I can reach a handful of people, but if the masses have not heard of the Alliance, shouldn't there be some other action? -concerned_but_frustrated-
Alliance reply: Thanks for your comments. There is no way we can afford advertising or TV spots. Do you know how much that costs?
With more members we certainly could afford it and you're right 300 members doesn't cut it. Have you joined?
We find it hard to believe employees in RTP don't know about the Alliance. We have been in every newspaper and on every TV news show quite a bit the past 3 years in the RTP area. We are on facebook (link on main page) and twitter. We have sent mass emails to employees in RTP .
We were even in RTP 2 years ago trying to get people to a job cuts informational picket line in front of the site to no avail, after much publicity in the local news, in emails and on the Alliance web site. It always seems people start paying attention just before another round of mass firings.
But the real organizing still has to be done by supporters like you reaching out to their co-workers and pointing them to the Alliance web site which has tons of info on what we are about. The message is simple: if you want better working conditions and respect in the IBM workplace, help build the Alliance so we can get IBM to the negotiating table.

Comment 02/15/14: Here is how the Alliance is organizing. The UAW at VW organized the traditional way, get a majority of cards signed then petition the government for an election. In other situations where the company is not neutral, a full scale war is waged on the workers by the company. Even with majority support the union sometimes loses because of those attacks. The workers only become union members after a successful vote. Then they negotiate for a contract. The Alliance on the other hand, knowing the terrain we are in, has employees join the union now, before a vote. It is possible that if enough IBMers at a given site or business unit joined the Alliance as full members then the government could recognize the union (with proof) and we start contract negotiations. -Alliance-
Comment 02/15/14: Your 60-hour work week is not a badge of honour. It is a problem.
There is a sense of pride over being able to state that we worked an exorbitant amount of hours this week, last week, or last month. I know because I've done it in the past, and probably still do it *sigh*. After all, saying you worked a 60 hour week is indirectly telling the listener how busy your design firm is; how successful your product is; how important you are to your employer. It's essentially a humblebrag.
But as you dig into the 60-hour work week, you realize it is a problem. Not just for the obvious reasons either, like work/lifebalance, burnout, how unhealthy it is, errors that come with being tired and so forth. -anonymous-
Comment 02/15/14: @ -Puzzled- Shhhhhhhhh, That's a secret! Customers don't know there is actually hardware behind the cloud. "Smarter Planet" depends on dumber customers. -Anon-
Comment 02/15/14: -orgethics-: Nothing would make me happier than to see IBM suffer a crushing blow to their business; but that's not what I would really recommend. That said, there have been all manner of prophetic crystal ball predictions about IBM's demise, since before 1994 when Lou Gerstner (a non-IBMer) took over. IBM was a lumbering staggering behemoth that had it's head handed to the BoD when the stock went to $40/ share. IBM survived. It wasn't a survival that the IBMers championed.....especially when the workers were sacrificed for "the good of the company's survival"....still, they kept going. There have been many "Cringleys" and "Cramers" that have said IBM is doomed...yet they keep firing people and keep surviving. Do I approve? Absolutely NOT! I think that the IBM workers (non-management) themselves must join this union in droves and mount a great Bull for a hell of a ride toward a contract AND a successful company. Why not? Everything else has been thrown at them in the past 25 years, to discourage their very employment. It's time for the workers to take a crack at what really is the "right" change to make: Unionize. Do it now. Join en masse. Pay some dues. Talk to your friends and co-workers in IBM and decide to step up to the plate. Remember; "it ain't over till it's over"... Let's do this thing. -BlueEyedBlind-
Comment 02/15/14: IBM is coming across more and more everyday as a company which has bastardized the concept of ethical behavior and management. Truth is it will never sustain in the long run. IBM is doomed. Wall street is going to get a rude shock soon. I pity the average IBM investor who is being taken for a ride. It will soon be over and will be very painful for hundreds of thousands if employees and maby clients. Clients who are still trying to sign deals with IBM better watch their backsides b4 its too late. -orgethics-
Comment 02/15/14: "But remember, there is much we can do even without a contract."
Can you please be more specific? Are there any *specific* actions have been made by Alliance so far beyond outlining its mission? I can not get out of an impression the only thing Alliance does so far is that it brings some unhappy people together to whine about their hard lot at IBM. -Band 8 employee-
Alliance reply: Well there certainly seems to be a lot interest. And what you call whining we see as employee's justifiable concerns about the health of the company and their jobs.We had over 200,000 visits to this site in January alone.
The Alliance has been outspoken and active since 2000 when members testified to congress on the takeaways in our pension. That resulted in tens of thousands of employees getting choice in pension.
We have held rallies and informational pickets at IBM sites around issues such as job cuts and offshoring of jobs.
Attended IBM stockholder meetings and raised issues important to employees and retires.
Massive amounts of outreach to the media on what is going on inside IBM.
We contact political leaders at all levels on issues that impact IBM employees and retirees.
Help IBM employees on a number of issues from job loss, TAA benefits, discrimination and health and safety issues.
Work with international IBM unions on common issues, projects and actions.
Expose the "under the radar" job cuts and resource actions.
Fight against pay cuts, benefit cuts and job cuts.
Work with IBM employees at various sites to improve conditions. And much more.
But it is key that we have members and supporters actively helping the organization. IBM understands numbers. We have to show the executives ours. We need to push back harder.

Comment 02/15/14: With all the RAs happening in India, which geography is the next "wholy grail"? There is a lot of talk about Africa, is that where this is headed? Seems like China is spared in these RAs, unless they are not allowed to post by other reasons.... -Nat Geo-
Comment 02/15/14: Tom wrote: "Does the Alliance have any comment on the decisive defeat of union representation at the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee?" Well, I guess anything less than a majority vote is a defeat, but "decisive" seems a little strong. 47% of the VW workers voted to unionize, despite unprecedented government interference. quotes the UAW president:
"We're outraged at the outside interference in this election," King said. "Never before in this country have we had a U.S. senator, a governor, and a leader of the Legislature threaten the company with no incentives (for a plant expansion) and threaten workers with a loss of product. It's outrageous."
Frankly, I thought that the establishment of a worker's council, as VW has in their factories in every country except the U.S. and China, was the company's best hope to turn around the quality issues that keep Volkswagen from being successful in the U.S.
-An Alliance member-
Comment 02/15/14: I've recently become a dues paying member of the alliance and am wondering ... how close are we to getting a union vote in the US? How many members are required to get a vote. So sorry I didn't join years ago. -Curious-
Alliance reply: First of all thank you for joining the Alliance and thanks to the 20 new members in January and February.
We are a very long way off. We have just over 320 members and associate members, and over 5000 supporters. To petition the government for a vote under the US department of labor process we must show we have a majority of current employees interested in a union at IBM. That is done by joining the Alliance in any of our three catagories. Then it depends on what division/business unit or site has the most signups. IBM will of course fight this by all means.
The Alliance has been organizing in a non-traditional manner and we are in it for the long haul. While a contract is the goal there is a lot of advocacy work that needs to be done now. See earlier comments and the link organizing for the long haul.
The Alliance also is the only worker organization in IBM that is getting the word out on job cuts, changes in policy etc. Without the Alliance, IBM employees would only get news and information from the company.
So to all, please join us and help make the Alliance stronger. Put aside your anti-union views and look at us as an employee association that wants to bring respect and dignity back into the IBM workplace.

Comment 02/15/14: Re: SoftLayer as a replacement for X86... The "cloud" doesn't run on thin air, it runs on servers. The servers have to come from SOMEWHERE. So is IBM going to buy them from some other corporation?? -Puzzled-
Comment 02/15/14: For those that are new in IBM, the PBC system is a *ranking system* and not a *rating system*. IOW somebody has to be on top and someone has to be on the bottom even if you all walk on water. It's like trying to win at the rigged games at a carnival midway. The only time you will win is if the carnival barker let's you win. -#23_Grease-
Comment 02/15/14: While I appreciate the principles and effort of Alliance@IBM, I'm not understanding how a US-based union could make much of a difference with a global business like IBM, with its access to a global labor pool. For argument's sake, let's say all US IBM employees joined Alliance@IBM and attempted to negotiate a contract. Isn't IBM's logical and legal move to simply hire those willing to work for less outside the US as much as possible, and perpetually exercise its "at-will" rights in the US to weed out union-leaning types and hire less principled US employees? In that context, isn't the Alliance@IBM effort a bit like trying to heat or air-condition the outdoors with a window unit? It seems to me that corporations now hold too many of the cards, have too much influence on gaming the playing field, and apathy in the US workforce amplifies all that. I'm not trying to downplay the principle or effort, but I'd like to hear more about how Alliance@IBM could possibly overcome the momentum of the forces/factors I'm referring to. I get the feeling that only far more significant social/political/economic changes on the scale of the entire world could make a difference with respect to entities - corporations - that operate on the scale of the entire world. -the-900-pound-gorilla-
Alliance reply: You raise some very good points. The Alliance and other US unions have certainly been grappling with those questions. The Alliance has recognized this and is why we have been a part of a worldwide IBM labor movement for many years. The Alliance will be meeting with its international counterparts soon and I expect a policy/ideas article will be in the works. But remember, there is much we can do even without a contract.
Comment 02/15/14: NoStrategy: Oh, but IBM does have a strategy: promote those who memorize and parrot the most business buzzwords and slogans, and *distract* those who actually do the work *from* that work with gobs of non-technical education, certification, and meaningless evaluation. That's how you arrive in a place where you have to sell off difficult aspects of the tech business like hardware and focus more on the hand-waving side of the tech game. And it's hardly new. I watched it roll out over nearly 3 decades. -strategy-hound-
Comment 02/15/14: Does the Alliance have any comment on the decisive defeat of union representation at the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee? The defeat is a stunning humiliation for the U.A.W. -Tom Rausch Former IBM Man Number 5917272; Left IBM In Summer 1993-
Alliance reply: Yes, we keep organizing. There are no shortage of issues and concerns that affect IBM workers. We understand how difficult it is to get a traditional union certified in the US. There were even politicians that waded in against the VW/UAW union. All kinds of opposition is to be expected when workers want a voice and some control in their workplace, including massive anti-union propoganda. The Alliance continues to build support in IBM. See this article:

Comment 02/15/14: from the India folks: This sudden and completely unexpected move by IBM has created ripples across the IT industry, as such behavior by the management is only expected by a B-grade company, having no morals or ethical responsibility towards it's employees. Being an ex-IBMer, I still cannot relate and accept this situation. I am amazed at how complacent people get in their jobs. The India plant has only been around since the turn of the century and they thought they had it made. I saw one post from an Indian employee on here saying how much more talented and skilled they were than their US counter emps. Well, the skill sets have leveled out now, huh? IBM just axed 2000 in India. not-a-star hit it spot on. Listen to what he said. Remember the drive that got you here because that is the drive you will need for sitting back in your chair soaking up the temporary employee benefits. Do something to make others proud. Stand up for yourselves and Unionize. You have already proven to management you are not worth fighting for, thus the layoffs. Make them put their focus on making more money and not cutting costs by standing up and being brave. I left IBM for a better job, but I will be the first to admit, there are not a lot of "better jobs" out there. The corporation I work for has the same push on its employees, long hours, 24x7 availability expectations, carry a cell phone for the company, good pay, skimpy benefits, and a non caring jerk for a manager. No greener grass on the other side. -not-a-star 2-
Comment 02/15/14: Did anyone think that all of this make the employees unhappy is a long term strategy? Tim Ringo did mention that the long term strategy for IBM is to reduce head count by a 66% - particularly in high cost areas US/Europe etc. By creating mass panic and unhappiness, they would have made many people to leave on their own without having to pay severance. According to Tim, IBM wants to reduce employee related expenses and wants to automate or contract its way out of employee obligations and expenses. However, this is short sighted of US corporations. As people are under employed or unemployed.. they lack the buying power to purchase goods or services which, in the end will comeback to affect US corporations - as it is already. For example, if less people are coming to the malls or shops, IBM will sell less Informix based retail equipment to retailers etc. Of course, the idiots in IBM management and Wall Street do not think deeply. They rule by Cognos reports and metrics in an ivory tower. -Think Deep-
Comment 02/15/14: "... just how much it would cost employees if every employer tried to do what AOL did. The answer? Close to $50,000 in today's dollars by the time they retired ..."
-ashamed to have worked for IBM-
Comment 02/15/14: people r much afraid to join ibm or work in ibm. already started looking outside.. -@ibmer-
Comment 02/15/14: IBM - people say human resource makes a company and human resource sinks a company. The so called IBM leaders have failed every workers hard work and every policy. My only question to these so called executives and think tanks is what were they doing when Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, Oracle were laying their foundations. What were they doing when Google, Amazon and others were busy in changing the face of technology.....probably making plans to cheat employees of their money and office politics to get their ass l*ckers a promotion. IBM clients need to know that they cannot get good services til their suppliers are good. What can you expect from a supplier who does not care about their own employes, how can they take care of your needs? -None-
Comment 02/15/14: Its been confirmed about SWG in IBM india having resorted to RA's. Not published in news articles yet. Resource names have been finalized, and will be communicated to SWG employees next week. -Sam-
Comment 02/14/14: IBM management reminds me of inept British generals in WW-I. They had no vision or strategy only one tactic - send the men over the trench again and again and again as they were ripped to shreds by German machine guns. IBM management today, more than ever, needs men/women of great character and strength - like TJ Watson. Current managment is a dud and Ginni will be a failure. -IBM-
Comment 02/14/14: Verbally told of PBC 2 for 2013 despite good performance and significant overtime, though it's not in writing yet. I was told I hadn't done any major redesign of my program, but I've regularly said that it doesn't need any and the people in it agree. I used to get regular PBC1s and never less than 2+ or old 2, so really disappointed. And I found out that there's no 2013 GDP by accident since I hadn't had time to watch Ginni's 30-minute video in which (I now discover) she obliquely mentions PBC1s will get GDP and so we have to infer nobody else will. Yet profit last year was still over $25b and we found money to buy back more crazy numbers of shares to keep the price up for the execs' share options. It's not good, is it? -Can't Say UK-
Comment 02/14/14: In the 12 years I was at IBM, the company changed drastically. It started with little things (no more free lunches, etc) and eventually ended with major changes ( 401K), which mostly affected us blue collar workers. The morale after the summer 2013 layoffs was infectious and I honestly hated going to work. I combated this by just working from home, but in the end I just saw too many people who didn't care anymore. A lot of people had and still have the "I'm waiting for my [severance] package" mentality, which I will admit, I had for some time as well. I also saw many friends who were laid off, struggle to find jobs and that really bothered me. I spent the better part of six months studying and applying for jobs outside of IBM. I frequently encountered negative comments and stereotypes about IBMers from recruiters, HR personnel, and other engineers. Unfortunately, regardless of your skill set there is a general pessimism towards IBMers. I think the longer your tenure at any company, the more skepticism people will have towards your skill set. Looking back I think I thought the severance package was worth waiting for mainly because I had started to believe what some managers at IBM had instilled in me: fear and self-doubt. Many times when I complained about pay, bonus money, or ratings, I got the good old "you should be happy you have a job". The last one my manager gave me was,"IBM offers a lot of flexibility for you and your family". It is not IBM's responsibility to keep you skilled, but it?s usually good question to ask yourself: can this job/company help me grow professionally? I feel pretty blessed that I left and I think it was a smart move emotionally and professionally. I have encouraged friends to leave as well, but for some that just seems impossible. I don't think you can right the ship, there are just too many messed up things going on there. I hope the best for all IBMers and hope that I am wrong about IBM. Good Luck IBMers. -goodluck and goodbye-
Comment 02/14/14: My advise.....I was RA'd last year and I felt bad at that time, but now I am so glad IBM gave me that push in the back. For a long time I contemplated of leaving, but that RA was the push I needed. Now, I earn MUCH more and I do a job I really like. And I took the severance as a nice gift. I was not unemployed for a single day and I had multiple job offers and interviews almost every day. Many RA'd people with good skills don't have to may be thankful later on that IBM gave you that push in the back to find a better life. That's how I see it. A lot of folks have to focus on a life outside of IBM....don't assume it is your destiny to stick around in IBM until you retire. If you are still in IBM, it is critical to do projects and sharpen skills that you really need in your interviews. So, cut down on anything Microsoft Office related and design work, or even programming. Also, get in the faces of clients as much as possible and show what you can do. Remember, it is NOT important what IBM'ers think of you, as it really does NOT matter, but make sure you look good to clients and business partners you work with. -Fairness101-
Comment 02/14/14: IBM USA is NOT unionized. Given that, here is how IBM USA employees are viewed by IBM Executive Management: Inept, helpless, weak, afraid. Thus, treat them as we wish, ruin their lives, they can't fight back. And they are right. Unless current IBMers step up and unionize, you will get what is certainly coming. And that makes you exactly what they think you are. -Ex IBMer-
Comment 02/14/14: @Oliverro - You are wrong my friend.
1. Stockholders and EPS are now IBM's only responsibility and focus.
2."...being CEO means...IBM economic responsibility for workforce..." You got to be kidding, that horse left the barn a long time ago.
3.IBM no longer has more than 400K employees. Since they sold GPS Customer Service group to Synnex (transition completed), 35,000 employees are now off IBM's books. -SlimPickins-

Comment 02/14/14: I was subject to the same grade-A gung-ho bullsi*t by my manager. He was a kiss-as* SCRUM master or so - some agile crap. He may have had some good ganga because what he and IBM practised (underhanded sneaky nonsense) were completely different from what they preached. He pushed me to do more work to get a higher PBC all the while knowing 2-3 months ahead that he and the 2nd line manager was planning to RA me. IBM management=pure scumb*gs.
-oliverro- said: We had a nice video message from Steve Mills, shared by our actual Tivoli GM Deepak: Deepak really mentions that video as very important and great ... video shows management style. It would be important to be an exemplary leader for the whole team, being open & passionate for the team. Not sure what kinds of drugs those guys take ... but it must be good stuff. I can not imagine that they believe what they talk since what we currently see happening around the world has NOTHING to do with good management style. Unbelievable!
Comment 02/14/14: Israeli media outlets are reporting that IBM is laying off product developers at its Diligent operation but leaving support staff roles untouched. According to Israeli biz news site Calcalist, Diligent, XIV, and Storwize "all three Israeli companies acquired by Big Blue" were housed by the firm in the R&D division of its Storage Technologies Group in Haifa, Israel. Daily paper Haaretz has a similar Diligent story, writing: "IBM plans to shut down its Diligent product line and is expected to lay off its small workforce in Israel, which has been engaged in product development and upgrading." -Anon-
Comment 02/14/14: Having worked for IBM in India, I have tons of internal material which highlights the fraud going on within IBM in India. BCG violations are going viral in that country. The legal department team of IBM India outsources work to their relatives, the top management team scams millions to line their own pockets, the talent hired is so below par it is a joke - the list goes on. Of course the "ivory tower" in Armonk is aware, as it was escalated to them. As a result, the India MD Shanker Annaswamy was recently offloaded for another as ?competent? manager. The entire organization lacks the ethics required to be a a sustainable business model. Maybe that will be Palmisano & Rometti's legacy -Indian-
Comment 02/14/14: So I had a pbc 1, but it came at a lot of cost, worked 70-80 hrs weeks for many months, not by choice but i got assigned to multiple project because there were no people left to work on them. I did not even spent xmas with my 2 year old because i was working all the time. i am seriously considering looking out for a new job but it makes me wonder if other companies could be better... How could they?... Corporate greed is not isolated to ibm, don't all companies exploit their employees to the max? I am hopeful there is a better place. -FrustratedAndExhausted-
Comment 02/14/14: At least I don't feel like I'm walking around with a target on my back anymore. IBM took it at my exit interview. -RA'd in July-
Comment 02/14/14: Reason for the X86 sale is not what it appeared to be. IBM Sees SoftLayer as x86 Server Replacement
IBM Corp. isn't necessarily getting out of the server business with the sale of its x86 server unit to Lenovo. It sees its SoftLayer hosted infrastructure services as a replacement for the product and a point of entry for partners to get into cloud computing services.
Comment 02/14/14: Generous 401k plans used to be a way to attract employees to a company (back when job seekers actually had quality offers from multiple companies). ibm is not interested in hiring anyone anymore (i.e., Project Apollo, Phoenix, Mercury, etc.). Why do you think they're cannibalizing the 401k program? Eventually they will take away the matching portion too. If you don't join the union and make your voices heard, they will just keep taking away your benefits until there is nothing left. -Exodus2002-
Comment 02/14/14: The best manager I ever had at IBM was full of creative ideas and practical solutions. But while he always had his opinion, he WANTED his staff to challenge him, rip his ideas to pieces and help build a better plan. Everyone, whatever level, was listened to equally. He created a awesome, fun environment. Unfortunately he managed up the same way he managed down, and he equally challenged his management and championed his employees. This did not sit well with the IBM senior management who simply want to issue orders, not be part of a conversation. Ultimately he left in frustration, even though IBM didn't want him to (probably because customers loved him, due to his refusal to up-sell anything until the stuff they'd already paid for was working as the sales guy promised). Every single communication I see from senior management is about numbers or vague high-level abstract ideas with nothing tangible attached to them. IBM is sinking because of the obsession with saving a penny now, even if it means giving up a dollar down the road. -On the way out-
Comment 02/14/14: TechWire asked: "Can someone enlighten me as to what IBM's new strategy really is?"
It appears IBM does not have a strategy, or at least it's in shambles. Here is the proof: IBM announces on a Friday that they are selling the semiconductor arm of their business and then 3 days later, announce that they are a not selling it. A decision like that is a long term strategy and for IBM to flip like this proves they don't have one. IBM has dug its own grave by the tunnel vision of higher EPS and Road-Kill 2015. The moral of IBM's employees, their life blood, is at an all-time low. IBM?s chickens have come home to roost and the upper level execs are thrashing. -NoStrategy-

Comment 02/14/14: It's worth Googling for "IBM values" and "IBM values at work" -- I took a moment to sit down and read these, very seriously. From my interpretation, I'd say the corporation is meeting at best 50% of these, mostly on the "innovation" side -- and, sadly, the innovations seem to be "creative tax dodges, ruthless cost optimization, and workforce reshuffling." Dedication to Every Client and Trust/Responsibility/Relationships are blatantly lacking, to the point where I think investors could call senior leadership on the carpet. These sorts of airy-fluffy intangibles might not mean much compared to"earnings per share," but, in my experience, they ARE ultimately linked to success or failure. -SimpleMath-
Comment 02/14/14: Report in "The Hindu"
Comment 02/14/14: IBM and Jaiprakash Associate consortium group has proposed a $4 billion semiconductor plant near New Delhi, India. -STGsMixedMessage-

Comment 02/14/14: @Lastdino1 - you are in la-la land or in a group where you can easily out perform people. There is not one metric that I am beaten on in my team but it is not my turn this year due to the skew. That doesn't exist of course. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/14/14: How many of you woke up this morning and planned how you were going to deprive your families of things they desperately need? By not joining, organizing and getting union representation that's exactly what you are doing. Leaving money, benefits and job security on the table. -Exodus2007-
Comment 02/14/14: We had a nice video message from Steve Mills, shared by our actual Tivoli GM Deepak: Deepak really mentions that video as very important and great ... video shows management style. It would be important to be an exemplary leader for the whole team, being open & passionate for the team. Not sure what kinds of drugs those guys take ... but it must be good stuff. I can not imagine that they believe what they talk since what we currently see happening around the world has NOTHING to do with good management style. Unbelievable! -oliverro-
Comment 02/14/14: I did a search on LinkedIn this am and guess who had the most postings? .........yup, IBM. A ton of Coop and Intern positions. Did you also know that there is a program office that is chartered with finding kids of executives with those internships? It's true. Openly posting for internships and coops, the would likely lead to hiring a new hire after letting go of experienced workers. Search in New York under "Transformation" Project management, etc. and you will see. -Bluewho?-
Comment 02/14/14: IBM India Rational Labs on the firing line coming Monday -blindIBM-
Comment 02/14/14: In my expereience in ibm for 4 years, as per my knowledge, pbc is the worst tool. How can a manager identify the person's performance? In ibm India almost 99 percent of manegers do not know what they are doing. How they judge others..all managers do not follow any process or guidelines. They are doing what they think is right. They've all made a mockery of BCG and PBC. -unknown from india-
Comment 02/14/14: 401(k) Squeeze: Companies Delay Matching Funds Employers are squeezing their workers? retirement savings, holding back on both the amount and the timing of 401(k) matching funds and dragging out vesting schedules. Taken together, these measures are making it more difficult to save for old age. -Anon-

Comment 02/14/14: I shake my head at some of the arrogance here per 'all the real 3s are already gone and now they're picking on us superstars' Come down off your thrones, you stars getting hit now are no more special than many who have lost their jobs throughout the years. Wake up. IBM Management doesn't care for alleged superstars either. Join the Union. -Not a star-
Comment 02/14/14: For all beating on the PBC system it won't make much difference. I used to write my PBC's to a one standard and when it sold well to my mgr I would use the same one year after year. Just change some of the targets. Because your mgr doesn't look at your last PBC this system worked great. Also I would call 4 performance meetings with my mgr and tell him how good I was doing. It's all in how you market yourself and not your actual metrics.It's the game of work and once you know how to play you can win. It all depends on what your goals are. -Lastdino1-
Comment 02/14/14: I am beginning to feel and sadly at that that the PBC 3"distracted" folks *could* get a reduced severance. IBM better not think "distracted" was not doing your job based on performance! Then IBM can construe the RA in two tiers: RA package for PBC 2 and above and a separate one for PBC 3. -theybetternot-
Comment 02/14/14: IBM management seriously lack the meaning of the term good will. The enemies they create in mistreated employees will prove fatal. They basically created an army of people bad-mouthing IBM and its products at companies and conferences. Idiots Become Managers. -Foo-
Comment 02/14/14: IBM insiders selling. -InsiderSelling-

Comment 02/14/14: Can some one enlighten me as to what IBM's new strategy really is? Will it be successful? Just curious. Also was the slaughter of the innocents style massacre of its employees necessary or is it attributed more to the misguided EPS chase to quell the Wall Street masters? I remember Jim Cramer saying that IBM management "has lost control of the business." Any comments from someone in the know? Thanks. -TechWire-
Alliance reply: While trying to understand "what IBM's strategy really is" could be a worthy quest; an alternative could be to understand what the IBM workers strategy can be, to organize and form a union of IBM workers that work toward achieving a collectively bargained agreement with IBM Management. It is achievable. This is what Alliance@IBM has been trying to do for nearly 15 years. The continued 'slaughter ' of IBM workers' jobs is a constant reminder that IBM workers need to seek the enlightenment of a concerted effort to protect themselves from the kind of abuse that IBM continues to dish out, year after year, ALL over the world. IBM IS unionized in some countries, and those locations have issues that they deal with, too. However, they have an organization that can mount a concerted effort to resist IBM and its constant firing of IBM workers and the ruination of their lives, in the process.

Comment 02/14/14: @ -Accel-Career-Dev-Victim- While I understand your frustration, I don't agree with your comments. We did not "gleefully" take your jobs or celebrated while your folks were being laid off. Even though we do not know many of you personally, it was still hurting us when they were asking you to leave last year. We did not ask your senior leaders to snatch your jobs and give them to us. If you do want to fight, pick the right enemy. It's a sick game they have set up, pitting one country against other, to create a system of mutual hatred and distrust, and it is disappointing to note people such as yourself, giving them what they want. -Indian ex-IBMer-
Comment 02/14/14: I was with IBM STG till 2012. Had to quit. Reason ??? It's obvious.... PBC. I was rated 3 in 2011 for not getting along well with my manager and being more of a challenge to him. I was much more skilled technically and otherwise than him. However, he was skilled in making his top management happy at the cost of people like me (poor employees). I was band 8 and an Architect still struggled to prove my point. Even after going through IBM's so called grievenace shell "The Open Door". All nonsense. I was told your manager has assessed you correctly. The next year I worked for another group and rated PBC 1 (very rare a gentlemen & honest manager). I got an offer with 50% more salary. I never thought my market value is such. In my exit interview with HR I was told PBC is the reason. She said...."But, you are rated 1". I said, check my last year's PBC. And as most of the people mentioned here, "distraction" word was there as usual. -Glad-I-Left_STG_2Yrs_back-
Comment 02/14/14: I would like to mention a point here which does not seem to be in the heads of our executives any more: Although shareholders are important, I doubt that they are the only one responsibility here! Being a CEO of a company like IBM also means to have an economic responsibility for the workforce. Having more than 400k employees means to be responsible for 400k families! To give people a place where they are proud to work and feel honored for their work. WHERE THE HELL IS THIS RESPONSIBILITY? -oliverro-
Comment 02/13/14: -FormerIBM- Please be specific about the posts you are complaining about. -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/13/14: @FormerIBM Many of these comments are not racist or sexist at all. The Alliance does a good job in filtering those comments out. It is not sexist to criticize the decisions and poor leadership of IBM's CEO. The India RA (and soon to come US RA) is another example of IBM continuing to exploit and take advantage of its employees worldwide, which I'm surprised does not disgust you. If you really believe what you say you believe, what better way to protest these actions than by joining the Alliance? -anon-
Comment 02/13/14: <slaps self in the forehead> OMG! Had I only not wasted so much time creating PBC's, documenting accomplishments, sitting through assessments that had little to do with what I documented, becoming certified in conduct guidelines that executives trample in spirit if not letter, updating skills databases that would never be consulted, becoming certified in open source guidelines that I'd never be allowed to exercise, learning about patent processes that I'd rarely have time to pursue, learning about agile processes that were really primarily waterfall processes merely called agile to sound good, reading DOM's, and seemingly endless other tasks not burdening those competing with IBM, I JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN SO FRIGGIN' *DISTRACTED* AND THUS GOTTEN A 2 INSTEAD OF A 3! -for-the-love-of-sudden-enlightenment-
Comment 02/13/14: I wanted to respond to a few replies to my comment of how IBM on one's resume is a negative and not a positive. If you were/are in a high profile position, a fellow or other highly skilled marketable employee, then of course you will have an easier time obtaining employment and getting much better pay. However, what about the vast majority of you NOT in management or in a lower Band level? That is what I meant. IBM's name on a resume *can* carry some weight, it depends on your skills and expertise. Also, in NY, unemployment benefits as of 1/1/14 will NOT be given until you have exhausted your severance pay FIRST. It is calculated on a weekly basis based on the check you receive. Someone else here provided the link, but there is no point in waiting for a package; get out now before it is really too late. I really do sincerely wish you all the best. I'd not wish this abuse to even my worst enemy. -*Glad_to_be_Gone_too*-
Comment 02/13/14: The racist and sexist diatribes on this board - against the chairwoman, against Indians - ought not to be tolerated. It's no less disgusting that IBM's perverse policies. -FormerIBM-
Comment 02/13/14: Jeff Johnson, what the IBM executives are thinking? who the heck knows!? (I'm convinced they are not human) but their strategy is so myopic and fundamentally faulty wreckless and is simply "pump and dump": cut all costs, use those cuts to incestuously buyback stock and artificially manipulate the EPS, lavishly reward themselves, and hope Wall St. buys it completely with decreasing revenues the norm. IBM's main business is to fool investors to increase EPS. Period. Customers and employees (i.e. resources) don't matter or are in the equation anymore. LIFE@IBM IS NOT GOOD and will not get any better looking into that cloudy crystal ball. -trexibmer-
Comment 02/13/14: -Corporate Greed- It makes no difference if your PBC results are 4000 words or 2 sentences, it is a total waste of time. Your PBC rating was decided many months before you documented your results. I was a manager for awhile in the 1990's and I would tell my employees not to waste a lot of time writing and documenting results in PBC. It is all a joke to make the employee feel like they have some control over their destiny ! -longtimebeemer-
Comment 02/13/14: -Accel-Career-Dev-Victim- I think you should have more of a beef with IBM executive management, and not the Indian IBM workers. Do you feel the same about IBM Chinese workers too? An IBM worker is an IBM worker no matter what nationality. It is INTERNATIONAL business machines still..but then again, for how long? -IBMGlobalResource-
Comment 02/13/14: Count me in...I was told I was "distracted" because of a family illness that went on for 9 months! I didn't do enough as others in my band. -distracted-
Comment 02/13/14: PBC 3 without the word "distracted" here. I truly felt my manager and his manager were forced into handing out the 3's, despite nobody left actually being a 3. They wrote absolutely nothing negative on my PBC 3 other than the 3 itself. I am one of the last US technical resources left on my project, so this is likely what made me a candidate for the 3. What angers me is why not lay me off? Why insult me with a 3 that I do not deserve? Is it because IBM is trying to avoid giving me a severance package? I am very suspicious now. I think this is another new GAME (like the 401K match delay) intended to save money (severance) and screw the employees. The only thing IBM is good at anymore is saving money and financially engineering it into earnings. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/13/14: -Corporate Greed !!- 4000 words? PBC wise in Research one has to summarize a years worth of one's accomplishments onto a single PPT slide that includes a picture of you so management know's who they are talking about. Only after you get your # and feedback in early January can you actually fill in boiler plate and submit via the on-line process. -anonymous-
Comment 02/13/14: Taking a Poll - How many folks who got PBC 3's had the word"distracted" in their reasoning speech? I did! It makes me laugh to think the "Brain Trust",actually had to script this stuff. Show of hands? -FUBAR-
Comment 02/13/14: Interesting reading about how a union actually can benefit a company. And it makes me wonder if it could be used as an argument for a union in IBM -Anon-
Alliance reply: It certainly could be used. And it has already been established as a similar model in Unions and works councils in IBM locations in Europe and Japan, to name a few. That's why Alliance@IBM has joined as a member of the IBM Global Union Alliance (IBM union links page).

Comment 02/13/14: Many decades ago Indians broke the yoke of medieval feudalism only to be entrapped by the lure of riches by global organizations over the past two decades. We reap what we sow. -Who-was-trained-not-to-spit-in-the-fan-
Comment 02/13/14: Dear Indian "IBMers" (soon to be ex-), I am thinking of starting a campaign against IBM's atrocities, perhaps by getting a few politicians and media people involved. But of course, one individual doing it won't carry any weight and only create negative publicity for the "revolters". (You know how these things work in India.) Are you willing to lend me your support? If a substantial amount of willingness to support flows in, I will reply here again with more details on how we can organize -Anonymous from India-
Alliance reply: There is an organization in India that is affiliated with the IBM Global Union alliance. It is UNITES Professionals and the email is We encourage all IBM India workers to contact them.

Comment 02/13/14: IBM continues to block Alliance email alerts to internal addresses. To ensure that you get the alerts please join the Alliance in any of our 3 levels of membership. OR -Alliance-

Comment 02/13/14: Sorry, but after IBM outsourced and India gleefully took the jobs that were being better done in the U.S. I have little empathy for those folks. Solidarity cuts both ways, and they saw what they were doing in Bangalore. I worked for Big Blowhard for 20 years as a tech editor until they decided to use those pos's as roosting places for appeasing relocated engineering spouses through the clandestine "Accelerated Career Development Program" for women and minorities. Like others in the field I was "rationalized" by "mutual agreement" resignation in the 80's, one week short of 20 years when I would have gained more clout legally. Never since the late 1800's has collective bargaining been more crucial than now. But empathy with India just doesn't come easy. Chickens are still chickens when they're roosting.
Fight the good fight, but bear in mind the long-term payoff when you pick the bones of others for your own short-term gain, Bangalore!
Comment 02/13/14: -Movie Start- Exactly! I don't idolize USA sports stars like Alex Rodriguez and other millionaire cheats. And USA movie stars are largely people who are just like Ginni and IBM executives: self-centered, egoist, greedy, and no commitment to long term relationships. BUT...USA movie stars and sports stars do belong to a union. So they know the value of a contract and so should you! -anon-
Comment 02/13/14: Had my Yearly PBC appraisal at IBM East Fishkill NY and utilized all 4000 word characters to justify what I had accomplished.My manager review explained that I walked on water and still only received a 2 rating. Another coworker also received a two rating with only a paragraph input using a cut and paste approach, with protest told his manager that he could not sign it and he signed it for him. Also,heard that 50% of PBC reviews including management were only rated a two and we would not be receiving our usual Yearly variable pay. Interesting part is that upper management wasn't signed or closed out anyone's 2013 PBC and the link from PBC Blue pages is no longer available. No talk about this Year's 2014 objectives. Serious manpower and morale issues here and with the new pending layoff have never recovered from the last STG layoff. Our site also had a complete reorganization and our new micro manager never as much looks you in the eye and we haven't had a department status meeting since then. Told another employee that before his second line told him about the previous layoff he had already heard about it from a member of the Alliance! They just don't care,no longer in the PC business with the manufacture of computer micro chips up for grabs. Main interest now is for their corporate Share Holders.Using expendable employees as blood money and everything going down the drain!! -Corporate Greed !!-
Comment 02/13/14: Comment regarding Rometty trying to restore trust --- Ginni does not want trust since she does not care. She only wants to somehow ensure that the sales targets for China can be met. Nothing matters for that girl ... just plain dollars. She already sold her soul. Hope the Chinese government does not care either and buys somewhere else. -oliverro-
Comment 02/13/14: To Glad_to_be_Gone_too: Yes, there are numerous people in IBM having only skills in producing slideware and marketing crap, conducting conf. calls, managing e-mail and spreadsheets, and really no idea of what it takes to design and deliver an IT solution in the real world. Probably, the GBS folks working on projects have typically the best odds to find jobs, but most people in a strategy role, or a program management type of role in any will be hard to explain your skills, besides the already mentioned MS Office suite. -Fairness101-
Comment 02/13/14: "IBM's Rometty meeting with Chinese officials to "restore trust" - Meeting with Lenovo CEO to ask "Maybe you'd like to buy z also?" -Anon-
Comment 02/13/14: Regarding 3 month notice period in India- I think that is totally stupid. IBM (and every other company) is able to pull this because no employee has pulled them to court yet on this issue. Only, if we had labour union, in software industry, rules of this sort would have not existed. -FromHell-
Comment 02/13/14: Another interesting phenomenon that was applied in executing the RA in IBM India are mentioned below:
1> All departments / BUs have a head count freeze - this means that no department has the hiring approval from IBM USA to increase HC
2> Freeze on inter BU transfers - No one is allowed to move from one department to another
3> PBC ratings were a gimmick ( lots of Top contributors fired yesterday
I have been closely monitoring the situation and this RA action is affecting 400 - 500 IBMERS. -Current STG Staff_fearing RA-

Comment 02/13/14: Not as an employee, but as a stockholder (at least at present) I have to wonder what IBM executives are thinking? Continued job cuts can only indicate they are either making signficant efficiency improvements (trust me, this isn't happening) or they are conceding defeat in existing markets and wishfully expecting success in all new ventures). I'm guessing it's the latter so as a stock holder, I'm very concerned. -Jeff Johnson-
Alliance reply: There is a 3rd possibility: IBM realizes that their "offshoring" strategy since 1999 was never really designed for any long term stockholders other than their own executives. Their business model of destroying hardware and buying other small software and services companies to boost their revenue and stock price is showing the weak fibers of its fabric. IBM employees have been the "whipping boys & girls" at every turn in their quest. As a stock holder, you must have seen this in the past 15 years. Our mission has always been to get the US IBMers to see this and step yup to the plate and do something about it. It's the "same ole same old". The stock holders (not the executive ones) should also organize as a share voting block and demand that IBM cease the idiocy that it continues to practice. Just a suggestion.

Comment 02/13/14: For those of you in India. Please stop worshiping movie stars and cricket players. They will do nothing for you. Instead spend your time in labor movements that will yield better results such as a more equitable society and a decent living. Worship and idolize labor leaders of the past for their struggles and what they left for you - not idiot cricket players. This may sound harsh but it is the truth. -Movie Start-
Comment 02/13/14: Glad_to_be_Gone_too: Sobering words, all the more so for being consistent with what I experienced at IBM. Innovation *always* took a backseat to blind obedience to management and project management. *ALWAYS*. After a while it became kind of a game of chicken with reality, knowing that innovating would cast one in a bad light, thus making skill acquisition mostly a waste of time, and yet suspecting that there would have to be competitive marketplace consequences *somewhere* along the line. And so now there's this glut of RA'd IBMers looking for work who didn't have to be much more than sheep to succeed within IBM, and thus are wholly unprepared to compete with those who worked in truly innovation-driven environments. The IBM tech stigma/stain is painfully valid. At 52, I can only hope to catch a break and be able to personally demonstrate the skills that I acquired independent of the IBM internal games demanded by managers and project managers, which I mostly had to hide/bury while with IBM in order to not be labeled and penalized as "distracted" or otherwise not as much of a "team player". -sadly-concurring-
Comment 02/13/14: It was so bad to see fellow IBM'ers leave. They were crying all around in STG Bangalore. Its time the Government of India had stricter labor laws. Why doesn't IBM care to at least let employees serve a minimum notice instead of firing them in 2 hours. On the contrary when employee plans to leave, management mandates for a 3 month notice period. -Unknown-
Alliance reply: IBM is doing the same nasty treachery in India, that they have done in the US and the rest of the world. American IBM workers know this all too well. We are very sorry for what is happening there. If you have any specific information re: Indian labor laws, please send us a comment with that info.

Comment 02/13/14: Don't do your 2014 PBC! Seriously, the PBC doesn't matter. Your rating is already in and your RA date is probably determined already. Why waste your precious time? JOIN THE ALLIANCE instead of writing your PBC! Don't give IBM management and HR any satisfaction by doing it and obeying them. Your FLM is rated on PBCs done on time. Your manager and second line will then have to actually do their jobs.. FIGHT BACK DO NO PBC 2014 this way! -PBC'd-
Comment 02/13/14: IBM's Rometty meeting with Chinese officials to "restore trust"
Really? Trust: please define it IBM. She doesn't even meet with resources in NY USA in Armonk's backyard. If she is abroad now she should go to India on the way back to"restore lost trust" due to the recent RAs. But I doubt she will. -Anonymous-
Alliance reply: There is significant value in IBM's operations in China, and consider what amount of other (Global) US corporations have vested there, (many of IBM's customers) and the fact that China holds more than a $Trillion worth of US Treasury bonds that play a big role in the global market's "breathing apparatus".
IBM Execs know which side their bread is buttered on, despite what they seem to do. IBM does not care as much about India as they do China. No uprising is allowed by workers in China.

Comment 02/13/14: @Belle I agree that IBM does not pay employees competitive salaries. I was laid off in the 2013 spring/summer RA within STG in Austin, TX. I was a band 6, and weeks after being notified of my RA I landed another job at a Fortune 500 company that pays 20K more per year than IBM paid me. HR/recruiting at my new job insisted this was the market value pay for most jobs in my experience bracket. To any IBM'ers still left in STG in Austin, join the Alliance and get out while you can! IBM does not pay any of you the competitive salary you deserve! -Anon-
Comment 02/13/14: @-An Indian dreaming for a better India- Thank you for your perspective. What we see in the U.S. is referred to as the "Indian Mafia". Where your H1B Visa ones in management protect and promote others at the expense of non nationals. -Anon-
Comment 02/13/14: I am posting in this forum to let you know how things in India work. Will post more in the days to come. Corruption is a main issue in India. Someone rightly said "You bribe in foreign countries to get something illegal done but in India, you bribe to get what you are entitled to get done"

Indian Government and entrepreneurs + actors and cricketers have looted the country for decades. Not many jobs have been created in India and without the IT boom, many of us would have been doomed without jobs.

It companies in INdia suck everything out of you - the life and what is left of the dead body. Working hours are long. Some companies even keep track of physical access to compute working time. Salaries are very low, rewards low. The top management and yes-men reap all the rewards. We are entitled to approx 20 vacation days per year but are seldom allowed to use them. >90% of Indian managers are junk and are just not fit for the job. There is lot of back stabbing and mutual welfare is very rare.
A couple of years back, a new social movement promised much but we have not seen much yet - such deep rooted is corruption.

Just as executives get paid well, our actors and cricketers are paid mammoth amounts. These people endorse products as well and our product prices are much higher because of it. Inflation is in double digit. Sometimes it is distressing to know that half the population is dishonest - we got the leaders we deserved. Government employees do not do their jobs without bribes. We have poor teachers in educational institutes. Another debatable point is the existence of reservation based on caste in education as well as jobs. How many know all about India? -An Indian dreaming for a better India-

Comment 02/13/14: I heard EDA and ASIC RAs are on hold for time being. Not sure how long though. -deplysadIBMIndian-
Comment 02/13/14: Its just not STG, Resource Action is going in SWG as well.It started today in Bangalore.Highest RA ever.Almost 70% fired today mostly PBC 2's.Hope they all find jobs soon.Team morale is really down. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/13/14: re: "glad to be gone too". I was RA'ed last summer - employed for nearly 20 yrs in Global Administration @ the Somers, NY campus where I supported high caliber executives (band 4). Having Big Blue on a resume still holds weight (okay, a lot of weight). However, amazed at the salary difference - we were worth SO MUCH MORE! For those in GA that will be effected by the next round(s) --- brush yourself off and stand tall again. You will find employment and be compensated for what you are worth. I do strongly believe we were (are) the best of the best - globally! Hoping our paths cross once again! God Bless. -Belle-
Comment 02/13/14: In the old days IBM to me as an outsider translated to: well dressed, well spoken people executing a good strategy and selling top shelf, well designed products and services with great management and execution. Today IBM means to me: inept and dishonest management engaged in financial engineering, abuse of employees, product lines you don't want to buy because you don't know when it will be dumped by IBM, instability, poor execution on services/consulting etc. and chaos caused by a ill-conceived strategy of catering to the shareholder above the scared customer and the needs of your employee. -WhatIsIBM-
Comment 02/13/14: I haven't received my 2013 PBC results/rating either, and was wondering what is going on with that. Curious. -NoPBC-
Comment 02/13/14: The carnage in India is proof that multinational (especially US based) corporations will brutally do what is best for them and Wall Street. They will use India while India is cheap and then abandon it and move on to something cheaper - Africa is likely the nest exploitation target. Hence, it is important you also do what is best for you. This means slaving away for more than 40 hours is ill advised. PBCs and utilization ratings are designed to extract all your paid vacation time back to IBM. To hit the utilization that is required of you, you would have to work 44 hours or more. IBM would have gained back your paid vacation time. In the end, when you are old, IBM will have separated from you but the same will be said for your neglected family and life. PBC is a fraud that is used to discard you when needed or to make you needlessly work harder like the galley slaves on a Ben Hur Roman ship. People, without some form of collective bargaining/union you will just keep playing musical chairs and be abused by companies run by shareholders and crooked management - like IBM. Make sure to encourage others that will be staying to join the Alliance. Anyone try complaining to Buffet? Where is that much ballyhooed and supposed mid-western ethic, character and honesty when we need it? Also make a big stink of it on the blogs like below:
Comment 02/13/14: More excitement in STG Bangalore. Para medics and ambulance showed up in stg facility at noon today, and a senior manager who oversaw firing in SRDC group was whisked away in a wheelchair with a broken back according to some eyewitnesses. The cause in not known, another manager said it was an accident and got nothing to do with firing. The RAs for SSE and EDA teams were temporarily put on hold, causing stress to the employees of those groups whose fate is not yet know -anon-
Comment 02/13/14: @-*Glad_to_be_Gone_too*- Really? Google has so many ex-IBMrs ranging from ex VP's down - One is their director of Research. They almost have an entire division of former IBM folk. Microsoft too including one that is a MS Fellow. Lets not forget David Ferrucci, the IBM Fellow that first conceived WATSON and lead the team to the Jeopardy win was FIRED, written out of its history by IBM - now works for a Hedge fund. -Brain Drain-
Comment 02/12/14: I left IBM on my own a while while ago. I finally got fed up of people with no real interest in my career being in charge of it and took control back from them. I have to say that I have not been this happy for a looooong time. What's really sad is that it has come to this. When I joined IBM through an acquisition I thought it was a great career move with fantastic opportunities. Instead it became a millstone. I don't regret my time there, wonderful and talented people, some great products but overall it was a soul sucking experience that I am happy to have put an end to. It's sad but IBM has become a company run by accountants and accountants have little interest in real technological innovation. Overall I am sure IBM will survive in some form but I suspect that eventually it will become just another also ran in the technological race. -glad-to-be-gone-
Comment 02/12/14: I was RA'd yesterday at IBM STG Bangalore, it was a ruthless meeting with manager and HR citing reasons which I could have debated for hours for their misdoing , as you are aware bosses are "always right" .. Gave 2 hours time to leave and laptop was seized.The treatment was gruesome and inhuman and I think IBM has trained the managers very well to take these action. To quote some examples of inhumaness , there is an employee who is on honeymoon unaware what is in store for him when he returns as he is on the hit list. -EX- Employee STG Bangalore-
Comment 02/12/14:
1. IBM Australia is changing disability payments from "to age 65" to "5 years maximum"
2. IBM Australia is changing redundancy entitlements to 1 week per year of service.
3. Reviews in progress to get rid of yet more people -anon-

Comment 02/12/14: Some advice for those of you still with your heads in the sand. My company has hired ex-IBMers in the past and it was a disaster. Of the 8 or so individuals in 4 years at the company I work for, all of them were either fired or had resigned. The Director of my company had even told me the HR department will not even consider candidates with an IBM background. You all chose not to unionize. Now, IBM's name is going down the toilet and when you are finally RA'd, you will find it tough to find a job as some employers view your tenure with IBM as a negative and not positive. Best of luck to you all. I am feeling even more blessed I was let go in 09' before more damage was done as is being done to you all now. I'll be making my donation to Alliance very shortly so the remaining sheep can continue to check this web site. You all need this important avenue of information. Thank you, Alliance. -*Glad_to_be_Gone_too*-
Comment 02/12/14: Re: Kavanaugh and Adkins: if you knew the IBM India firings were going to happen yesterday you should be ashamed of yourselves for selling IBM stock! That sounds suspiciously like insider trading to me. Is there any reason the executives are not pursued and prosecuted for insider trading? -july2013er-
Comment 02/12/14: Am I the only one to sense that the IBM business model has failed? The cheap labor approach has failed and that was the crux of their plan. I suspect the board of directors will have to take drastic action soon. -Dave-
Comment 02/12/14: Worried at IBM please STOP ,This is the biggest statement that worries me when I work in IBM ..( I work hundreds of hours of unpaid overtime and yet, I don't see a raise nor a bonus. )I work what it says on my contract 37h no more no less I have seen many pay offs etc many tupes .....please please please for your own sanity please do not work any more hours that your contracted to do please work fiat hours as they call it you not thought off any different to the ones who work over and above their hours give the time back to your Family -It's all a bluff-
Comment 02/12/14: Layoffs has started in Brazil. Based on the rumors,the target is over 1.500 resources. Good luck all. -IBMBR-
Comment 02/12/14: -snowed-in- Which division? IBM regulars or contractors? -curious-
Comment 02/12/14: Kavanaugh and Adkins: if you knew the IBM India firings were going to happen yesterday you should be ashamed of yourselves for selling IBM stock! -anonymous-
Comment 02/12/14: Reuters: IBM's Rometty meeting with Chinese officials to"restore trust" - 2:40 PM
Reuters reports IBM (IBM +0.3%) CEO Ginni Rometty is traveling to Beijing to meet with government officials in an effort to "restore trust with Chinese regulators and reverse slumping sales." Like many U.S. enterprise IT peers, IBM's sales to the Middle Kingdom (and more broadly, to the Asia-Pac region) have nosedived; they dropped 23% Y/Y in Q4. All signs suggest the NSA spying uproar is a major culprit. Also hurting IBM in China: Its sales within the country disproportionately depend on a hardware business that saw an eye-popping 26% Y/Y global revenue drop in Q4. Big Blue recently partnered with data center owner 21Vianet (VNET +1.5%) to begin offering cloud infrastructure services within China.
Comment 02/12/14: I'm in Tech Sales for STG in the US, and I still haven't received a PBC review for 2013. What's up with that? Has anyone else not been given a 2013 assessment yet? -Anonymous-
Comment 02/12/14: IBM stock price is up today. Just chop off intellectual cost and destroy lives is all it takes. Enjoy your fat greed Ginni. Cash out some more stock now. It will not be long before you find out you are no leader and can't afford clothes to hide behind anymore. No threat here: it is reality. I reckon you will not be making any trip to IBM India anytime soon either. -PigsCanFly-
Comment 02/12/14: Thought I would share since I know IBM management reads these comments. If you don't unionize and fight back then your only other option is to leave because you will eventually be fired. I went to another company and we have watched the senseless slaughter of good people by these endless firings, particularly in IBM hardware, with keen interest. You see, we have IBM equipment installed but since they have made it very clear they want out of the hardware business, we have decided for the good of our own company that we will help them get out of the hardware business even quicker. Which is why we are replacing IBM blades and Power machines with DELL blades, IBM DS8* storage units with EMC symmetrix, and IBM tape libraries with HP everstor. We can no longer bet the company on IBM's dismal long term prospects. Many of our business partners are doing the same thing. As for their services, mobile, cloud and data analytics, NO THANKS! You can keep your Watson and go play some more jeopardy. -misty-
Comment 02/12/14: Discussion of IBM India RA on Hacker News: -anon-
Comment 02/12/14: RA has started in STG Pune. Though the numbers are very high& affects all the levels, around 20 employees are asked to leave as of 02/12. Action is expected to continue till friday. The severance package is same as reported earlier. All this because of idiotic & senseless actions of higher management who neither understand the market nor have any vision. What happened to that IBM ISL which I joined 10 years back? -ShameOnIBMIndia-
Comment 02/12/14: Similar program in Germany as in Netherlands. About 400 people, mostly senior staff, from STG will be trageted. Including System p&z development. So much for all the praise that Schroeter did shed on the mainframe ... R&D budget is definitely to precious to be spent on breathing new life into this dinosaur. -anon-
Comment 02/12/14: To those unfortunate employees who have been mistreated and let go unceremoniously. .whether in Netherlands or Australia India or US...pls share this union site link with local and national media, local politicians, social media. Let IBM know how not to treat decent human beings. Tell your stories on national TV. Hit where it hurts. -mediakill-
Comment 02/12/14: I have seen it close quarters how IBM is working interms of pbc. Basically for firing they are using all these nasty poltics. What general employee suffers, How many mangers got layoff from this..unless and until if ibm doesnt get rid of brainless people, these type unethical things are bound to happen. There is no policy and no BCG is there. IBM Fired me last August because of their illegal work. I have raiased the issues of some serious BCG violation against top mangers. The issue was that they forced me to work under a different person id in the health care system which is completly illegal and unethical under BCG and is also a client violation. It is a serious issue which I had raised against top mangers. Because of that they had given me rating 3 and throw them out. I did not raise these things to client because fearing for my career. My question is, if ibm is firing resoiurces how many are ibm mangers? They are simply doing nothing and taking salary. IBM india is not a hub for revenue, its a hub for nasty politics and brainless people. All projects are going out from IBM India because of incompetent and inefficency of mangers. The days are very near when all projects will go away from ibm. -unknown from india-
Comment 02/12/14: I'm hardly surprised by IBM's selling off business units representing things that are hard to do. My PBC 3 rating in January of 2013 was a farce of Romettian proportions, a stunning demonstration of IBM's inability to recognize and leverage skill sets conducive to innovation and adaptability. Despite having far exceeded my business commitments, I was charged with being "distracted". Well, my"distractions" consisted of leveraging my software development skills to automate creation and testing of technical information deliverables, as well as automatically monitoring search engine rankings, and picking up additional skills to that end. Mostly on my own time, mind you, which is why I still managed to far exceed my business commitments. Had that happened in 2013 instead of 2012, it might have been called "Think 40". Instead, it was called "being distracted". Coworkers without such skills, or who didn't expand the scope of their skills in ways that could amplify their contributions were retained. Given that microcosmic snafu, it makes sense that IBM can't compete with companies that value "skilling outside the box", so to speak. IBM will cling to its obedient servants who are careful to not stray too far from doing things the same old IBM ways to the very end, which is clearly fast approaching - at least in ecosystems where innovation truly matters, and where the market is no longer fooled by abstract mumbo jumbo like "creating a smarter planet". The proof is in the pudding, and IBM's pudding is now no more than powder and water. Also, my condolences to Indian IBMers (well, *former* IBMers) who are now experiencing IBM's callous indifference. Seems like just yesterday (it was 4 years ago, actually) that my career shifted from software development to being shuffled between organizations that didn't really want me after my software development project was moved to India. Apparently it's your turn to be seen more as a commodity than a creative human being. -skills-be-damned-
Comment 02/12/14: There are many contractors working in System x. What is our fate? Am I right to assume that IBM doesn't include us in the number of people expected to move to Lenovo? -StormyWeather-
Comment 02/12/14: Workforce rebalancing has been announced in IBM Netherlands. About 240 people will be invited (project is described as manager induced voluntary leave), mainly from GTS and GIESS. Selection criteria among others: 1) Over 54 years old, 2) Under 40 and PBC 2 or worse for years in a row 3) Band 5 and below 4) Too many years of poor performance 4) Role has become redundant. Managers will approach employees, all to be completed by April 1. -OnceProud-
Comment 02/12/14: IBM STG India Bangalore division of POWER hardware and firmware is affected. About 50 RA'd today alone. More to come in next 2 days. -unknown-
Comment 02/12/14: PBC for 2014 coming soon --- Hi All, we've just received an email from HR telling us that we should get prepared for 2014 PBC. Funny! Lets challenge management this year with regards to "why should I make PBC ... there is no money involved any more!". For me - given the actual situation - PBC is senseless. Cheers. -oliverro-
Comment 02/11/14: A few people are being walked out in fishkill too. -snowed-in-
Comment 02/11/14: STG INDIA operation has started and people with 12+ years with POWER Firmware not spared ... Operation still in progress and numbers are huge and likely to touch 15% in PFD alone. -ANON-
Comment 02/11/14: Clearly, the inept IBM Senior Executive Team, without a clue, is gutting the company to save their own sorry selves. This is only a start, this will get worse up to and beyond Roadkill 2015. For anybody who is left, either unionize and fight this crap or it's over. Don't let these thieves steal your lives. -IBM Doomed-
Comment 02/11/14: The age of the EPS scam is over.
Comment 02/11/14: To Something's Rotten and its Stench is Getting Worse- I agree with everything you say, EXCEPT your second sentence.
"This is the compensation that Ginni said she and her reports would forgo in her "2014 Kickoff Message For All IBMers" presentation."
She did NOT say, that the Executives would give up their "Non Equity Compensation" which I know is $$cash.
NO, she said "BONUS". Column D is titled Bonus. The only way we will know who is right/wrong is by reading the next Proxy Statement due out in a month or so and reading the entries in the respective columns. Did anyone ever wonder why a Column (D) with $0 has remained in the statement for so long? The Exec BONUS program was discontinued several years ago. IF I WERE THEM, I would play the BONUS vs. Non Equity Compensation trump card this year. -Proxy Reader-
Alliance reply: How about the IBM workers? If you were them what strategy would you "play" as a trump card that helps them change the way IBM treats its employees in the workplace? Alliance@IBM has some suggestions; but we'd like to hear yours. Please elaborate.

Comment 02/11/14: To all IBMers in India: I feel bad to hear about your layoffs. I was RA'ed by IBM after 29 years of service. IBM destroyed my home town of Endicott NY with massive layoffs in the late 80s early 90s for nothing more than executive greed, The only thing that will stop this greed is a union. -ANA-
Comment 02/11/14: -BlindSidedinRTP- I returned from an STD and was notified of RA before a cup of coffee. The RA was finalized by my IBM Director. I also lost all my FHA. He never even acknowledged me as being a Quarter Century Club inductee. Basically I didn't exist in this Director's eyes anymore. Found out this IBM Director retired/quit IBM in December after at least 30 years and being at least 55 yrs. old (so he got his FHA and full pension) and in January became a President of a elderHealthcare company... Heaven help those folks being cared for there. I bet the care staff splits pills to save money to maximize profits. -STD'd&RA'ed-
Comment 02/11/14: Shame on you IBM management for inhumane treatment with India job cuts! You treated Indians like resource widgets. These people are human beings. Ever hear of RESPECT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL? Ever realize humans have dignity? Can't say IBM upper management is even close to being human anymore. You management are so far from nirvana and hell is warming up to you. -Solidarity4IBMIndia-
Alliance reply: We understand your anger and frustration. We are sorry for your job loss and how you have been used and abused by IBM.
IBM continues to seek cheaper and cheaper labor costs, without regard for its own employees. This is the real nature of IBM and all global corporations today. Alliance@IBM has been advocating for employees to join together and demand changes in their workplace, here in the US.
A collectively bargained contract that binds IBM and a union to agreement on the details of their service to IBM with wages, salaries and benefits that represent respect for the individual, the workers as a group, and even IBM's company are what Alliance@IBM has also advocated for US IBM workers since 1999. India's labor laws and business laws may differ from the US.
If you have a specific understanding of India's labor laws and workers rights within the workplace, please share them here.
Alliance@IBM is also part of the IBM Global Union Alliance. We are working toward, and hope that IBM workers can be united throughout the world and someday see the return of respect for IBM workers, no matter where they are in the world.

Comment 02/11/14: @RTPBased, I would not be surprised to see STG cut by 65%. x86 is as good as gone. Power is an overpriced architecture that can no longer compete on a cost-to-performance ratio. Mainframe is a behemoth that will trudge along, but at what price. Storage will struggle but survive simply because IBM thinks it can play in the Cloud business (good luck IBM). STG layoffs will just be the start in a week or so. There will be another massive layoff in the 3rd or 4th quarter as programs complete. The best thing in the world happened to x86 in being sold. The only question there is how long can anyone stay after 24 months. -Anonymous-
Comment 02/11/14: IBM Ends Chip Business Buyout Search, Seeks Partner

Comment 02/11/14: I heard from someone who is close to many senior VPs that STG is going to be cut by 65%. Seems extreme but you never know... -RTPBased-
Comment 02/11/14: IBM employees caught tampering with Wikipedia -Anon-
Comment 02/11/14: IBM STG INDIA is doing RA and it is very deep and numbers are huge.. -ANON-
Comment 02/11/14: IBM today had a massive layoff in STG bangalore more than 40% staff was let go off in a single day. Be it PBC 1 or 2 doesnot matter you are just asked to leave IBM premises by immediate effect. I fail to understand how joB cut will help management to achieve 20 EPS. The upper executives lack vision and clarity to restructure business process. Good bye to ibm hopefully will be in better place than ibm. -RA_STG_Bangalore-
Comment 02/11/14: Bye-Bye STG - "Lenovo's IBM ties may pave way for enterprise storage acquisition" -Toasted in Tucson-