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IBM pollution settlement talks fail

Attorneys plan to file suit against company in January

By Tom Wilber
Press & Sun-Bulletin
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ENDICOTT -- Negotiations to settle more than $100 million in health and property claims related to pollution from the former IBM factory have failed, leaving attorneys representing nearly 1,000 area clients planning to file a lawsuit against the company in January.

IBM's offer of $3 million to settle all claims, with a release from further action, fell well short of expectations, according to a letter to clients dated Nov. 27 from Levene Gouldin & Thompson, a Vestal law firm.

The plaintiffs will press forward with litigation "based on these very disappointing developments, especially in light of the more than three years we had spent meeting with IBM in what we always assumed was good faith bargaining," the letter states.

A group of lawyers representing the plaintiffs are scheduled to meet in Philadelphia today to plan the next step.

The claims stem from a subterranean plume of trichloroethylene (TCE) found in 2003 to be creating vapors wafting into homes and buildings near the plant on North Street. Exposure to the chemical is linked to illnesses ranging from cancer to brain damage, but the amount posing calculable risks is debatable.

The state Department of Health has documented a significant elevation of certain cancers and birth defects in areas affected by pollution south and southwest of the plant. Health officials have been unable to pinpoint a cause for the illnesses.

Lawyers representing plaintiffs began talks with IBM in 2004 with the expectation of reaching a settlement.

According to the Nov. 27 letter, IBM's $3 million offer did not include personal injury claims, which IBM believes are without merit. But the offer would require a provision that would release the company from those claims, anyway.

"We're disappointed," said Stephen G. Schwarz, a lawyer with the Rochester firm of Faraci & Lange, part of the legal team. "We are surprised it went as long as it did," considering the sides were never close to an agreement.

IBM's final offer was given after changes in the company's management created "a new attitude ... concerning claims arising from chemical contamination, and the type of litigation through which contamination claims are asserted and resolved," according to the letter. It was signed by attorney Philip Johnson, writing on behalf of a legal team including five firms from New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

IBM representatives could not be reached Wednesday night. In the past, the company has declined to comment on litigation as a matter of policy.

While stakeholders in the case will have to wait for another chapter to unfold in the courtroom, a process that could take months or years, a trial would likely uncover new information about the origin and history of the pollution that might never come to light in a settlement.

Despite extracting more than 70,000 gallons of TCE and other solvents from the ground -- the total amount spilled remains unknown as cleanup operations continue around the clock -- IBM representatives have said they have no records of a TCE spill.

"Once litigations begins, we will have the tools to obtain information that we don't have now about what IBM knew and when," Schwarz said.

IBM may agree to a settlement favorable to plaintiffs after a trial date is set, according to the letter from Johnson.

"We still genuinely believe that, although IBM has not negotiated seriously yet, the company's approach may change," it stated.

Regardless, Schwarz said, attorneys for the plaintiffs are ready to see through a long, expensive trial against a company with deep pockets and extensive brain trust.

"It's always tough going against a large corporation," he said. "We have a large number of very skilled attorneys and a large number of law firms vested in it."

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  You seem to think that it's not harmful!!!! Let's face it IBM ruined the area, along with other areas. No record of spills, because it was dumped with no regard to employees, or area residents.

Yes cancer can be caused by other sources, but look at the stats for Endicott, & Endwell. These are off the charts!!! Further investigation will prove IBM was a major player in this neglect to its' residents, and I'm sure it will uncover payoffs to officials who turned their heads, while IBM dumped!!~

Let's pull bank accounts, as we uncover the periods in time which the dumping took place, just a few decades!!! I believe recently, Bush took a payoff to veto Hinchey's study on IBM workers.

It will be nice to see this all public, as the litagation takes place. In which it will set a benchmark, that other areas will benefit from. Obviously, you don't know anyone who received a "death sentence" at the hands of IBM, nor did you see your house diminish in value due to the devistation of big blue. Now who is money hungery????

Posted by: SixxGunnar on Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:53 pm

 
  Yes there is a Hell, Weekender - some people call it New Jersey - wasn't that where IBM hauled to? Wink Wink

Posted by: Pepe Ed on Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:49 pm

 
  If there is a HELL, it is filling up fast!

Posted by: Weekender on Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:33 pm

 
  Glenn,
Come now! You don't seriously believe that IBM Endicott did NOTHING wrong over the 40 year period that TCE and other chemicals were used in their processes, do you? (i.e. over 80,000 gallons of chemicals including TCE that have been removed from the ground around their property... IBM says they never spilled those chemicals!!!)
You don't seriously believe that personal life habits are what caused ALL the health problems that the Endicott residents and workers have experienced, do you? You don't seriously believe that IBM made sure that ALL procedures and practices were enforced and ALL employees were guilty of NOT following those rules and procedures, do you?

IBM was good to you, weren't they? They never did wrong by you, right?
So that must mean they never did wrong by any other employees, right?

Glenn you need to talk to people from NYSDEC, NYSDOH and NIOSH, because there is so much that you DON"T KNOW about IBM.
"Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding is all you see"

Whitedog

Posted by: Whitedog on Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:33 pm

 
Another corporate polluter - several years ago, the EPA fined Aphenol- Cadre- in Sidney, NY and required them to vent the houses in the neighborhood from the basement, up the outside of the house, and over the roof - and then came the flood of 2006 which destroyed that neighborhood ..wonder where all the contaminants went to? - Good luck trying to find out - I have sent inquires to: EPA, American Red Cross, ALL politicians who "should" have some kind of vested interest (they will come up for reelection??) - NO ANSWER

Posted by: Pepe Ed on Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:37 am

As anyone can see, this continues to be a money grab. Good luck, if you enjoy paying lawyers.

Here are the interesting quotes from the article:

"Once litigations begins, we will have the tools to obtain information that we don't have now about what IBM knew and when," Schwarz said.

"Regardless, Schwarz said, attorneys for the plaintiffs are ready to see through a long, expensive trial against a company with deep pockets and extensive brain trust."

Considering the record to date of the large number of hungry law firms involved for the plaintiffs and the plantiffs as 'stakeholders', ie people hoping to make a bundle from IBM, I can see why IBM offered what they consider a reasonable settlement.

I don't think that these lawyers will get any more information to work with. I love it when they talk about a company as if it has records on everything that happened 30 years ago but won't tell. And IBM has equally good lawyers and scientists and engineers,STUDYING WHAT THEY KNOW FROM THEIR OWN RECORDS, who have obviously been on board in the decision to offer $3 million.

It seems that is not enough for the plaintiffs' lawyers. It can't justify the huge bills they have already delivered to their clients so the 'attorneys for the plaintiffs are ready to see through a long,expensive trial..." and gouge the plaintiffs for even larger fees.

I'm sure everyone will stay 'on board' hoping to get the big windfall. That's how the legal system works, isn't it? Sort of like gambling.

The only problem is IBM probably researched their legal position very,very carefully and is on firm ground about its handling of TCE being in accordance with all federal and state guidelines. Also personal litigants will have to prove that any diseases they claim they got couldn't be from any other ' carcinogenic chemical sources' in the area which we know there were a lot of. Even their barbeques are carcinogenic sources! I don't think even a whole gang of lawyers can help with that.

Now that the 'free to the stakeholders', $3.5 million dollar federal government study has moved to the back burner, I guess they have to make statements to the press to keep up public awareness.

Oh, by the way, what is the total of the plaintiffs' legal fees to date? Is it more than $3 million? I wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: glenn guhman on Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:20 am

Look people, you are dealing with IBM!! They (for the most part) moved out of this area. I wonder why? Must have been the economic factors or maybe it was the pollution they caused? Screw the money! If you value your lives just get far away from Endicott and the pollution. What good is the money if you can't spend it or if you need to spend it on health care dealing with pollution caused illnesses?

Posted by: relief on Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:53 am

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